Why Has The World Pretended For So Long That Classical Music Isn’t Trash?

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I love many types of music including Western classical particularly more experimental and modernist stylings. However, Western classical music’s reputation has more to do with European colonial ideals about harmony, tonality, melodic phrasing and aesthetics than it does the the actual music. Many cultures have art or classical music.

Contrary to what Westerners think, Africans also have art and classical forms of music. It’s just that it doesn’t not meet the criteria of what makes Western classical music and thus it gets demoted to “folk music” or “ethnomusic”.

It’s racism-white supremacy in musical form.

The complex lamellophone (mbira/sanza/kalimba/karimba) musical culture of Zimbabwe is a form of classical music but gets demoted to “folk” music because Europeans said so. The music has a rich high culture associated with that not everyone can understand or access. The lamellophonic cultural music of Zimbabwe that exists amongst the Shona, Venda, San, Nambya, Kalanga and Tswana- has a rich aesthetic, dramatic and artistic context which cannot be ignored. It is not written but it is codified and expressed in its own unique and high cultural way. This is just one example from the continent and I haven’t even touched on jazz, Afro-Cuban music and other diasporic art styles.

So much of what we think and believe about music, art, physical beauty, architecture, history and philosophy has been distorted by the European savagery that was colonialism. Western classical music is beautiful but it is not the only beautiful music nor is it the most beautiful. Just my 0.02 as a Zimbabwean American music lover
Yeah that’s why they discriminate heavy against black orchestra players. They’ve been doing for so long that it helped create jazz. They think we taint their music
 

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Yeah that’s why they discriminate heavy against black orchestra players. They’ve been doing for so long that it helped create jazz. They think we taint their music

It’s sick breh. Some of the best art/classical musics are made by black people.

It’s funny cuz jazz superseded classical music in America. Cacs have even tried calling jazz “America’s classical music” despite the fact they didn’t initially fukk with lol. Cacs are a funny bunch :mjlol:
 

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Chopin and Tchaikovsky put out everything from panty droppers to war music
Right


Imagine not listening to Tchaikovsky ever.

This is like when people call expensive food trash because they never tasted it prepared by the right people. Live classical music will transform a life.
 

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Afrobeats is FAR worse than classical.​
Also true
Faulty logic, afrobeats is literally western pop chord progressions with west African drums and basslines. :coffee:

Don’t argue with me too, I’m a music producer and can literally point out individual examples. Y’all gone lose this argument with me ten fold I promise you.
Only good for exercises and practicing scales

Beethoven, Rachmaninoff, Stravinsky and Tchaikovsky are pretty cool to listen to tho

Orchestral video game music beats conventional Classical imo tho, Classical by itself is fukking boring. Modern syncopated rhythms make classical elements bearable, not the other way around
I don’t know what kind of crack Japanese video composers be smoking but it blows almost All classical stuff I’ve heard out the water. Final fantasy and .hack/bandai ost>>>>
 
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Depends on your ear.

Wifey is good at remembering the lyrics to every damn song. She really listens to the wordplay and catches all the meanings, double entendres etc.

I tend to listen to the music and all the instruments...much easier in classical versus other music. Oboes, flutes, violins, cellos etc. Listen long enough and you'll find some good shyt.
Oboes :mjlol:
 
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