Why don’t these white rappers do numbers like Em?

[Greenhornet]

This isn't exactly true because one of the biggest reasons these other white rappers aren't as successful is because they don't have the hood. Eminem had Dre beats and was signed to Dre. Once we heard him on 2001, it was a wrap. Em had other MC's, credible MC's doing songs with him. He was featured on Soundbombing, Missy's album, Biggie's posthumous album, Jay's classic Blueprint. I remember C-Murder wanting an Em verse.

Eminem was also markedly different from Canibus. Canibus's main topic was telling everyone how good he was and how he was lightyears ahead of everyone else. His ability to write songs wasn't Eminem level.

That was my point too, it just deviated from the 2nd half ... Canibus and Eminem was a perfect example... one could write songs and one failed to. Having the hood I can see what you're saying but I disagree, eminem had extreme buzz before the Dre stuff, it was a combo of that stuff. He was underground and performed with gritty hood acts like the Outsidaz and what not, Thirstin Howl... But when the lid really blew off with Dre and the media , thats when other artists really just wanted him for buzz and attention. It gets muddy because not everyone obviously, but putting him on your project gave you more attention whether you liked him or not. Even though I think 50 can hold his own, he greatly benefited from Eminem's popularity, being attached just grows everything. Like putting him on Dead Wrong, technically fit and was great... but it was more because of the hype to me. Diddy wouldnt have called Eminem for that feature in the last 15 years now. Eminem kind of transcended his own stereotype by being dope immediately, the shock wasnt so much that he was white... it was "how is he stringing this wordplay along this way" Being white kind of came second once that died down a little bit, then they played off that for awhile and the mom and Kim shyt. The hood does not dictate good music or popularity, hardly many people in the hood buy albums or make it out. So I cant really gauge success and credibility based on that, most hood rappers end up being local icons like Bay Area, NOLA, Jersey, Brooklyn etc. I think Eminem dabbled in both on accident, pop later and hood in the beginning but I wouldnt say he was accepted in the hood. I would say he was just out there rapping anywhere at that point and through Detroit had ties and relationships with black people that were genuine, so to him it wasnt being "a white dude here" It was "Eminem is dope, he's about to lay his verse" He was just doing what he did naturally, Take Paul Wall for example.... always been around black people... Texas icon and had set up shop there. He couldnt expand because besides grills and talking about Texas he had nothing to offer. Instead of just rapping like eminem did, Paul wall just talked about what we already knew and it wasnt marketable anymore. Vanilla Ice too, he just rapped about being a bad ass white dude, but never progressed past shyt we already knew. There's only so many times MGK, Kid Rock and whatever can tell you "I'm white and kind of trash but I pop" there's nothing else behind that over and over. Women fail at this too because once you know she's fine ... and she sucks dikk like a pro... they keep making the same songs. That's why Latifah and Mc Lyte were dope.

To be fair and wrap it up, I know circumstance made Dre and Aftermath market more... but Em was hot before that. He would be the same person today as he was back then. His staying power wasnt with the cosign or the street in a real sense. It was because he knew how to write around his own circumstance. None of these people really can write around circumstance. You can list so many emcee's like this ... Mase was a god, but Mase said all that he had to say on the first album. Ras Kass didnt stick with his original stuff and lost because of it. Jin was marketed as a Asian rapper and didnt want to do that, but circumstance could have set him up to be a mega star if he could have written his way into that. Ludacris is a great rapper but doesnt say much in his songs but made that stretch. Alot of people just cant write into that sweet spot or they overshoot it and dive bomb. T.I, Snoop, The Game, etc ... all have weird business but they can play around it and make us tune in anyways. They stick to what we need, not some weird format. Kanye, Eminem, Beyonce, Jay, all change up but just enough to still market you the same thing that they are good at. You can say some Jay-z songs from 1994 and songs from 2019 are similar because he stayed in that lane. Alot of Eminem's stuff sounds the same and doesnt surprise you at all, like the kamikaze album, but he stayed in that lane. If you told me in 2003 he would put out an album like that, it wouldnt have surprised me at all. Joe Budden did similar with Mood Musik, people tuned in to hear him complain and relationship shyt... it just worked. He was smart for riding that zone and mastering it. Eminem is great, situational and zoney it appeals no matter what because he tweaks it just enough for you to want to see whats happening. Kanye for last example, he named his shyt College dropout, Late Registration, Graduation... tried to do Job well done.... None of that shyt on any of those tapes has shyt to do with any of that he's talking about. That was his zone, a misunderstood dude trying to fit in and having second thoughts about life in general to make it. People wanted the 4th album before the 2nd one was even done just based on the story alone. It didnt even matter at that point, he already hit the zone and floated inside of it. Snoop is another great example but I typed too much






em has that balance too which probably fuels him
where he actually gets stale and repeats himself, but then uses that to make better stuff
whether he does that intentionally of not... he's actually quite fringe with his concepts and execution the past 15 years. It would be more genius if he did it on purpose, which he probably does. It's all a fun game for the people that are really great at songwriting.

