Why hasnt that Trap Muzik sound faded out of hip hop yet?

[Wild self]

nikkas don't understand how long hood nikkas from the south have been listening to bass heavy tracks with dope-murder content. As long as it's street nikkas and bytches wantin to shake their ass below the mason-dixon trap music ain't gonna die. The Lil Jon-Three Six era of 01-04 ushered the sound in and it's still the most popular shyt 10 years later..as long as it keeps evolving and don't get stuck in cement like G-Funk and the Soul Sample era's I don't see it goin nowhere anytime soon.

Same thing they said with NY and boom bap street content. People swore up and down that NY street rap would stay popular forever, but it died out. What can potentially kill the popularity of trap rap is what the 10-17 years olds are listening to. If the South has their Kanye West (highly successful artist that came from the burbs with a unique fashion taste), then the trap rappers are gonna be starving in a few years. Every decade around the 3rd to 4th year brings in a massive change.

 

[Art Barr]

Trap Music only comes from atlanta, and atlanta only.

other rappers might use them beats, but it aint trap music unless ATL nikkas is rapping bout ATL shyt on them.

DJ uneek
Freestyle fellowship
Ugk
Dayton family
Da convicts
Color changing clique
Memphis

for starters, would all like a word with you.


Art Barr


I think you got gassed over tip flair's interview this week.
Saying tip, or ATL solely is responsible responsible for trap rap.
Is like saying ric flair was the original nature boi.
Or hulk hogun, had the first reference to 24 inch pythons with superstar bully grahm at six.four standing next to you.


Like usual,....you wrong as fukk, b!!


Art Barr

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

nikkas don't understand how long hood nikkas from the south have been listening to bass heavy tracks with dope-murder content. As long as it's street nikkas and bytches wantin to shake their ass below the mason-dixon trap music ain't gonna die. The Lil Jon-Three Six era of 01-04 ushered the sound in and it's still the most popular shyt 10 years later..as long as it keeps evolving and don't get stuck in cement like G-Funk and the Soul Sample era's I don't see it goin nowhere anytime soon.

exactly!!!...

it's a CLASS THING..as long as thier is an underclass that chooses to make MONEY outside the confines of the IRS and the LAW...

then thier will always be a soundtrack to define that lifestlye

and gottdamn it...TRAP MUSIC is that lifestyle

and erebody trapping , from the young dude moving squares of blow to the single mother selling off her food stamps to pay the rent....

that's why T.I stated in that song "HOT WHEELS"...

As a muthafukka, swear to God, I'm God
To the trap niccas AND the dope boys...pause
Blow a half a mil just cause, ball


^^^that shows you thier is a DISTINCTION between a "COKE BOY" and a "TRAPPER"


so you all must realize:

TRAPPING AIN'T DEAD.....YOU HIP HOP NICCAS JUST SCARED
FAIL TO REALIZE....THE "CULTURE" CAN'T OPERATE WITHOUT BREAD!!

 

[Art Barr]

PROLIFIC POSTING O.G!!

people MUST realize also..that TRAP MUSIC is not a southern version of COKE RAP .....

Yet even though Cocaine is highly refrenced....

an actual "Trap" is where all kinds of shyt is being sold in that hood as well as recreational activies such as gambling, playing video games, and even tricking...

everything is being hustled from white t-shirts to rims....it's just a blackmarket venue

i'm from Georgia so i've seen and been inside plenty of "traps" i remember this one "trap' which was basically a double wide trailer where you could get your weed, buy some liquor (usually moonshine) even on sundays, gamble and when nighttime hit real late...they had scrippers come by that would trick wit niccas as well...

GHETTO MAFIA defined that ...even before T.I put his stamp on it and made it the genre that it is....

"In the Paint" 1997 "straight from the dec"

"We in the paint
You wanna TRAP in my hood
But you can't
Pick up trucks
Mac 11s
Plushed out coups
357s
Quick to bust you
With this black stallion
And falling victim to a trigger
Of a little stallion
'Cause them young boys
Be weedin' and dustin' "

East collie park's greatest hits may have brought light to the phrase trap, or trap'n.
Yet,...
Trap music or gangsta rap with bass and horror movie score backed production.
Has sonically been around for way longer than that dungeon family record.
Plus it has been around longer.
than, when ti coined his original trap musick mixtape.
To secure a deal after getting dropped for the ugk slash mjg musical reggae all coast Hodge podgr called I'm serious.

