Exactly. they fukked Guatemela up something serious
Why every Country Ends up eventually becoming Capitalist
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The format for this is wrong breh
It's an academic discussion that would be more efficiently had over audio, or in person at a lecture/debate hall, or even in an actual research paper. Message board format is inappropriate and wouldn't lend itself to giving you the in-depth response that you deserve and it would be disrespectful to your points for me to throw together some half thought out paragraph and some Wikipedia quotes.
Plus it's a Saturday . Surely we could both be doing better things with our day than having message board arguments. I used to enjoy these kinda heated debates in college, but I doubt either of us is getting grade for this from the Harlem institute of political Science.
lets leave it at that. Have a good weekend Breh
Richard Glidewell
Yall done tore all the bottom of ya shoes w/me!!!
More so people are complicated than life is and i say complicatef as a nicetie.......people and their agendas and motivations........if a 20 to 50 year plan can be sat and created with variables accounted for and contingencies created, then that more than shows it is possible if not for people
Cakebatter
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No. My post only spoke to the prevalence of Governmental Capitalist economies throughout the world and the scope of economic discussion within the US. The concept of private ownership and the ability to produce for personal profit is as old as time and no one argues against it from an interpersonal standpoint. Capitalism as a governmental economic structure is a different discussion, as it offers pros and cons that are very debatable. I sense you really don't know much about captalism yourself. Modern banking started in places where Theocracies and Fuedalism ruled the day, not capitalism. Trade and commerce aren't limited to captialism, only property ownership and ownership of production for profit. I went to college for Archaeology, but they teach this stuff in Business 100 level courses. I mention Milton Friedman, as his "Stan's" are the most vocal. Are you one of them? They fail to acknowledge how Americans we are ingratiated with early Protestant American moral values that shape our economic thought. We all do, but especially them, struggle to see outside of it. You really should look at historic views of the poor. They aren't constant.
Cakebatter
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This is a fallacy. This correlation between ownership and work ethic has not been substantiate by any science or data. This is just cultural bias. At best you can say people work harder for greater compensation and ownership provides the potential for the greatest compensation. It's the reason why we've witnessed employees working like dogs for a company with no ownership stake.
If that's the case how come we do not have any examples of a successful communist state or a 100% socialist state?
Why will I put in extra effort for something that belongs to the state as opposed to my own?
@ broke cats seeing their communist dreams shatter. Ol' I think I can smoke weed and BS on social media about thots and cacs and get the same wage as a Fortune 500 company founder 
. The world's not flat and neither is society supposed to be. Don't ever promote that commie 
to the black race! 
When China and Russia wanted to prosper, capitalism was added to their agenda. Just like the video says. We better do the same.
Cakebatter
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I exposed your proposition in my post with a legit example. If your point struggles to hold up even within the US, why would I even need to venture beyond it?
Worker motivation isn't limited to ownership. It's not even limited to compensation. It's sometimes religious based , culturally based, for pleasure, or combinations of them.
Still waiting for the successful communist state. Bruh, I got all day. Take your time.
Cakebatter
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Why would I need to do that? It's irrelevant to the view you gave on worker motivations. I don't play games with people who move goalposts. So keep waiting. I've moved on.
Ezekiel 25:17
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Whenever someone complains about Capitalism I always ask them "What system has never been corrupted by government?"
We could change to Socialism or Communism tomorrow morning, that don't mean big corporations still won't take advantage of the people.
ALL systems have the potential to become corrupt. shyt ain't rainbows and unicorns, never will be.
We could change to Socialism or Communism tomorrow morning, that don't mean big corporations still won't take advantage of the people.
ALL systems have the potential to become corrupt. shyt ain't rainbows and unicorns, never will be.
-Sieze companies as they become monopolies. In my government we wouldve been told Bezos he had a nice run but beat it
-Condense everything,your homes and apartment dont need to be nearly as huge as they are.
-Empower the formation of more unions
-Free school
-Flat payrates in every industry,your pay increases based on experience only. Your pay will increase and decrease based on need in your state or nationally.
-Make houses depreciate like cars. Homes will no longer be purchased as investment vehichles to grow wealth. This Will bring home values down,and create a wealthier middle class,less poor.
Also create more early retirees,business owners. Which will promote expansion into middle America.
-Take women out of the workforce,unless they have permission from their father or husband. Or have been determined to be unbelieveably gifted.
-Condense everything,your homes and apartment dont need to be nearly as huge as they are.
-Empower the formation of more unions
-Free school
-Flat payrates in every industry,your pay increases based on experience only. Your pay will increase and decrease based on need in your state or nationally.
-Make houses depreciate like cars. Homes will no longer be purchased as investment vehichles to grow wealth. This Will bring home values down,and create a wealthier middle class,less poor.
Also create more early retirees,business owners. Which will promote expansion into middle America.
-Take women out of the workforce,unless they have permission from their father or husband. Or have been determined to be unbelieveably gifted.
Why are you so gun-ho about capitalism? We don’t even have Capitalism in America. It’s now a very weird mix of corporatism and feudalism
UpAndComing
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This is the era we are in. "Stan", "Gun-ho", "My side is better" because something is being broken down that they can't refute lol
Only 1% of the people in this Capitalistic society practices Corporatism, while 99% practice Capitalism. Focusing on the %1 is the ultimate cop out when someone does not want to address facts they can't refute
That 1% literally controls every single facet and decision making in this country. You think groups like BlackTree don’t exist their power to the fullest? They have the capabilities of firing the entire board of directors of a company and hiring new ones on the spot. If you think that 99% has any real control outside of the illusion given to them I have a castle in Nárnia I can sell you