Why hasn't Joakim Noah or Michael Kidd Gilchrist been pulled to the side and talked to about their J

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:russ:people recognizing beal outside od Dc/Fl &Stl.
MKG would get spotted as a baller simply being taller.
Beal ceiling is 2nd tier all star. MKG with a jumper is Top 5
Come on bruh, you cannot be SERIOUS :umad:

I'm not even bullshytting, I would not know who MKG was if he didn't have a jersey on
I just looked up some pictures, why he look like a different dude in each pic :wtf:
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I would have NO IDEA who this nikka was in the street.
I'd have to wait til he took a jumpshot, then I'd go "Oh, yeah.. MKG"
If that nikka was a fugitive, he better stay away from a basketball is all I'm gonna say
Otherwise, he's like Wesley Snipes in Africa here :heh:


Oh, and ya boy look kinda sweet :wrist:
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How the hell his elbow move like that??? I have a had recurring dream that I'm playing basket ball and every time I get a open shot i can't release the ball. If my shot was like this I would never shoot
 

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Someone needs to start a thread on "potential," because seemingly a good number of people on here think potential is unlimited or something. For instance, "Man, if so and so just added a post game." "Man, if he could learn to shoot." Man, if he could just shore up his ball-handling." They would, if they could. If you lack something that's intrinsic for a particular skill set, you will never be adept at it regardless of how much you work on it. Don't have a good sense of spatial awareness and what I'll call basketball intuition (i.e. how the defender is likely to react and your subsequent reaction before it even happens), you will never be a good post player. If you don't have an innate ability for dexterity and improvisation, elite ball handling is out the window. You lack feel and touch with the ball in your hands, you will never be a good shooter. Can you improve on it in some incremental sense? Sure. But, someone like Steph Curry going from an adequate ballhander to having that bytch on a string is an outlier. There are hundreds of dudes that have came into the league that couldn't shoot when they got drafted and when they left it they still couldn't shoot. I also don't think how a jumpshot looks aesthetically is all that important. Yeah, it would be great to have a pretty or conventional one, but if innate touch isn't there it won't matter. Terrence Williams jumpshot is fine as far as motion and mechanics and he can't shoot. Bird released the ball more to the right of his head than you're supposed to and is one of the GOATS.

Also, environment plays a huge role in the development of these skills. If Harrison Barnes was raised in Chicago he would be a better ballhandler, because from the very time he started playing the game he would've had to deal with being pressured on the ball by athletes and people playing up on him. If something isn't introduced early in basketball it's usually way too late to try to perfect it 20 years later. If MKG ever gets his form straightened out, he still won't be able to shoot.
 
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Someone needs to start a thread on "potential," because seemingly a good number of people on here think potential is unlimited or something. For instance, "Man, if so and so just added a post game." "Man, if he could learn to shoot." Man, if he could just shore up his ball-handling." They would, if they could. If you lack something that's intrinsic for a particular skill set, you will never be adept at it regardless of how much you work on it. Don't have a good sense of spatial awareness and what I'll call basketball intuition (i.e. how the defender is likely to react and your subsequent reaction before it even happens), you will never be a good post player. If you don't have an innate ability for dexterity and improvisation, elite ball handling is out the window. You lack feel and touch with the ball in your hands, you will never be a good shooter. Can you improve on it in some incremental sense? Sure. But, someone like Steph Curry going from an adequate ballhander to having that bytch on a string is an outlier. There are hundreds of dudes that have come into the league that couldn't shoot when they got drafted and when they left it they still couldn't shoot. I also don't think how a jumpshot looks aesthetically is all that important. Yeah, it would be great to have a pretty or conventional one, but if innate touch isn't there it won't matter. Terrence Williams jumpshot is fine as far as motion and mechanics and he can't shoot. Bird released the ball more to the right of his head than you're supposed to and is one of the GOATS.