 

[Art Barr]

Because if you're from the hood you wouldnt have listened to eminem at his peak
when he was on LSD mushrooms and Ecstasy. Similar to how Canibus wow'ed everyone when he came onto the scene
technically, Marshall was right up there with him but in a different lane. He had a very acid rap Big L thing going on...
then the background came out, then the Dre shyt... then the first 2 albums were perfect setting

The difference is these guys want to be rappers and Eminem was a rapper. He was extremely underground and gritty
but could still manage to pull off polished pop songs and concepts. Beyond genre or race, the MAIN reason why cats
are garbage is because not everyone can write songs. Alot of people are just rapping to be rapping and not able to craft
a real song, let alone ... produce and sequence a full length album. The novelty runs thin the past 15 or so years because
you just get nikkas rapping about whatever. Wayne fukked the game up by being so good at free flow lines... now everyone
tries to just hit that stride with free thought rapping. But even he can craft remarkable concepts and cohesive albums. There's a saying
that ties all this together, it goes "Stay in your lane". NF can rap, but besides being white he doesnt bring anything to the table. Similar
to most white rappers, stating that you're white isnt an excuse for notoriety. They get hung up on that being their image instead of thinking
about creating and writing dope shyt. There's a thin line you can walk to be in the zone... Snoop is the zone, Ras Kass is fringe zone because
he doesnt stay in his lane, DMX is the zone... bizzy bone is out of the zone. The difference is, we know Snoop and DMX's ups and down's
and they play into that (Snoop) or it just works even if its bad (DMX) Bizzy alike Joe Budden are respected but one is in the zone and one isnt
Joe writes about the stories we hear, and makes it epic and a picture. Bizzy was in the zone and let the demons surrounding himself turn off
most listeners, instead of using that zone to build off of. DMX is like Bizzy except he rides the zone better, we know he's battling demons so
we tune in. Most white rappers have appeal to the zone but then offer absolutely nothing afterwards.

i get the disconnect analogy in some PRINCIPAL you posted.
yet I don't get the disconnect analogy.
as far as bizzy bone goes.
as bizzy is ruthless records and ruthless records runs the world.

after that dmx falls in that picture and is nowhere near the global longer standing draw.
that bizzy bone is in complete mythos either.
As bizzy bone is the actual reason.
we, as in all of us moving forward in America.
even care on a level that is unmatched.
about just a random stranger.
let alone a child in America.
As bizzy bone is attached to the revolution of human care.
on a level that actually made AMERICA care.
plus and with swift administrative urgency.
adopt autonomous systematic fluid urgent governmental change with as well.

DMX has a glossed over background purposefully shielded from most public consumption as a or based science.
yet bizzy bone has a background that is completely and generally on purpose glossed over.
to reach normalcy and his background is the actual frame glossed over.
as publically in America is a triumph of everything American values are supposed to be in conclusion of solving a crisis.


art barr

 

[Greenhornet]

i get the disconnect analogy in some PRINCIPAL you posted.
yet I don't get the disconnect analogy.
as far as bizzy bone goes.
as bizzy is ruthless records and ruthless records runs the world.

after that dmx falls in that picture and is nowhere near the global longer standing draw.
that bizzy bone is in complete mythos either.
As bizzy bone is the actual reason.
we, as in all of us moving forward in America.
even care on a level that is unmatched.
about just a random stranger.
let alone a child in America.
As bizzy bone is attached to the revolution of human care.
on a level that actually made AMERICA care.
plus and with swift administrative urgency.
adopt autonomous systematic fluid urgent governmental change with as well.

