Why is it mostly whites in MMA/Martial Arts gyms?

[Cynic]

Who the fukk you gonna fight that necessitates the need to actually go to Thailand and train. Sagat? M. Bison?

This is funny but you sir are a jackass

 

[Another Man]

True. I blame the The Ultimate Fighter Show and the Affliction Era for MMA getting it's neckbeard Proud Boy bro image. Before TUF MMA was not very popular in North America. I was paying attention heavy since the late 90's. After TUF everybody swore they "trained UFC", then the Affliction t-shirts came out and forgetaboutit.

Even in the early days of MMA there have been talented black athletes (mostly wrestlers). Kevin Jackson was an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling and won the UFC 12 middleweight tournament. Mike Van Arsdale was another freak athlete from the early days of MMA.

Dont forget OSU hall of famer and MMA legend Kevin Randleman(RIP)
His fight against Bas Rutten is still one of the biggest robberies in combat sports till this day. Bas didnt deserve the strap.

 

[saturn7]

Dont forget OSU hall of famer and MMA legend Kevin Randleman(RIP)
His fight against Bas Rutten is still one of the biggest robberies in combat sports till this day. Bas didnt deserve the strap.

I didn't mean to forget Randleman, lol. He came in near the end of the old pre-Zuffa era and was UFC champ.

Dude was a beast but he refused to work on submissions. He could get takedowns all day and then do nothing with them. But he should've got the decision over Bas.

Mo Smith was the rare stand up fighter that won the UFC heavyweight championship. He won it by countering wrestling but then he lost his title to wrestling.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

Heavyweight (Up to 265 pounds)

Stipe Miocic
• Won title: August 18, 2018
• Outcome: TKO4 over Daniel Cormier (UFC 241)
• Defenses: 0

Light heavyweight (205)

Jon Jones
• Won title: Dec. 29, 2018
• Outcome: TKO3 over Alexander Gustafsson (UFC 232)
• Defenses: 2

Middleweight (185)

Israel Adesanya
• Won title: Oct. 6, 2019
• Outcome: TKO2 over Robert Whittaker (UFC 243)
• Defenses: 0

Welterweight (170)

Kamaru Usman
• Won title: March 2, 2019
• Outcome: UD over Tyron Woodley (UFC 235)
• Defenses: 0

Lightweight (155)

Khabib Nurmagomedov
• Won title: April 7, 2018
• Outcome: UD over Al Iaquinta (UFC 223)
• Defenses: 2

Men's featherweight (145)

Max Holloway
• Won title: June 3, 2017
• Outcome: TKO3 over Jose Aldo (UFC 212)
• Defenses: 3

Men's bantamweight (135)

Henry Cejudo
• Won title: June 8, 2019
• Outcome: TKO3 over Marlon Moraes (UFC 238)
• Defenses: 0

Men's flyweight (125)

Henry Cejudo
• Won title: Aug. 4, 2018
• Outcome: SD over Demetrious Johnson (UFC 227)
• Defenses: 1

Women's featherweight (145)

Amanda Nunes
• Won title: Dec. 29, 2018
• Outcome: TKO1 over Cris Cyborg (UFC 232)
• Defenses: 0

Women's bantamweight (135)

Amanda Nunes
• Won title: July 9, 2016
• Outcome: SUB1 over Miesha Tate (UFC 200)
• Defenses: 4

Women's flyweight (125)

Valentina Shevchenko
• Won title: Dec. 8, 2018
• Outcome: UD over Joanna Jedrzejczyk (UFC 231)
• Defenses: 2

Strawweight (115)

Zhang Weili
• Won title: Aug. 31, 2019
• Outcome: TKO1 over Jessica Andrade (UFC Shenzhen)
• Defenses: 0





Obviously it aint paying off much for em

 

[Cuban Pete]

Yea mma gyms are expensive as fukk. I went to one the other day and they said 160 a month

Meanwhile they got legit boxing gyms out here 60 a month no contract

Catch these hands and if it comes to wrassling then catch these balas papi

 

[Another Man]

I didn't mean to forget Randleman, lol. He came in near the end of the old pre-Zuffa era and was UFC champ.

Dude was a beast but he refused to work on submissions. He could get takedowns all day and then do nothing with them. But he should've got the decision over Bas.

Mo Smith was the rare stand up fighter that won the UFC heavyweight championship. He won it by countering wrestling but then he lost his title to wrestling.

Randleman wouldve been damn near unstoppable if he stepped his submission game up. Dude almost literally killed Fedor and put prime Crocop to sleep. He had all the tools but really limited himself by sticking with Hammer house. I understand loyalty and such but theres nothing wrong with training with others to diversify your skillset. Gotta say that for him to do as much as he did being almost a pure wrestler def speaks volumes.

 

[Rekkapryde]

If you got the time and money, travel to the country of origin for awhile if your serious.

My homie went to Thailand for awhile to train Muy Thai.

my money still on @Mowgli

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

I'd watch my tone if i was you, YOU didn't train in MMA.

