Why don't blacks still celebrate Kwanzaa these days?

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If you really wanna talk "cultural pride" then some of us are going to have to face hard truths. Like for instance...70% of Blacks in America have a "niger-kordofanian" background. Thats a fact.

but no one wants to embrace this

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Instead we focus on what the whiteman is focused on...Egypt.

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Oh how we love talking about Egypt aka Kemet....we tip ride Isis and Horus. We see Tupac with his mom in the form of Nefertiti tatted on his body. U see Black Americans rocking "the ankh' like its regular jewlery. We have conversations about how the building of the pyramids is such a mystery. Oh how we love saying Egypt was Black. We stuck on Egypt. But most Black Americans arent rooted in the upper eastern part of Africa. And when slavery came...Egypt was occupied by Muslims so whats with all this Egypt dikk riding? Why we dont talk about Angola ot Tanzania?


You know what u dont hear? You dont hear Blacks in America talking about investing in real estate in Mozambique even tho Real Estate is high quality over there this very second. Ask a Black person what they think of the king of Swaziland having crowds of virgins from all over gathering around with t*ts hanging out, adult women and teens all trying to win his favor to be his wife...Most these Black folks dont know shyt about that. If the whiteman aint focused on it...neither are we. Whiteman was focused on South Africa in the late 80's/early 90's now all of a sudden the conscuous community is focused on South Africa. And of course who soon followed? The conscious rappers of the time....KRS, Public Enemy...oh how they were name dropping South Africa when the whiteman had his eyes on it.....who in hip hop is screaming south Africa now?



Do u wanna have a real conversation where we aint talking just for daps? Cuz I'm about to go there...

You speak of our lack of cultural pride......Well lets be realistic .......we dont really wanna say that this is us.....



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Admit it...u know Blacks dont wanna embrace this....We act like we do openly.... we dont say it out loud but Blacks are shamed of having this as our history.....Why? Because its rooted in the false impression that the whiteman actually civilized us from being primitive and gave us a better life in America taking us out of Africa by force.

Again majority of Blacks in America have a "niger-kordofanian" background....But we'll embrace Egypt before we embrace what we really are. We say "well Egypt is in Africa so thats us" but technically, according to the bloodline, it aint us....we dont wanna embrace that "bushmen" image. Keep it a buck. I'm half Honduran so I have no choice but to embrace it but my fellow Black Americans subconsciously aint embracing it.


U wanna talk cultural pride? Da Lench Mob and X Clan at one point tried to push the "bushman" image on the youth but it never caught on....Even MJ in the beginning of the "Black or White" video was pushing the "bushmen" image on us.......Instead we embraced being "Americanized" baseball hats, shirts with name brand logos and expensive sneakers. As Black Americans we embraced Fubu and Rockawear. Jordans and any other Black athlete with a shoe. The snowman T shirst was negative but it was a "hood thing" that spoke to Black folks in the ghetto. And then there is Jazz, Rock N Roll, R&B and Hip Hop. Yes our ancestrial culture was taken from us but in the midst of that it created The Black American...We have our own culture. And IMO I say its a culture that is still developing.


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Mostly Blacks with money do from what I notice. Especially Middle Class Blacks who are "conscious."

If you really wanna talk "cultural pride" then some of us are going to have to face hard truths. Like for instance...70% of Blacks in America have a "niger-kordofanian" background. Thats a fact.

but no one wants to embrace this

khoisan2.jpg




Instead we focus on what the whiteman is focused on...Egypt.

egyptian-king-and-queen-onyx-truth.jpg



Oh how we love talking about Egypt aka Kemet....we tip ride Isis and Horus. We see Tupac with his mom in the form of Nefertiti tatted on his body. U see Black Americans rocking "the ankh' like its regular jewlery. We have conversations about how the building of the pyramids is such a mystery. Oh how we love saying Egypt was Black. We stuck on Egypt. But most Black Americans arent rooted in the upper eastern part of Africa. And when slavery came...Egypt was occupied by Muslims so whats with all this Egypt dikk riding? Why we dont talk about Angola ot Tanzania?