DMX has a glossed over background purposefully shielded from most public consumption as a or based science.
yet bizzy bone has a background that is completely and generally on purpose glossed over.
to reach normalcy and his background is the actual frame glossed over.
as publically in America is a triumph of everything American values are supposed to be in conclusion of solving a crisis.


art barr

Thats a great post as usual and you are also 100% right as usual... how I meant to project the Bizzy and DMX was
We almost all know their backgrounds, but DMX played into his and it was marketable for better or worse. It fits his rise and fall
that we've all witnessed. Bizzy, baring the Bone Thugs explosion, Ruthless being an absolute powerhouse and being international for a period
could have marketed and became even more mega if he wanted to. Like you said, he chose to sidestep and become normal based on his circumstance
which like you also said is actually a very amazing principle behind what should happen and a step towards how it should be.

I'm just saying marketability and circumstance change with a very thin line. Dmx could have chosen to cry and be an emo rapper and it would have destroyed his zone.
People play into that whole, I'm wild and dont give a fukk and obviously scared from drugs but still a very spiritual and intelligent man. Bizzy could have went a few different directions
and musically gained way more traction, for better or worse to his mental health. What's cool is they did what made them comfortable, and that doesnt get brought up enough. I dont mean any
discrepancy between the two, just the fact that they both used marketability in different ways. Jin was brought up because he was right in between to me, he stayed true and lyrical... how he always
wanted to be. But he kind of receded when he saw it was all about him being Chinese ... he could have wrote in either direction but chose to say, fukk it... this aint what I love or what I'm about. 3 very marketable situations with 3 different outcomes. Eminem kind of plays into all 3 at once, thats why I believe he has extreme amounts of foundation. He cant be knocked because he's driving a 6 speed, he hides, he stays lyrical sometimes, he plays into the persona, he admits and does white songs, he also brings it back and drops underground stuff. Its a cycle he's in that keeps him rolling with no bumps. Alot of dudes that are tier 3 give you one direction every single time and only market that way, it doesnt captivate or market you well. Like if David Copperfield walked through the great wall every single year for 20 years, nobody would tune in after year 3. I cant listen to Yelawolf, not because I hate him, but because I know exactly what he's about to do or say and its not interesting to me. Eminem can rap about KIM, re-establishment of relationships, his daughter, his failures as an executive, drugs, isolation, being hated for stature, addressing race stuff, did he relapse?, drama with d-12, future plans, who he can sign next, stories from 2000-2008, weird partnerships...Did he suddenly revert back to mixtape marshall etc. If Yelawolf told me about his daughter, I wouldnt care and immediately shut it off...because I dont care or connect with his average life. Eminem set all tables with reality and images, none of these other white rappers have anything to talk or be about. Even if he didnt ever bring up family he can still fall back on other huge things. Beef, Lyricism, Fighting, Drugs, Fame, being a Weirdo. People wanna hear any of that. He's got so much ground covered like Snoop, Jay, Nas, Pac. Nas became super huge off of a bad relationship, and then we all wanted to hear why Life Is Good fukked up with Kelis. Not because we cared, its juicy shyt like episode 6 to us knowing Nas as a person. So much ground to cover if you can manage to do it as an artist.

But I 100% feel you and agree, alot of it is just circumstance and direction. I just use the basis of artists as an example of why Eminem, beyond race, is Mega. ICP is only big because they stayed in their zone and paid respect to oldschool rap... I personally dont like them but they are smart. You have to be something marketable and real to yourself... then expand into something different to encompass a core. 90% of white rappers just stop at being white and thats good enough.

 

[Art Barr]

Thats a great post as usual and you are also 100% right as usual... how I meant to project the Bizzy and DMX was
We almost all know their backgrounds, but DMX played into his and it was marketable for better or worse. It fits his rise and fall
that we've all witnessed. Bizzy, baring the Bone Thugs explosion, Ruthless being an absolute powerhouse and being international for a period
could have marketed and became even more mega if he wanted to. Like you said, he chose to sidestep and become normal based on his circumstance
which like you also said is actually a very amazing principle behind what should happen and a step towards how it should be.

