Why I have a problem with white rappers.

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Logic's problem is his lack of actual SONGS.

Dude just raps for the sake of rapping. Dude can't create "moments"

I still bump Young Sinatra: WTF, from time to time. But I haven;t had a white rapper BLOW me away since Em tbh
 

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Macklemore went completely against the grain though. Rapping about second hand clothes and accepting gays. How can you say he's jacking the culture when that shyt is the opposite of what is normal in hip hop? Duke ain't Riff Raff.
 

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I'm Indian (India) and I think white and black people are very similar, ya'll party the same, are flamboyant and flash the scene. I don't know why blacks and whites hate each other when they have the same personality. I hate white people and I hate black people, Asian (Indians and Chinks) should be the standard.
 

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I'm Indian (India) and I think white and black people are very similar, ya'll party the same, are flamboyant and flash the scene. I don't know why blacks and whites hate each other when they have the same personality. I hate white people and I hate black people, Asian (Indians and Chinks) should be the standard.

1: How you get that rep in a week :lupe:

2: Tempted to grant my first neg for this gibberish :lupe:
 

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:why: The best white rappers bar em n the beasties have always stayed underground tho

:beli:Elvis made dope music too, don't front, I know he just bit but the songs stay great.
:ufdup:If you really wanna talk black innovation in rock music whatchall know about Death's 1975 LP "For The Whole World To See"? predated Bad Brains-style hardcore by almost a decade :wow:

Also I'm a euro-cac :umad:

Okay, Death was influential, no doubt about that but you're not entirely on point..

Los Saicos (a band from Peru) pre dated both of them. pre dates Death by a decade.

 

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The difference between rock then and hip hop now is that black artists are still by far the majority of the popular artists and are still the "face" of hip hop. Where back then in rock, white radio wouldn't play black music for obvious reasons so the white artists would cover the songs, soften it up for the white crowd (and their parents) and the black artists who did it first would get left in the dust unknown to 95% of the public.

Now it's starting to change a bit but even tho Macklemore has hits and Iggy gets an unfair push to the front, their albums aren't selling the world on fire, they're ultimately not gonna be here that long. Em is the only white rapper besides the Beasties that has held a long term career in hip hop.
 

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Which is what became Rock & Roll.

Berry took country and made it more "jiggier" and that's what makes him the Architect of Rock and Roll.



nikka,...
country is derived from the blues.
the fukk'n blues is not derived from fukk'n country.
we invented that shyt, too.


what are you talembout......
with all this chuck berry was more influenced by a country artist.
a country artist is a white wannabe blues artist, just like rock n roll is another form of electric guitar lead blues.
you could not even tell me why a bar stool was a luxury item from that time in the blues era

you tweaked't breh,....
i can't believe you tried to check someone about where the blues came from.
the blues came from country.

like what the fukk,.........
berry took blues and added his distinct amalgamation to it, first.
that is how his electrified blues got named rock and roll.
then, taken from him, breh.

what are you saying.....

it is like someone trying to say hendrix is not a blues guitar player.
as rock n roll is the fukk'n blues and country never made the fukk'n blues, nikka.




art barr
 

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I wanna start off my saying that I'M NOT RACIST. My grandmother is a white woman, and I love her more than I love most things. But I have a problem with white rappers because I feel like we've seen this before. You ever notice how some white rappers are TRASH as fukk ( Not all, Em is a beast ) , and the media gives them that extra push? If any other female rapper makes that song "Fancy" by Iggy, that shyt isn't going anywhere. Anybody else makes "Thrift Shop" by Macklemore, that shyt isn't going anywhere. They get an extra push by the media and they adopt urban culture and we accept it. It isn't reciprocated though. There's no way you'll EVER see a highly successful country music star. Even artists like Justin Bieber adopt our culture, and then disrespect it. We've seen this before in a genre. Where you ask? ROCK MUSIC.