Tip flair was limousine ridin and jet fly in this weekly greatly.
Yet, you nikkas are going way to far with the content of his promos this week.


Art Barr

*goes through a thang

Bangs, freestyle fellowship six tre and abstract unique slow lights..

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

East collie park's grwtest hits may have brought oigt to the phrase trap, or trap'n.
Yet,...
Trap music or gangsta rap with bass and horror movie score backed production sonically been around for way longer than that dungeon family record.
Plus it has been around longer.
than, when ti coined his original trap musick mixtape.
To secure a deal after getting dropped for the ugk slash mjg musical reggae all coast Hodge podgr called I'm serious.

Tip flair was limousine ridin and jet fly in this weekly greatly.
Yet, you nikkas are going way to far with ye content of his promos this week.


Art Barr

*goes through a thang

Bangs, freestyle fellowship six tre and abstract unique slow lights..

to be honest...i don't know whether to DAP you

or tell u to STFU.....cause i truly don't know WHAT THE FUKK U JUST SAID

 

[Art Barr]

to be honest...i don't know whether to DAP you

or tell u to STFU.....cause i truly don't know WHAT THE FUKK U JUST SAID

you are so quick to try to prove your word is bond.

Anyone who saw my post knows I had to re-edit.
Which was going on while you was bytch'n and moaning for being wrong.

TO further clarify,..trap rap is not new.
Real talk, trap rap is horrorcore production with street horror tale content.
Which could be found back as far as psk.
To esham, to da convicts, the grave diggaz, geto boys, bushwick bill[eastcoast], onyx, ugk, mjg, Dayton family, da convicts, cotton mouth kingz, ren's the alley, and freestyle fellowship.
Which was all compiled and packaged for popular culture emulation and larger consumption by ruthless records and bone and DJ uneek.
Which gave triple6, more exposure and a template for the mainstream after being underground to gain platinum relevance.

Trap is just a phrase from ATL landscape like Detroit saying jank that stuck.
After east coli park's greatest hits, from dungeon fam alum, coolbreeze.
Then was made popular,...
After ti was forced to regroup after being dropped.
On the mixtape called trap musick...

Trap rap is not specific to a region.
Regardless of what is said.
Plus,...the foundations of it are wide spread nationally as well.


Art Barr

Oh and btw,...
I will be awaiting my dap on both of my posts, as well.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

To esham, to da convicts, the grave diggaz, geto boys, bushwick[eastcoast], onyx, ugk, mjg, Dayton family, da convicts, cotton mouth kingz, ren's the alley, and freestyle fellowship.

After ti was forced to regroup after being dropped.
On the mixtape called trap musick...

Trap rap is not specific to a region.
Regardless of what is said.
Plus,...the foundations of it are wide spread nationally as well.


Art Barr

FUKK IS U TALM BOUT....wtf does mr. satanic verses Esham and all that horrocore stuff u talking about got to do with TRAP MUSIC???!?!

IT'S ABOUT "HUSTLING"..nothing more nothing less than dealing with underclass people creating thier OWN ECONOMY...

the only reason you say it's NOT limited to a particular REGION

is because YOUR DUMB A$$ is NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS REGION (GEORGIA)

and ANY OLD ATL HEAD knows that DECATUR GEORGIA rap group

GHETTO MAFIA was the first to speak on the TRAP on wax..............THAT IS WHERE T.I got that infuence from....

After LAFACE fukked up his direction and sound on his first lp

"IM SERIOUS"......

T.I simply wanted to rep the REAL "A" so he focused on what the streets of ATL including the swats, riverdale and decatur is about which is THE TRAP

it's clear you don't know WTF your talking about cause you referred to TRAP MUZIK as a MIXTAPE

IT WAS HIS SECOND ALBUM YOU PHATHEAD INCOHERENT PSUEDO-INTELLECUTAL!!!