You know what u dont hear? You dont hear Blacks in America talking about investing in real estate in Mozambique even tho Real Estate is high quality over there this very second. Ask a Black person what they think of the king of Swaziland having crowds of virgins from all over gathering around with t*ts hanging out, adult women and teens all trying to win his favor to be his wife...Most these Black folks dont know shyt about that. If the whiteman aint focused on it...neither are we. Whiteman was focused on South Africa in the late 80's/early 90's now all of a sudden the conscuous community is focused on South Africa. And of course who soon followed? The conscious rappers of the time....KRS, Public Enemy...oh how they were name dropping South Africa when the whiteman had his eyes on it.....who in hip hop is screaming south Africa now?



Do u wanna have a real conversation where we aint talking just for daps? Cuz I'm about to go there...

You speak of our lack of cultural pride......Well lets be realistic .......we dont really wanna say that this is us.....



kingsley1d.jpg

ambua-lodge.jpg

ewe-v-1.jpg


Admit it...u know Blacks dont wanna embrace this....We act like we do openly.... we dont say it out loud but Blacks are shamed of having this as our history.....Why? Because its rooted in the false impression that the whiteman actually civilized us from being primitive and gave us a better life in America taking us out of Africa by force.

Again majority of Blacks in America have a "niger-kordofanian" background....But we'll embrace Egypt before we embrace what we really are. We say "well Egypt is in Africa so thats us" but technically, according to the bloodline, it aint us....we dont wanna embrace that "bushmen" image. Keep it a buck. I'm half Honduran so I have no choice but to embrace it but my fellow Black Americans subconsciously aint embracing it.


U wanna talk cultural pride? Da Lench Mob and X Clan at one point tried to push the "bushman" image on the youth but it never caught on....Even MJ in the beginning of the "Black or White" video was pushing the "bushmen" image on us.......Instead we embraced being "Americanized" baseball hats, shirts with name brand logos and expensive sneakers. As Black Americans we embraced Fubu and Rockawear. Jordans and any other Black athlete with a shoe. The snowman T shirst was negative but it was a "hood thing" that spoke to Black folks in the ghetto. And then there is Jazz, Rock N Roll, R&B and Hip Hop. Yes our ancestrial culture was taken from us but in the midst of that it created The Black American...We have our own culture. And IMO I say its a culture that is still developing.


Yet the first people in the pic were NOT Niger-Congo people but San/Khoisan people who AAs/Diasporan Black DONT descend from. Niger-Congo people arent even monolithic to begin. So try researching before trying to come off edgy.Funny you think NC people only represent the people in the images ypu posted when they were this...
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^^^People spoke the same language where Kwanzaa comes from.

This...
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This...
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This...
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This...
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The other images you posted were a minority in Africa who MOSTLY lived in the rural areas. The fact you believe Diasproan blacks largely descend from bushmen shows your ignorance. Our ancestors WERE NOT Hunter-Gatherers like Bushmen largely are today but were West-Central agriculturalist. If you're gonna try and be edgy then actually do research. And no the majority of Blacks in the new world especially AAs dont obsess over Egypt like you claim.
 

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Not going to call anyone I don’t know for a fact is a rat a rat but a lot of people who were involved in the movement back in the day say Karenga was a agent and that his whole background was fabricated.

Judge Joe Brown said when he first met him he was a mulatto looking dude with blonde hair, blue eyes and a funny accent. The second time he saw him he was a bald dude with shades covering his eyes and a southern accent.
 
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If you really wanna talk "cultural pride" then some of us are going to have to face hard truths. Like for instance...70% of Blacks in America have a "niger-kordofanian" background. Thats a fact.

but no one wants to embrace this

khoisan2.jpg




Instead we focus on what the whiteman is focused on...Egypt.

egyptian-king-and-queen-onyx-truth.jpg



Oh how we love talking about Egypt aka Kemet....we tip ride Isis and Horus. We see Tupac with his mom in the form of Nefertiti tatted on his body. U see Black Americans rocking "the ankh' like its regular jewlery. We have conversations about how the building of the pyramids is such a mystery. Oh how we love saying Egypt was Black. We stuck on Egypt. But most Black Americans arent rooted in the upper eastern part of Africa. And when slavery came...Egypt was occupied by Muslims so whats with all this Egypt dikk riding? Why we dont talk about Angola ot Tanzania?