Who are these guys?
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That's Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and Jackie Brenston. Yet when people talk Rock N Roll history, they bring up Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Elvis, etc. These guys are never mentioned. These guys are pioneers/originators of Rock and Roll. Yet today, when we hear Rock N Roll, it's considered "white music". Now I myself don't go by that, I listen to a lot of Alternative/Rock today still. Florence & The Machine is one of my favorite bands, and Florence Welch is a ginger white bytch

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but the problem with it is that somewhere along the line, it stopped being BLACK MUSIC, and then this guy showed up

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and got that extra push from the white media, and the rest is history. When you ask someone who the "King Of RocK" is, they are going to reply Elvis. If you ask an average person who invented Rock, they are going to say Elvis. Remind you, Pure Untainted Rock music was around a good 25 years before he got into to it . If you turn on your TV to any Rock Awards, Watch The Grammys, or go look inside the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame. 95% of the acts are white. The kids of our generation HARDLY touch Rock music. And this all happened over a 70 year span. Rock got completely white washed. It was music of blacks. Music of the struggle. Rock started off as blues. And if you looked around today, you wouldn't even think that.

One thing that people forget is how young Hip Hop/Rap is. It's such a young genre of music. Maybe a solid 30 years of true Hip Hop. People making careers out of Hip Hop. Etc. Who's to say 60 years from now, the same thing won't happen to rap? Why is it that the biggest songs (some that are terrible) are FORCED on radio to promote white artists? :yeshrug:Look how fast they get big. Look how Macklemore's TRASH album, dominated the Grammys, and won over one of the greatest Hip Hop categories, and won over a certified classic in Good Kid M.A.A.D city.
This shyt is all just history repeating itself. Rap hasn't been around that long and already you see the White Washing taking place. My biggest fear is turning on a Hip Hop Awards show in 30 years and seeing this
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I think twice before I FULLY support white rappers. And it ain't because they all trash, it's because some of them aren't as good as the media tries to make them out to be. And I'm not trying to have some people who don't even fully understand out culture, rule it again. Open your eyes brehs. It can happen, it already did once, and it can happen again. I'm out this bytch

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I usually find these kinds of posts mad ignorant and short sighted....

But got dam if you didnt lay down a very good post and reasoning as to your position. Well fukking said. I dont hate white artists....i liked Eminem old shyt and his underground stuff...Beastie Boys...the usuals, but white artists never really grasped my attention like that.
 

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The difference between rock then and hip hop now is that black artists are still by far the majority of the popular artists and are still the "face" of hip hop. Where back then in rock, white radio wouldn't play black music for obvious reasons so the white artists would cover the songs, soften it up for the white crowd (and their parents) and the black artists who did it first would get left in the dust unknown to 95% of the public.

Now it's starting to change a bit but even tho Macklemore has hits and Iggy gets an unfair push to the front, their albums aren't selling the world on fire, they're ultimately not gonna be here that long. Em is the only white rapper besides the Beasties that has held a long term career in hip hop.


this was dope.
yet, the threadstarter, is dead on is question why with his thread.

the thread starter made a great thorough opening post,..

completely bulletproof and dead on....
he was accurrate in his questioning of what the situation is.



art barr
 

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nikka,...
country is derived from the blues.
the fukk'n blues is not derived from fukk'n country.
we invented that shyt, too.


what are you talembout......
with all this chuck berry was more influenced by a country artist.
a country artist is a white wannabe blues artist, just like rock n roll is another form of electric guitar lead blues.
you could not even tell me why a bar stool was a luxury item from that time in the blues era

you tweaked't breh,....
i can't believe you tried to check someone about where the blues came from.
the blues came from country.

like what the fukk,.........
berry took blues and added his distinct amalgamation to it, first.
that is how his electrified blues got named rock and roll.
then, taken from him, breh.

what are you saying.....

it is like someone trying to say hendrix is not a blues guitar player.
as rock n roll is the fukk'n blues and country never made the fukk'n blues, nikka.




art barr

Country is derivative from the Blues.

I thought I made that clear but maybe I didn't go far enough into history to make that clear?

I was speaking where Rock & Roll came from. I'm sorry you misunderstood that.

Hendrix was a blues rock guitarist if there ever was one. Otherwise Clapton wasn't.
 
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