 

[28 Gramz]

Same thing they said with NY and boom bap street content. People swore up and down that NY street rap would stay popular forever, but it died out. What can potentially kill the popularity of trap rap is what the 10-17 years olds are listening to. If the South has their Kanye West (highly successful artist that came from the burbs with a unique fashion taste), then the trap rappers are gonna be starving in a few years. Every decade around the 3rd to 4th year brings in a massive change.

That grimey Ny sound only lasted from about 92-96..then Diddy glossed the shyt up with 80's pop samples and jiggy rap..Swizz,Timbo and Rockwilder turned east coast rap over with the keyboard
sound..Kanye,RZA,Just,Heatmakerz brought soul back and really that was the last DOMINANT NY sound they had. In 2003 50 Cent's/G-unit success was based mostly on the style Dre perfected on 2001 and they've been biting the south ever since. The dominant sound in the south has been synth/bass heavy gangsta shyt since No Limit/36/CMR in the mid-late 90's..the sound has changed alot but the basic elements have always been there.

And as far as that last comment Lil Wayne aint from the burbs, but his whole approach in his prime was very anti-south/trap..he took over with an east coast inspired flow and doesn't really rap on traditional southern beats alot..add his gay fashion sense and overall emo autotune approach he was takin in 08-09 and he's the nikka you're talkin about, you could even go back to Andre 3000 circa Love Below.

 

[tremonthustler1]

shyt is horrible. Even R&B artists are singing over trap beats.

If Luther Vandross was alive, even he would have to sing over that garbage just to get radio play:


here and nowwwwww...*stuttering hi hats and snares*...i promise to love faithfullyyyyyyyyy.......















































































Mike Will Made It

*hears

"Cause your love is allllllllllllll I neeeeeeeeeeeedddddddd"

over the Lex Luger sound effect*

 

[Wild self]

That grimey Ny sound only lasted from about 92-96..then Diddy glossed the shyt up with 80's pop samples and jiggy rap..Swizz,Timbo and Rockwilder turned east coast rap over with the keyboard
sound..Kanye,RZA,Just,Heatmakerz brought soul back and really that was the last DOMINANT NY sound they had. In 2003 50 Cent's/G-unit success was based mostly on the style Dre perfected on 2001 and they've been biting the south ever since. The dominant sound in the south has been synth/bass heavy gangsta shyt since No Limit/36/CMR in the mid-late 90's..the sound has changed alot but the basic elements have always been there.

And as far as that last comment Lil Wayne aint from the burbs, but his whole approach in his prime was very anti-south/trap..he took over with an east coast inspired flow and doesn't really rap on traditional southern beats alot..add his gay fashion sense and overall emo autotune approach he was takin in 08-09 and he's the nikka you're talkin about, you could even go back to Andre 3000 circa Love Below.

yeah, the rap game always had them other-dressing rappers from back then. If you remember back in 07-2010, the trap sound was everywhere and the 808s was standard production. After the likes of Kendrick and J Cole blew up, trap rap has fallen back a bit in the club scene, and the techno garbage has taken its place, which is the reason why even the likes of Waka Flocka and Nicki Minaj are making techno records now.

Trap rap is dying, slowly but surely. Its gonna go back to the streets and its gonna remain there. There is a new age of artists that are dying to get that break to show off their unique talents.

 

[jadillac]

It's slowly going away, but when peopel like Kanye started jumping on remixes and even semi-trap tracks, it's allowed it to stick aroudn a bit longer than it should.

Once Lil Wayne, and Ross start rapping on different stuff it'll fade away.

There's a whole generation of producers though with no knowledge of anything outside of trap beats.

Whoever has a huge hit off something that isn't trap influenced, or overly pop influenced is gonna dictate the next direction.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Another thing is we must clarify are we talking about the SUBJECT MATTER of TRAP MUSIC or "the SOUND/BEATS"?!?!?

Because to be honest..TRAP MUSIC doesn't have a PARTICULAR SOUND..

it's constantly evolved since Ghetto Mafia first spoke on it up until now with the Gucci's and the Jeezy's....

Ghetto Mafia for instance spoke about the track over very soulful tracks....alot of Al Green and Willie Hutch basslines...

so fukk what all yall hip hop "purists" and sound scientists feel..

