Why don't we have high speed rail ?

the cac mamba

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do non-union workers build high-speed rail in other developed countries? why do you believe it's not feasible here?
As of February 2024, the estimated cost of the California High-Speed Rail (HSR) project is between $89 billion and $128 billion. This cost includes allowances for future inflation. The project's total cost has increased significantly from its original estimate of $33 billion.

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As of February 2024, the estimated cost of the California High-Speed Rail (HSR) project is between $89 billion and $128 billion. This cost includes allowances for future inflation. The project's total cost has increased significantly from its original estimate of $33 billion.

Alexa, say something critical of the Democratic party

you just ignored the question :stopitslime:





 

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Nah...can't totally blame Republicans for this one.

Read up on what happened/happening with the California LA to San Francisco rail line (A state Run by Democrats and the project has the backing of the federal government)

Just pure incompetence, red-tape, regulations, sky-rocketing cost, local governments getting in the way, etc...

We just can't seem to do big shyt anymore in this country. China pulling shyt off in record time and probably at a fraction of the cost. Oh...and if shyt goes wrong, somebody's going to jail or getting executed :yeshrug:


The one thing i only slightly give credit to the talking points of the right wing, elon crowd is this...if you want to do shyt, you just gotta do it...fukk all the red tape and two years studies and local ordinances and whatever else. JUST BUILD THE shyt

I'm glad you brought this point up. The Dems in Cali have had all arms of government for the past 20 years and have not been able to get this done. SF to LA is one of the most traveled airline routes in this country. The fact that there isn’t a HSR option for this corridor is mind boggling. Failure of government of the highest order.

For a state that prides itself on being “green” and also setting higher emissions standards, it's an own goal to not have established HSR across the viable corridor.

TBH if the U.S had HSR nationwide, would the common American even be able to afford to ride on it? U.S has one HSR train.... the Acela between Boston and DC and the prices for tickets are as high as giraffe p*ssy :mjlol: Even NYC - Philly is expensive on Acela.

For it to work, the government would have to subsidize it in perpetuity, just like other forms of transportation.

To me, the US should look at making transportation as efficient as possible and give people as many viable options as possible. If one corridor makes sense for HSR and Light Rail, then build it. A good transportation network that will efficiently move people and goods across the country is a boost for the economy.

No one is saying build HSR in North Dakota or Montana, but where it makes sense.

how come other countries are able to make it cheaper? shouldn't economies of scale especially with our larger population in some cases help?

Subsidies from the government.

Most if not all National rail in Europe and Asia is subsidized by the national government. The US just needs to agree that having reliable, efficient public transportation is in best interest of the country.
 
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86th place :what::hhh: for car related deaths.

Germany with limitless autobahns is 15th.

UK 11th.

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You’re looking at it a little skewed by just rankings and not valuable lost life :beli:
 

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I've been hearing about the SF to LA high speed rail my whole life. It's slow moving but they're making progress . . . the initial segment between Merced and Bakersfield is set to open between 2030-2033, who knows about the rest :francis:

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