 

[Another Man]

Heavyweight (Up to 265 pounds)

Stipe Miocic
• Won title: August 18, 2018
• Outcome: TKO4 over Daniel Cormier (UFC 241)
• Defenses: 0

Light heavyweight (205)

Jon Jones
• Won title: Dec. 29, 2018
• Outcome: TKO3 over Alexander Gustafsson (UFC 232)
• Defenses: 2

Middleweight (185)

Israel Adesanya
• Won title: Oct. 6, 2019
• Outcome: TKO2 over Robert Whittaker (UFC 243)
• Defenses: 0

Welterweight (170)

Kamaru Usman
• Won title: March 2, 2019
• Outcome: UD over Tyron Woodley (UFC 235)
• Defenses: 0

Lightweight (155)

Khabib Nurmagomedov
• Won title: April 7, 2018
• Outcome: UD over Al Iaquinta (UFC 223)
• Defenses: 2

Men's featherweight (145)

Max Holloway
• Won title: June 3, 2017
• Outcome: TKO3 over Jose Aldo (UFC 212)
• Defenses: 3

Men's bantamweight (135)

Henry Cejudo
• Won title: June 8, 2019
• Outcome: TKO3 over Marlon Moraes (UFC 238)
• Defenses: 0

Men's flyweight (125)

Henry Cejudo
• Won title: Aug. 4, 2018
• Outcome: SD over Demetrious Johnson (UFC 227)
• Defenses: 1

Women's featherweight (145)

Amanda Nunes
• Won title: Dec. 29, 2018
• Outcome: TKO1 over Cris Cyborg (UFC 232)
• Defenses: 0

Women's bantamweight (135)

Amanda Nunes
• Won title: July 9, 2016
• Outcome: SUB1 over Miesha Tate (UFC 200)
• Defenses: 4

Women's flyweight (125)

Valentina Shevchenko
• Won title: Dec. 8, 2018
• Outcome: UD over Joanna Jedrzejczyk (UFC 231)
• Defenses: 2

Strawweight (115)

Zhang Weili
• Won title: Aug. 31, 2019
• Outcome: TKO1 over Jessica Andrade (UFC Shenzhen)
• Defenses: 0





Obviously it aint paying off much for em

And DC was champion before Stipe, and was the one who took it from him to begin with.
But....I think the issue here isnt with a lack of blacks as far as mma as a sport, but a lack of interest as far as cross training for self defense. Many blacks limit themselves to boxing and they need to step outside the box no pun.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

for what?

boxers make waay more money than the average dude in the UFC and it's not even close.

and not to mention, the sport is n't even really a sport, and I'm a fan of it.

And DC was champion before Stipe, and was the one who took it from him to begin with.
But....I think the issue here isnt with a lack of blacks as far as mma as a sport, but a lack of interest as far as cross training for self defense. Many blacks limit themselves to boxing and they need to step outside the box no pun.

 

[Another Man]

for what?

boxers make waay more money than the average dude in the UFC and it's not even close.

and not to mention, the sport is n't even really a sport, and I'm a fan of it.

Skim through a post, not read all of it then reply brehs. You clearly missed the point by miles. The fukk does money have to do with self defense?

 

[Mowgli]

Because for one it's expensive. Secondly there aren't a lot of MMA gyms in black neighborhoods. In fact there are very few to none,mostly on the none side

The pricing model alone means you're going to have mostly middle-class journeyman and hobbyists getting involved first and not true athletes

Because this is still a young art form it's going to take awhile for it to trickle into black neighborhoods as more black men and women become Masters and begin to spread around the country

Do you think a white man is going to go into I mostly black neighborhood to teach MMA and Brazilian jiu-jitsu. It's unlikely. Therefore our own masters must bring the art to where we are.

A lot of black American born fighters in MMA are college graduates, guys who grew up in white areas or were scouted during underground fights to be brought to a whute owned gym.

As more black people get involved with mixed martial arts this will change

 

[Master Teacher]

a lot of those mma gyms are garbage and unprofessional, and basically ripping off the customers not really teaching them shyt and people running them don't really know what they are doing

all the legit gyms got professionals with credentials coaching in them and they are few and far between

 

[Master Teacher]

And DC was champion before Stipe, and was the one who took it from him to begin with.
But....I think the issue here isnt with a lack of blacks as far as mma as a sport, but a lack of interest as far as cross training for self defense. Many blacks limit themselves to boxing and they need to step outside the box no pun.

what are you basing that one, boxing is a hard sport to get into, there's barely any boxing gyms at all let alone quality gyms

most of the mma gyms they call them mcdojos, they in their not teaching proper technique and the coaches don't have any real experience just ripping off their customers

you can learn how to wrestle in high school

Terrance Crawford was a wrestler, if his uncle who was also a wrestle didn't box, he would've had no way to get into boxing, thats the type of sport its, you gotta be brought it in to even know where to go

 

[Krisrunner2049]

If you got the time and money, travel to the country of origin for awhile if your serious.

My homie went to Thailand for awhile to train Muy Thai.

Yeah I was thinking of going to this MMA training camp in Phuket this summer