I'm just saying marketability and circumstance change with a very thin line. Dmx could have chosen to cry and be an emo rapper and it would have destroyed his zone.
People play into that whole, I'm wild and dont give a fukk and obviously scared from drugs but still a very spiritual and intelligent man. Bizzy could have went a few different directions
and musically gained way more traction, for better or worse to his mental health. What's cool is they did what made them comfortable, and that doesnt get brought up enough. I dont mean any
discrepancy between the two, just the fact that they both used marketability in different ways. Jin was brought up because he was right in between to me, he stayed true and lyrical... how he always
wanted to be. But he kind of receded when he saw it was all about him being Chinese ... he could have wrote in either direction but chose to say, fukk it... this aint what I love or what I'm about. 3 very marketable situations with 3 different outcomes. Eminem kind of plays into all 3 at once, thats why I believe he has extreme amounts of foundation. He cant be knocked because he's driving a 6 speed, he hides, he stays lyrical sometimes, he plays into the persona, he admits and does white songs, he also brings it back and drops underground stuff. Its a cycle he's in that keeps him rolling with no bumps. Alot of dudes that are tier 3 give you one direction every single time and only market that way, it doesnt captivate or market you well. Like if David Copperfield walked through the great wall every single year for 20 years, nobody would tune in after year 3. I cant listen to Yelawolf, not because I hate him, but because I know exactly what he's about to do or say and its not interesting to me. Eminem can rap about KIM, re-establishment of relationships, his daughter, his failures as an executive, drugs, isolation, being hated for stature, addressing race stuff, did he relapse?, drama with d-12, future plans, who he can sign next, stories from 2000-2008, weird partnerships...Did he suddenly revert back to mixtape marshall etc. If Yelawolf told me about his daughter, I wouldnt care and immediately shut it off...because I dont care or connect with his average life. Eminem set all tables with reality and images, none of these other white rappers have anything to talk or be about. Even if he didnt ever bring up family he can still fall back on other huge things. Beef, Lyricism, Fighting, Drugs, Fame, being a Weirdo. People wanna hear any of that. He's got so much ground covered like Snoop, Jay, Nas, Pac. Nas became super huge off of a bad relationship, and then we all wanted to hear why Life Is Good fukked up with Kelis. Not because we cared, its juicy shyt like episode 6 to us knowing Nas as a person. So much ground to cover if you can manage to do it as an artist.

But I 100% feel you and agree, alot of it is just circumstance and direction. I just use the basis of artists as an example of why Eminem, beyond race, is Mega. ICP is only big because they stayed in their zone and paid respect to oldschool rap... I personally dont like them but they are smart. You have to be something marketable and real to yourself... then expand into something different to encompass a core. 90% of white rappers just stop at being white and thats good enough.

Excellent rant.
as time goes and some rate of normalcy is reached after conclusion of a crisis is reached. I think we all as humans have to reach some point. Where normalcy incorporates us having human care as a pre-req.
to just being on earth. Plus i don't believe.
we as humans are at this point in history where we understand each other. Plus, we are not at the point.
where we respect each other globally.
just for even being around. So in that,...we are gaining ground.
just everyday as a species. Yet in that, normalcy or normalcy being what i call high quality human care. Is gained but could appear to be lost along the way.
as normalcy or high quality care is attained. Where eventually or hopefully we all on earth.
can gain perspective to care about all of us and our manageable civil differences. in that bizzy bone and dmx as examples.
are normal given the circumstances of their American poverty based lives and where we are in human care. As dmx and bizzy bone are achievements in human care that set predecents if looked at and surveyed wholeheartedly before we in America were made aware till now.
with EMINEM, it shows another parallel in the scheme of human life too. As he has a story.
that as a result of commercialism. He became a victim in the storm.
to keep the culture's last profitable gateway culture alive. That in that EMINEM applied himself. On a level that shows under extreme pressure in povertous conditions of all types. Even through victimization of any kind. Something positive and a rate. of normalcy for the circumstance could be reached.
as all of us and eminem is more or less.
a student of every cultural situation in hip hop.
plus, being honest.
out of any megastar in the pop relam of history.
I think EMINEM maybe the most grounded normal personality.
whether black or white as a megastar.
culturally, in hip hop.
Eminem is whom he is because he is an actual excellent bboy first.
which in hip hop after you embrace the culture.
should be all their should be first and foremost.
as being cultural and embracing that.
as bboys and bgirls culturally we are endoctrined to take care of one another at the core of hip hop.
through poverty of any kind.
hip hop is the culture of defeating poverty.
along with being the culture of the skilled impoverished people of the pillars.
in that EMINEM is a shining star and his contribution as an adult.
should never be overlooked.
as hiphop has learned a number of lessons from em.
just like Eminem has learned and flourished from hiphop culture.

in gaining understanding.

