Why don’t these white rappers do numbers like Em?

Joined
Jan 19, 2017
Messages
36,921
Reputation
174
Daps
90,641
A lot of white rappers sell well (G Eazy, NF, Mac Miller before his death, etc) but taking that next step to superstardom is hard and requires a lot of help. You need more than a black cosign from major artists, you need hits...and a lot of white rappers have struggled with that. You also need a diverse group of white people backing you. Em had white backpackers, wiggers, casual fans, young kids, frat boys, etc all in his corner. Post Malone has all types of rock fans and casual fans supporting him. Flip side G Eazy never had all of those bases of white support, nor does NF.

Post Malone is truly the new Em because he found a way to repackage something for white consumption. Just as Em's style of rap was around for years before he took it to the white masses, Post Malone is simply taking Future/Thug/etc melodies and adding just enough musicality to bring in the "I don't listen to rap music but I like [insert white person]" types. These are people who would listen to a Future song and call it the worst thing they've ever heard...yet think Post Malone is a genius. That's the level you gotta reach for mass success. Once you convince a bunch of white people that you're doing it better than the ******s, you've truly made it.

I’m laughing because the last sentence sounds like a Chris Rock joke
 

Playaz Eyez

Veteran
Joined
Sep 2, 2015
Messages
48,079
Reputation
8,209
Daps
139,539
Eminem was a god damn animal from
98-01. Slim Shady era em is some of my favorite music. Still gets burn. Role Model is better then anything any of those other dudes have . Although G Eazy is nice as fukk .He's the best white rapper out now

I was about to dap you til that bolded part lmaooo
 

Art Barr

INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
69,418
Reputation
14,031
Daps
96,461
Reppin
CHICAGO
Eminem came out when the only big white rapper was vanilla ice, besides a few there were NO white rappers
He was cosigned by Dre, Dre already built up a repertoire with Death Row, Snoop and N.W.A. he was cold and people were waiting what he would do next, without Em he wouldn't have lasted into the new millineum.
When came out with the cosign, catchy single and his lyrical content and the fact he was white, he became white people's god in hip hop. There are people who hate rap but listen to eminem, 11/10 they are white.
Eminem (despite being overrated or garbarge on this forum) actually has talent, I have yet to see another eminem from any race.




Once again,...
You and i know you re not cognitive when Eminem came out at all.
As you are speaking from a place.
where you easily not in the know.
Stop trying to flodge too.
all because if you were cognitive when EMINEM debuted.
You would know who you talking too.



art barr
 

Cave Savage

Feminist
Joined
Sep 7, 2014
Messages
13,844
Reputation
589
Daps
33,889
Reppin
Women's rights
Also, the novelty of everything that made Eminem successful wore off. White kids that like rap largely listen to the same artists that black kids do.
 

Alvin

Superstar
Joined
Dec 16, 2015
Messages
20,579
Reputation
870
Daps
26,467
Once again,...
You and i know you re not cognitive when Eminem came out at all.
As you are speaking from a place.
where you easily not in the know.
Stop trying to flodge too.
all because if you were cognitive when EMINEM debuted.
You would know who you talking too.



art barr
I really wish I could neg you
 

Greenhornet

A God Among Kings
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
15,279
Reputation
2,711
Daps
26,562
Reppin
Rochester Ny
Because if you're from the hood you wouldnt have listened to eminem at his peak
when he was on LSD mushrooms and Ecstasy. Similar to how Canibus wow'ed everyone when he came onto the scene
technically, Marshall was right up there with him but in a different lane. He had a very acid rap Big L thing going on...
then the background came out, then the Dre shyt... then the first 2 albums were perfect setting

The difference is these guys want to be rappers and Eminem was a rapper. He was extremely underground and gritty
but could still manage to pull off polished pop songs and concepts. Beyond genre or race, the MAIN reason why cats
are garbage
is because not everyone can write songs. Alot of people are just rapping to be rapping and not able to craft
a real song, let alone ... produce and sequence a full length album. The novelty runs thin the past 15 or so years because
you just get nikkas rapping about whatever. Wayne fukked the game up by being so good at free flow lines... now everyone
tries to just hit that stride with free thought rapping. But even he can craft remarkable concepts and cohesive albums. There's a saying
that ties all this together, it goes "Stay in your lane". NF can rap, but besides being white he doesnt bring anything to the table. Similar
to most white rappers, stating that you're white isnt an excuse for notoriety. They get hung up on that being their image instead of thinking
about creating and writing dope shyt. There's a thin line you can walk to be in the zone... Snoop is the zone, Ras Kass is fringe zone because
he doesnt stay in his lane, DMX is the zone... bizzy bone is out of the zone. The difference is, we know Snoop and DMX's ups and down's
and they play into that (Snoop) or it just works even if its bad (DMX) Bizzy alike Joe Budden are respected but one is in the zone and one isnt
Joe writes about the stories we hear, and makes it epic and a picture. Bizzy was in the zone and let the demons surrounding himself turn off
most listeners, instead of using that zone to build off of. DMX is like Bizzy except he rides the zone better, we know he's battling demons so
we tune in. Most white rappers have appeal to the zone but then offer absolutely nothing afterwards.
 

JustCKing

Superstar
Joined
Jun 17, 2012
Messages
25,767
Reputation
4,029
Daps
49,125
Reppin
NULL
Because if you're from the hood you wouldnt have listened to eminem at his peak
when he was on LSD mushrooms and Ecstasy. Similar to how Canibus wow'ed everyone when he came onto the scene
technically, Marshall was right up there with him but in a different lane. He had a very acid rap Big L thing going on...
then the background came out, then the Dre shyt... then the first 2 albums were perfect setting

This isn't exactly true because one of the biggest reasons these other white rappers aren't as successful is because they don't have the hood. Eminem had Dre beats and was signed to Dre. Once we heard him on 2001, it was a wrap. Em had other MC's, credible MC's doing songs with him. He was featured on Soundbombing, Missy's album, Biggie's posthumous album, Jay's classic Blueprint. I remember C-Murder wanting an Em verse.

Eminem was also markedly different from Canibus. Canibus's main topic was telling everyone how good he was and how he was lightyears ahead of everyone else. His ability to write songs wasn't Eminem level.
 
Top