You know what u dont hear? You dont hear Blacks in America talking about investing in real estate in Mozambique even tho Real Estate is high quality over there this very second. Ask a Black person what they think of the king of Swaziland having crowds of virgins from all over gathering around with t*ts hanging out, adult women and teens all trying to win his favor to be his wife...Most these Black folks dont know shyt about that. If the whiteman aint focused on it...neither are we. Whiteman was focused on South Africa in the late 80's/early 90's now all of a sudden the conscuous community is focused on South Africa. And of course who soon followed? The conscious rappers of the time....KRS, Public Enemy...oh how they were name dropping South Africa when the whiteman had his eyes on it.....who in hip hop is screaming south Africa now?



Do u wanna have a real conversation where we aint talking just for daps? Cuz I'm about to go there...

You speak of our lack of cultural pride......Well lets be realistic .......we dont really wanna say that this is us.....



kingsley1d.jpg

ambua-lodge.jpg

ewe-v-1.jpg


Admit it...u know Blacks dont wanna embrace this....We act like we do openly.... we dont say it out loud but Blacks are shamed of having this as our history.....Why? Because its rooted in the false impression that the whiteman actually civilized us from being primitive and gave us a better life in America taking us out of Africa by force.

Again majority of Blacks in America have a "niger-kordofanian" background....But we'll embrace Egypt before we embrace what we really are. We say "well Egypt is in Africa so thats us" but technically, according to the bloodline, it aint us....we dont wanna embrace that "bushmen" image. Keep it a buck. I'm half Honduran so I have no choice but to embrace it but my fellow Black Americans subconsciously aint embracing it.


U wanna talk cultural pride? Da Lench Mob and X Clan at one point tried to push the "bushman" image on the youth but it never caught on....Even MJ in the beginning of the "Black or White" video was pushing the "bushmen" image on us.......Instead we embraced being "Americanized" baseball hats, shirts with name brand logos and expensive sneakers. As Black Americans we embraced Fubu and Rockawear. Jordans and any other Black athlete with a shoe. The snowman T shirst was negative but it was a "hood thing" that spoke to Black folks in the ghetto. And then there is Jazz, Rock N Roll, R&B and Hip Hop. Yes our ancestrial culture was taken from us but in the midst of that it created The Black American...We have our own culture. And IMO I say its a culture that is still developing.



You know there were west African kingdoms during the medieival era while cacs were in caves dying of rat diseases?

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Not going to call anyone I don’t know for a fact is a rat a rat but a lot of people who were involved in the movement back in the day say Karenga was a agent and that his whole background was fabricated.

Judge Joe Brown said when he first met him he was a mulatto looking dude with blonde hair, blue eyes and a funny accent. The second time he saw him he was a bald dude with shades covering his eyes and a southern accent.

 

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Clearly he doesn't like him for a personal reason due to the beef. The Jamaican accent was funny but, That's like saying you met Bunchy Carter in 63 and he was ignorant and only worried about fighting the gladiators then you run into him in 67 and he on his pro black shyt. People change. I still haven't seen anyone post any paperwork. If the second of command of the LA chapter said he wasn't a snitch and there is no paper trail.:yeshrug: The FBI didn't redact the names of spies and informants on there files. The main finger pointing has come from Elaine Brown who's has her own credibility issues within the party.:lolbron:
 
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If you aren't New Afrikan, then it isn't part of your culture per se. The holiday is a cultural derivative of African cultures, created for those of us in the diaspora whose original cultures were forcibly stripped. Nonetheless people of African descent around the world, including in Africa, celebrate the holiday.
Had no idea it was celebrated by continental Africans.

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Had no idea it was celebrated by continental Africans.

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I don't wanna overstate the case, it definitely isn't widely celebrated in Africa (hell, we don't even celebrate it in a widespread way here... smfh), but there are instances of it being celebrated across the continent
 
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the thought and intentions of Kwanza were good but honestly it was corny. Christmas is more festive no matter if now you feel about it if we're gonna keep it real. Not a diss to Kwanza at all.
 

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If maybe they revive an ancient tradition that would be one thing.

Didn't somebody make it up as a direct answer to Christmas for Black people?

Why do we need a Black Christmas? If the real Christmas is somehow bad for us we should just reject it completely, not wrap it in a headscarf.
 
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