Eminem should be mentioned in gaining understanding in hip hop.
we gained ground, learned. Or re-inforced more key values in understanding.
from EMINEM in different arrays of thought.
that help to make us prescient to what is ahead. Or what needs to be resurveyed and mined.
plus what should be left behind and not tolerated as well.



art barr

there is more to be gained culturally understanding what we learned from before em.
to now that eminem was around to what is there after.

 

[Greenhornet]

Comp

Excellent rant.
as time goes and some rate of normalcy is reached after conclusion of a crisis is reached. I think we all as humans have to reach some point. Where normalcy incorporates us having human care as a pre-req.
to just being on earth. Plus i don't believe.
we as humans are at this point in history where we understand each other. Plus, we are not at the point.
where we respect each other globally.
just for even being around. So in that,...we are gaining ground.
just everyday as a species. Yet in that, normalcy or normalcy being what i call high quality human care. Is gained but could appear to be lost along the way.
as normalcy or high quality care is attained. Where eventually or hopefully we all on earth.
can gain perspective to care about all of us and our manageable civil differences. in that bizzy bone and dmx as examples.
are normal given the circumstances of their American poverty based lives and where we are in human care. As dmx and bizzy bone are achievements in human care that set predecents if looked at and surveyed wholeheartedly before we in America were made aware till now.
with EMINEM, it shows another parallel in the scheme of human life too. As he has a story.
that as a result of commercialism. He became a victim in the storm.
to keep the culture's last profitable gateway culture alive. That in that EMINEM applied himself. On a level that shows under extreme pressure in povertous conditions of all types. Even through victimization of any kind. Something positive and a rate. of normalcy for the circumstance could be reached.
as all of us and eminem is more or less.
a student of every cultural situation in hip hop.
plus, being honest.
out of any megastar in the pop relam of history.
I think EMINEM maybe the most grounded normal personality.
whether black or white as a megastar.
culturally, in hip hop.
Eminem is whom he is because he is an actual excellent bboy first.
which in hip hop after you embrace the culture.
should be all their should be first and foremost.
as being cultural and embracing that.
as bboys and bgirls culturally we are endoctrined to take care of one another at the core of hip hop.
through poverty of any kind.
hip hop is the culture of defeating poverty.
along with being the culture of the skilled impoverished people of the pillars.
in that EMINEM is a shining star and his contribution as an adult.
should never be overlooked.
as hiphop has learned a number of lessons from em.
just like Eminem has learned and flourished from hiphop culture.

in gaining understanding.

Eminem should be mentioned in gaining understanding in hip hop.
we gained ground, learned. Or re-inforced more key values in understanding.
from EMINEM in different arrays of thought.
that help to make us prescient to what is ahead. Or what needs to be resurveyed and mined.
plus what should be left behind and not tolerated as well.



art barr

there is more to be gained culturally understanding what we learned from before em.
to now that eminem was around to what is there after.

Completely agree, Art you are the man as usual. I stole my posting style from you 10 years ago
Besides seeing and making progress towards the reality of pure artform, and expression in all ways and viewpoints.
This is kind of bending your point a little bit, but I was looking at the rare pictures of 2pac and Biggie thread... and I realized I didnt know
a few people in each picture. That also made me wonder, besides fame and a label on people (2pac and Biggie) for as grandstanding and impactful as they are,
people now and people before them had no clue or cared who they were. Then it dawned on me that in both pictures, all of the men were fighting eachother for no reason at all.
Now without knowing 2pac or Biggie... if you just looked at each picture. Both groups were doing the same exact thing and living life as human. If you could go back and tell them, that their fame
and ego was only a mask and temporary, and the same shyt your enemies do ... is what you are also enjoying. It puts alot in perspective from a different angle of growth and time.

I know thats completely off topic but for growth, it made me realize why are we fighting people based on heresay and a manifested hatred. When we all go to the club, drink... watch some TV and relax in the same way. There's really no reason to not get along and help somone grow. You could have mix and matched people in the pictures and they would have still been vibing and drinking... they didnt have to "ride for the cause" or chose sides in some imaginary feud. Besides what the original topic was about, with the momentum of people accepting and understanding circumstance and choices individuals live by and grow in, if you tie all of this in together. The results and understanding are extremely easy to feel and right in front of us. All of the twists and decimation could be easily fixed with open minded people and views. People should be respected for who they are and not what they are perceived to be. From extreme circumstance with Drugs, Molestation from the artists we already named... to the NWA beef and Pac and Big, all of that is simple and could be avoided easily too. People spend more time trying to misinterpret things from their angle, rather than seeing it through the other person's eyes. You can't write someone elses story and tell them how to feel or live, and I wish we all could take a step back and appreciate people for what they are, and identify when help is needed. Maybe we do need more individualism so we can break out of the pack mentality But you are 100% correct my brother, speaking more about understanding and perspective should be a staple in character and normalized so people dont fear something that's different from them. Fear and confusion create lessons of men

 

[REAL6]

Post Malone has albums that went double diamond and all that type of shyt?

