Why hasn't Joakim Noah or Michael Kidd Gilchrist been pulled to the side and talked to about their J

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It's all good these dudes made it to the league and are millionaires with their ugly ass jumpers, but something needs to be done. You can't be a professional basketball player and not even utilizing basic fundamentals that are proven to work. shyt is counterproductive and plain stupid. :snoop:

you cant? seems to me these two are in fact professional basketball players without a great shot....

or am i missing something....:sas2:

what your J looking like? :sas1:
 

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Someone needs to start a thread on "potential," because seemingly a good number of people on here think potential is unlimited or something. For instance, "Man, if so and so just added a post game." "Man, if he could learn to shoot." Man, if he could just shore up his ball-handling." They would, if they could. If you lack something that's intrinsic for a particular skill set, you will never be adept at it regardless of how much you work on it. Don't have a good sense of spatial awareness and what I'll call basketball intuition (i.e. how the defender is likely to react and your subsequent reaction before it even happens), you will never be a good post player. If you don't have an innate ability for dexterity and improvisation, elite ball handling is out the window. You lack feel and touch with the ball in your hands, you will never be a good shooter. Can you improve on it in some incremental sense? Sure. But, someone like Steph Curry going from an adequate ballhander to having that bytch on a string is an outlier. There are hundreds of dudes that have came into the league that couldn't shoot when they got drafted and when they left it they still couldn't shoot. I also don't think how a jumpshot looks aesthetically is all that important. Yeah, it would be great to have a pretty or conventional one, but if innate touch isn't there it won't matter. Terrence Williams jumpshot is fine as far as motion and mechanics and he can't shoot. Bird released the ball more to the right of his head than you're supposed to and is one of the GOATS.

Also, environment plays a huge role in the development of these skills. If Harrison Barnes was raised in Chicago he would be a better ballhandler, because from the very time he started playing the game he would've had to deal with being pressured on the ball by athletes and people playing up on him. If something isn't introduced early in basketball it's usually way too late to try to perfect it 20 years later. If MKG ever gets his form straightened out, he still won't be able to shoot.


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PS4 you need to stop bruh, cause Wall still cant shoot consistently.
 

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Its dumb as hell.

How the hell he gonna talk about fixing that stuff at a early age and condemn MKG - when dude isn't even old enough to drink yet?

People way too quick to hate. Tony Parker wasn't even allowed to shoot when he came off the bench. Kyle Lowry was labeled a defensive specialist for most of his career. Conley didn't even look like he deserved an extension when he got paid.

NBA careers don't end overnight. Its not like we're talking about RB vision our QB arm-strength. People are way too quick to throw players under the bus. Especially younger players.
 

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I just don't get how MKG can play aau, a year in college and now a year in the nba and not at any level fix that shot
 

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Someone needs to start a thread on "potential," because seemingly a good number of people on here think potential is unlimited or something. For instance, "Man, if so and so just added a post game." "Man, if he could learn to shoot." Man, if he could just shore up his ball-handling." They would, if they could. If you lack something that's intrinsic for a particular skill set, you will never be adept at it regardless of how much you work on it. Don't have a good sense of spatial awareness and what I'll call basketball intuition (i.e. how the defender is likely to react and your subsequent reaction before it even happens), you will never be a good post player. If you don't have an innate ability for dexterity and improvisation, elite ball handling is out the window. You lack feel and touch with the ball in your hands, you will never be a good shooter. Can you improve on it in some incremental sense? Sure. But, someone like Steph Curry going from an adequate ballhander to having that bytch on a string is an outlier. There are hundreds of dudes that have came into the league that couldn't shoot when they got drafted and when they left it they still couldn't shoot. I also don't think how a jumpshot looks aesthetically is all that important. Yeah, it would be great to have a pretty or conventional one, but if innate touch isn't there it won't matter. Terrence Williams jumpshot is fine as far as motion and mechanics and he can't shoot. Bird released the ball more to the right of his head than you're supposed to and is one of the GOATS.

Also, environment plays a huge role in the development of these skills. If Harrison Barnes was raised in Chicago he would be a better ballhandler, because from the very time he started playing the game he would've had to deal with being pressured on the ball by athletes and people playing up on him. If something isn't introduced early in basketball it's usually way too late to try to perfect it 20 years later. If MKG ever gets his form straightened out, he still won't be able to shoot.

Name 10 guys who have dramatically improved their ability to shoot from awful to elite and I'll name 50 that didn't. Most guys who improve their jumper exponentially were adequate shooters to begin with. It's not "easy" to become a good shooter, especially by NBA standards. Like, I hear people say, "Oh, when Wiggins get his J right he'll be nasty." Breh, that is contingent on so many things, and the most fundamental being that Wiggins has innate touch, which no one knows.

Think about someone like Josh Smith. I would argue between shootarounds, practice, warm-up, the offseason, individual training and coaching sessions and being a 10 year vet that he has shot over 500,000 jumpers in his life. He's about to be 29. Let's say he started playing basketball at 7, which is conservative. That's 22 years of shooting. That's 8,030 days. I also didn't account for leap years out laziness. That breaks down roughly 62.3 jumpers a day to reach 500,000 in 22 years and 22,739 jumpers a year. shyt, looking at the numbers, Josh Smith has shot well over 500,000 practice jumpers in his life, and if he had to take a shot that was for your life, you'd make sure your insurance policy had a proper beneficiary beforehand. A lot of people just cannot shot, because they lack they adequate touch to be a good shooter.







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