Also, environment plays a huge role in the development of these skills. If Harrison Barnes was raised in Chicago he would be a better ballhandler, because from the very time he started playing the game he would've had to deal with being pressured on the balls by athletes and people playing up on him. If something isn't introduced early in basketball it's usually way too late to try to perfect it 20 years later. If MKG ever gets his form straightened out, he still won't be able to shoot.
People really like making it sound like guys can't improve their shot in the NBA when in reality its probably the easiest thing to change in one's skillset.:comeon:
 

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People really like making it sound like guys can't improve their shot in the NBA when in reality its probably the easiest thing to change in one's skillset.:comeon:

Name 10 guys who have dramatically improved their ability to shoot from awful to elite and I'll name 50 that didn't. Most guys who improve their jumper exponentially were adequate shooters to begin with. It's not "easy" to become a good shooter, especially by NBA standards. Like, I hear people say, "Oh, when Wiggins get his J right he'll be nasty." Breh, that is contingent on so many things, and the most fundamental being that Wiggins has innate touch, which no one knows.

Think about someone like Josh Smith. I would argue between shootarounds, practice, warm-up, the offseason, individual training and coaching sessions and being a 10 year vet that he has shot over 500,000 jumpers in his life. He's about to be 29. Let's say he started playing basketball at 7, which is conservative. That's 22 years of shooting. That's 8,030 days. I also didn't account for leap years out laziness. That breaks down roughly 62.3 jumpers a day to reach 500,000 in 22 years and 22,739 jumpers a year. shyt, looking at the numbers, Josh Smith has shot well over 500,000 practice jumpers in his life, and if he had to take a shot that was for your life, you'd make sure your insurance policy had a proper beneficiary beforehand. A lot of people just cannot shot, because they lack they adequate touch to be a good shooter.
 
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People been criticizing Shawn Marion's jumper for the longest.
15 yrs in the league, 133 million dollars and counting in salary and he sitting back like...:sas2:

Marion's shot looks very weird but isn't bad. On the other hand, MKG's shot is :gag::gag: status
 

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Name 10 guys who have dramatically improved their ability to shoot from awful to elite and I'll name 50 that didn't. Most guys who improve their jumper exponentially were adequate shooters to begin with. It's not "easy" to become a good shooter, especially by NBA standards. Like, I hear people say, "Oh, when Wiggins get his J right he'll be nasty." Breh, that is contingent on so many things, and the most fundamental being that Wiggins has innate touch, which no one knows.

Think about someone like Josh Smith. I would argue between shootarounds, practice, warm-up, the offseason, individual training and coaching sessions and being a 10 year vet that he has shot over 500,000 jumpers in his life. He's about to be 29. Let's say he started playing basketball at 7, which is conservative. That's 22 years of shooting. That's 8,030 days. I also didn't account for leap years out laziness. That breaks down roughly 62.3 jumpers a day to reach 500,000 in 22 years and 22,739 jumpers a year. shyt, looking at the numbers, Josh Smith has shot well over 500,000 practice jumpers in his life, and if he had to take a shot that was for your life, you'd make sure your insurance policy had a proper beneficiary beforehand. A lot of people just cannot shot, because they lack they adequate touch to be a good shooter.
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At times during his rookie season, his shooting was so bad the entire team was like "damn nikka, you fukkin with my chi"
Most had no faith in him
Even Stan Van Gundy was like J.Wow ain't a PG in this league

Then Michael Jordan, his jumper wasn't wet like it became either.
This probably goes for most great shooters if you really think about it
 

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At times during his rookie season, his shooting was so bad the entire team was like "damn nikka, you fukkin with my chi"
Most had no faith in him
Even Stan Van Gundy was like J.Wow ain't a PG in this league

Then Michael Jordan, his jumper wasn't wet like it became either.
This probably goes for most great shooters if you really think about it


Name another 9 that went from horrible shooters to good shooters and I'll give you 50 that stayed horrible. I'm not saying there aren't 10 cases of people who were weak jump shooters and improved greatly: Karl Malone is an example of that. What I'm saying is the list of shooters who who were wack and stayed wack is much longer for a reason. A dude like Tyrus Thomas is an example. It's like people think players can become as good as they want through sheer will power or something. This isn't anime. :pachaha:They are limits to this shyt. Even if you become the best in the world at something there's a limit to how good you can become at it.

And MJ was a decent shooter when he came into the league. He didn't have a 3, though.
 
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