I don't think he sold ten million records or singles.

Streams are not sales and don't count!!!

 

[Art Barr]

Comp

Completely agree, Art you are the man as usual. I stole my posting style from you 10 years ago
Besides seeing and making progress towards the reality of pure artform, and expression in all ways and viewpoints.
This is kind of bending your point a little bit, but I was looking at the rare pictures of 2pac and Biggie thread... and I realized I didnt know
a few people in each picture. That also made me wonder, besides fame and a label on people (2pac and Biggie) for as grandstanding and impactful as they are,
people now and people before them had no clue or cared who they were. Then it dawned on me that in both pictures, all of the men were fighting eachother for no reason at all.
Now without knowing 2pac or Biggie... if you just looked at each picture. Both groups were doing the same exact thing and living life as human. If you could go back and tell them, that their fame
and ego was only a mask and temporary, and the same shyt your enemies do ... is what you are also enjoying. It puts alot in perspective from a different angle of growth and time.

I know thats completely off topic but for growth, it made me realize why are we fighting people based on heresay and a manifested hatred. When we all go to the club, drink... watch some TV and relax in the same way. There's really no reason to not get along and help somone grow. You could have mix and matched people in the pictures and they would have still been vibing and drinking... they didnt have to "ride for the cause" or chose sides in some imaginary feud. Besides what the original topic was about, with the momentum of people accepting and understanding circumstance and choices individuals live by and grow in, if you tie all of this in together. The results and understanding are extremely easy to feel and right in front of us. All of the twists and decimation could be easily fixed with open minded people and views. People should be respected for who they are and not what they are perceived to be. From extreme circumstance with Drugs, Molestation from the artists we already named... to the NWA beef and Pac and Big, all of that is simple and could be avoided easily too. People spend more time trying to misinterpret things from their angle, rather than seeing it through the other person's eyes. You can't write someone elses story and tell them how to feel or live, and I wish we all could take a step back and appreciate people for what they are, and identify when help is needed. Maybe we do need more individualism so we can break out of the pack mentality But you are 100% correct my brother, speaking more about understanding and perspective should be a staple in character and normalized so people dont fear something that's different from them. Fear and confusion create lessons of men

that fringe culture meets business ideal hurt both Pac and big.
as both may have saw how they were one in the exact same at one point.
the further they let both of their tethers to the culture get frayed. It lessened the perspective for both to see clearly to navigate.

in understanding both were exactly in the same situation with two of the same types of villains, administratively as well.

big with clive snd puff.
Pac with jimmy and later suge.

as the model for both were well and away culturally from what both artist probably fully envisioned. Which is where both had a lack of understanding and both met similar fates. While both were similar and So similar.
they could and did share living space together as professionals. When both as professionals.
should never have dually both been in the situation given the business..
yet given the business.
being controlled by the powers that be and here we are.


prolifiic posting.
prolific dialogue, sir.




Art Barr

on another note ...mike tyson talks really well about ego on his podcast hotbox'n.
I urge anyone to watch it and the level of humilty in Tyson as well.

 

[tonyclifton]

Em has respect for rap and you can hear it

I don’t like his new shyt

From sslp to 8mile he was a fukking monster

Dope ass flow and still rhymed like crazy

Can’t stand the new shyt minus a couple now

 

[Dog Based Gremlin]

Eminem and Dre's beats helped him along and coming at pop stars like britney & christina

the original 6ixNine

 

[King P]

This is akin to asking "why don't other Black politicians get the backing/support that Obama did?"

 

[ManBearPig]

NF is popular as hell.


The fukk is the OP talking about

 

[Wild self]

Cause Eminem set the bar so damn high, that other white rappers fall short to what he did. Its a catch 22 for the first semi-credible white MC to focus on rhyming and song structure, that no other white rapper came close to what he did 21 years later.

In a way, that protected a lot of black MCs from being undermined during the "gold rush" years from 96-2008. Hip Hop is now 46 years old, and only recently in the last few years that white artists had success for more than one year in the artform.