Why don't more players pull a Jennings and go overseas for a year?

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Jennings didn't really do much there and Tyler is an american big that doesn't work in euro ball. Mark my works get Tyler the right coaching and if he has motivation and discipline he will be trained to go. Since they only have to go to school for 1 yr it doesn't make any sense but if they change it to like the NFL I could see it happening especially guys like Baz who you know are 1 and done.
 
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And yet Jennings hated his time there and looks the same player he was in HS. I also do wonder if his draft stock fell slightly because of that.

And he was not getting paid consistently.


He wasn't getting paychecks consistently


The worst part about this is that 18 year old American (black) kids have to leave this country to pursue a professional career. That is the biggest crock of shyt ever. Billy Hunter should lose his job over this, let alone the nepotism he practiced.

The only reason the rule exists is to protect owners from investor millions in bad assets (players) they don't have enough film on and the union has the rule to ensure pretty much washed up veterans (Kurt Thomas, and before that Brian Scalebrine) stay in the league an get paid even longer. It guarantees them a roster spot.
 

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And yet Jennings hated his time there and looks the same player he was in HS. I also do wonder if his draft stock fell slightly because of that.

And he was not getting paid consistently.
He wasn't getting paychecks consistently

The worst part about this is that 18 year old American (black) kids have to leave this country to pursue a professional career. That is the biggest crock of shyt ever. Billy Hunter should lose his job over this, let alone the nepotism he practiced.

If he went to college he wouldn't have gotten paid at all...



I agree with your last paragraph though..
 

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The only reason the rule exists is to protect owners from investor millions in bad assets (players) they don't have enough film on and the union has the rule to ensure pretty much washed up veterans (Kurt Thomas, and before that Brian Scalebrine) stay in the league an get paid even longer. It guarantees them a roster spot.

FOH, they are still drafting 19 year old projects. Nerlens Noel aint no where near NBA ready, yet was going to be the number one pick.

Dont believe that owner crap, and the stupid shyt Billy Hunter told you.

If the owners and GMs dont think an 18 year is good enough, then dont draft them. NO one has a gun to their heads.

The truth is 70 percent of these GMs suck at their jobs and need to be spoonfed.


Tell me, what is the difference between drafting Nerlens Noel at 18 vs drafting him at 19 and with a torn ACL he is overcoming?
 

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It depends where you go overseas. Sometimes niccas don't even get paid :manny:
 
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FOH, they are still drafting 19 year old projects. Nerlens Noel aint no where near NBA ready, yet was going to be the number one pick.

Dont believe that owner crap, and the stupid shyt Billy Hunter told you.

If the owners and GMs dont think an 18 year is good enough, then dont draft them. NO one has a gun to their heads.

The truth is 70 percent of these GMs suck at their jobs and need to be spoonfed.


Tell me, what is the difference between drafting Nerlens Noel at 18 vs drafting him at 19 and with a torn ACL he is overcoming?
:mindblown: you really don't understand the concept that most of those players in high school were outright much better than anyone else they played for the most part. In college the competition is obviously much better as well as the scouting and coaching. It's much harder to average 20 in a high level college game than a high school AAU game. More game film to scout the player, more Bball experience.

I don't like the 1 year rule myself, but no owner wants to invest millions in something they really haven't seen play at a level of competition nearer to the NBA.
 

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:mindblown: you really don't understand the concept that most of those players in high school were outright much better than anyone else they played for the most part.
And you really dont understand the same thing is true for college players too, who end up not being worth it in the NBA?

In college the competition is obviously much better as well as the scouting and coaching. It's much harder to average 20 in a high level college game than a high school AAU game. More game film to scout the player, more Bball experience.
dude, you can scout just as well in HS. The problem isnt talent scouting, but instead incompetent GMs.

I don't like the 1 year rule myself, but no owner wants to invest millions in something they really haven't seen play at a level of competition nearer to the NBA.
and yet they do it every year with college players.


David Aldridge wrote this brilliant article last year that was ignored by the mainstream media. He researched every player that was drafted since KG entered the league in 1995, and broke them down in terms of when they entered the NBA and their success in the league.

Altruism far down on list of motives for NBA's age limit | NBA.com


He came to the conclusion that there is no greater frequency of flops or busts with HS kids vs any other age group.
 

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Does college bball develop you more in one year than a euro team? Real question, some people just shouldn't be looking to get into the pros after that one year wait period...I don't see the issue with them playing overseas unless it does actually hurt their draft prospects, but so could one or two meh years in college
 

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straight outta high school to living somewhere completely different from your upbringing, with new language and all that gotta be tough as opposed to playing in college

This will totally depend on the individual, some people, regardless of upbringing, love and embrace opportunities like that at any age. Plus they're going to developed countries, not fukking Cambodia.
 

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Does college bball develop you more in one year than a euro team? Real question, some people just shouldn't be looking to get into the pros after that one year wait period...I don't see the issue with them playing overseas unless it does actually hurt their draft prospects, but so could one or two meh years in college

I dont think either really does, but thats just my opinion. Just like I dont know if being an 18 year old in the NBA hurts development. There is no evidence for any positive or negative.

My only issue with going overseas to play, outside of the fact that it is bullshyt that 18 year old (black) kids have to go overseas to get paid to play pro basketball, is that the pay is inconsistent.
 

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I've said all along that the NBDL would add to its popularity if they allowed kids to be drafted or play for them right out of college for a year or two.
 

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if the NBA really cared they'd have a 3 year since graduation rule which they dont. And you still would get bust and suprises. How come EUROS can come over but americans cant?

I also think the ball was dropped greatly on the NBADL make the teams 10 man rosters that way better talent is in the NBADL every state with an NBA team has a damn NBADL team. Man fukk it.

The NBADL should be a minor league the player get's drafter out of HS or college if he isn't NBA ready he goes to the NBADL. If he's a 8 yr veteran whose stinking it up send him to the NBADL and so on. No way Hasheem Thabeet shouldn't of spent his first 3 seasons in the NBADL.
 
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