TRAP MUSIC IS AN ART..and is WORTHY OF HAVING IT'S PLACE IN HIP HOP!



^^^^how can u hate on that shyt!!!!!?!!

i remember riding out with my brother in his cutlass supreme on trues and vogues with the gottdamn headliner falling down on our heads and shyt , and no insurance

ahhh the good times

 

[Wild self]

It's slowly going away, but when peopel like Kanye started jumping on remixes and even semi-trap tracks, it's allowed it to stick aroudn a bit longer than it should.

Once Lil Wayne, and Ross start rapping on different stuff it'll fade away.

There's a whole generation of producers though with no knowledge of anything outside of trap beats.

Whoever has a huge hit off something that isn't trap influenced, or overly pop influenced is gonna dictate the next direction.

There is a generation that knows nothing about 90s artists outside of Jay's and Puff's mainstream singles. There are some kids that think that Nas is some kind of preacher . There are people that know absolutely nothing about Kool G Rap or KRS. Trap music in the club is all they know. They have no real culture to rep. That is what happens when you get beats like that shoved down our throats in the last 10 years in the mainstream.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

There is a generation that knows nothing about 90s artists outside of Jay's and Puff's mainstream singles. There are some kids that think that Nas is some kind of preacher . There are people that know absolutely nothing about Kool G Rap or KRS. Trap music in the club is all they know. They have no real culture to rep. That is what happens when you get beats like that shoved down our throats in the last 10 years in the mainstream.

and why SHOULD THEY HAVE TO KNOW??

Why should they HAVE to know about Nas ESCOBAR when they got the "TRAP ESCOBARS" of today???

Why should they HAVE to know about Kool G. Rap and the Road to the Riches..when they got TRAP RAPPERS constantly trying to "ride" on that Road to the Riches???

Why should they even have to know about KRS ONE speak about the "puzzy is free cause the CRACK cost money" when we all have learned from todays TRAP RAPPERS that PUZZY comes EASILY when u got that COKE MONEY....


My point is NONE OF THOSE "RAPPERS" you stated had ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT TO SAY DURING THIER DECADENT CRIMINAL MINDED COKE RAPPING STAGE........

AT THE END OF THE DAY....THEY INCLUDING THE BELOVED WUTANG WERE ALL RAPPING ABOUT SELLING DOPE

JUST BECAUSE THEY CAME OFF COMPLEX AND USED MULTIS DON'T MEAN THEY WERE SUPERIOR OR EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT.....

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT TIME ...DIFFERENT LOCATION....THAT YOUR HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME DEALING WITH....


HIP HOP CHANGED...BUT YOU REFUSE TO CHANGE WITH IT....

 

[Wild self]

and why SHOULD THEY HAVE TO KNOW??

Why should they HAVE to know about Nas ESCOBAR when they got the "TRAP ESCOBARS" of today???

Why should they HAVE to know about Kool G. Rap and the Road to the Riches..when they got TRAP RAPPERS constantly trying to "ride" on that Road to the Riches???

Why should they even have to know about KRS ONE speak about the "puzzy is free cause the CRACK cost money" when we all have learned from todays TRAP RAPPERS that PUZZY comes EASILY when u got that COKE MONEY....


My point is NONE OF THOSE "RAPPERS" you stated had ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT TO SAY DURING THIER DECADENT CRIMINAL MINDED COKE RAPPING STAGE........

AT THE END OF THE DAY....THEY INCLUDING THE BELOVED WUTANG WERE ALL RAPPING ABOUT SELLING DOPE

JUST BECAUSE THEY CAME OFF COMPLEX AND USED MULTIS DON'T MEAN THEY WERE SUPERIOR OR EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT.....

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT TIME ...DIFFERENT LOCATION....THAT YOUR HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME DEALING WITH....


HIP HOP CHANGED...BUT YOU REFUSE TO CHANGE WITH IT....

Hip Hop changed, but certainly the quality went down. I mean, why are rappers flooding the streets with mixtape after mixtape every damn month? What happened to the Hip Hop classic that now comes in far and few in between? Why are rappers having 360 deals and make even less money than independent rappers now? You understand what I mean when the money dries up and you left with a generation of trap rappers on youtube, talking about the "good ol days" like Beanie Sigel.