Why is it "womens choice" when it comes to abortion because its her body, but not for pregnancy ?

[wickedsm]

I don't think it's right to force anyone to become a dad. Too many women constantly decided to bring children into the world with no father. Yes I understand that nikkas should man up but I don't understand why men have zero say in what the future of the child will be.



I think that the way it should work is the mother should choose to abort or not since it is her body. But if she has the kid and the pop wishes to not be there that's on her.

so you agree with the system thats already in place then.
theres no law on any book any place that requires a man to see or interract with his offspring ever in his life.
court ordered visitation if for the non custodial parent to ensure that they have access to their child.
theres no penalty at all for the non custodial parent to choose not to be a parent in any way shape or form
except for financially.

as much as yall bytch on here about bytches living it up on welfare in section 8 housing i would think yall would agree that the male that helped create the baby should have to contribute financially to the childs upbringing and all of the burden shouldnt fall on the taxpayers no?

i dont want to work and pay taxes for Susie to sit on her ass and get high all day and i damn sure to want to pay taxes for Billy to just conveniently walk away every time hes too lazy to wear a condom and he gets caught.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Actually it's a shared responsibility when it comes to the child.
Nobody is gonna make the man carry the baby for 20 weeks
Or alternate pushing in the delivery room.

You guys can call it hypocritical or unfair. But it's just a fact biologically.

Men can't get pregnant.
Women can.

We ALL know where babies come from. If you guys don't want to get caught up in this whole "zomg it's so unfair that if she gets pregnant she is gonna be able to do what she wants and not what I want!"

Don't fukk then. Can't be a victim of these horrible unfair rules if you don't fukk or knock anybody up.

Sleep with people you know and trust. Only trust your birth control methods to yourself.
Feel free to get a vasectomy which is extremely easily reversible.

So its the woman's fault she gets pregnant, right?

 

[Gravity]

youre just saying random shyt right now.

Women get pregnant and carry babies.
this is NOT in any way shape or form some "unequal application of the law"
and i see where your mind is at that you think this is at all comparable to racial discrimination in the justice system
its not.
you know its not.

Black man arrested for drug possesion- felony and jail time
white man arrested for drug possession- treatment rehab and probation

woman gets pregnant and can decide whether to carry the pregnancy to term or abort
men get pregnant and dont get to choose?

do you see where that bullshyt doesnt work?

men cant get pregnant. when the time comes that men can get pregnant i 1000% support your right to also choose if you would like to carry to term or abort.

you claim this is a disvussion about the "inequality when it comes to parental rights and obligations "

thats not what this thread was about. this thread started out as a whine because oh boohoo women have all the choice to have an abortion.

i am a 2nd wife to a 2nd husband so i have actual lived experience being a custodial parent and a non custodial step parent.
if anyone actually wanted to discuss some of the inherent bias in the family court system and the horrors of Parental alienation i would be happy to do so. Thats that what this thread is about .

You did I all of this rambling and didn't even understand my point. In the post that I quoted your answer to those who complained about inequality in parental laws, rights, and obligations was "just don't get women in pregnant and you don't have to deal with the inequalities in the law". I asked you if you take that same attitude in reference to other types of inequalities in the law. I didn't say that inequalities in parental laws are the same as inequalities in criminal laws. A man having no rights to an unborn child but being 50% responsible for the child once it's born is an inequality in the law, and that's what the thread is about. From what I've seen your only response to that inequality is "just don't get women pregnant and you want have to deal with that inequality" which is the equaivalent of telling blacks "just don't get arrested and you want have to deal with inequalities in the justice system". Try again.

 

[.༼-◕_◕-༽.]

I don't think it's right to force anyone to become a dad. Too many women constantly decided to bring children into the world with no father. Yes I understand that nikkas should man up but I don't understand why men have zero say in what the future of the child will be.



I think that the way it should work is the mother should choose to abort or not since it is her body. But if she has the kid and the pop wishes to not be there that's on her.

If you don't want to risk an unwanted pregnancy, PLEASE fukk ANOTHER MAN. 100% foolproof

 

[#SOG_soldier]

so you agree with the system thats already in place then.
theres no law on any book any place that requires a man to see or interract with his offspring ever in his life.
court ordered visitation if for the non custodial parent to ensure that they have access to their child.
theres no penalty at all for the non custodial parent to choose not to be a parent in any way shape or form
except for financially.

as much as yall bytch on here about bytches living it up on welfare in section 8 housing i would think yall would agree that the male that helped create the baby should have to contribute financially to the childs upbringing and all of the burden shouldnt fall on the taxpayers no?

i dont want to work and pay taxes for Susie to sit on her ass and get high all day and i damn sure to want to pay taxes for Billy to just conveniently walk away every time hes too lazy to wear a condom and he gets caught.

Child support should not be mandated if he expressed to a judge that he wants her to abortt the child.

 

[StickStickly]

Something that is rarely ever looked at in these discussions is the lack of regard men hold for their own seeds. If more dudes put themselves and their seeds on a pedestal as much as they put the p*ssy on it, they wouldn't be out here impregnating women they don't see a future with. At the end of the day, it's totally up to you to protect yourself so you aren't bound to a woman you don't want for the rest of your life over a few moments of fun. Life isn't fair and you gotta be smart about the way you move out here. Chess,not checkers.

they don't want to do that, they grew up watching porn and listening to this music that makes them think pleasure is all there is. they think nothing should happen when they have sex with women and forget the whole sex is for procreating part. procreating becomes unnatural, they get angry when they see mothers breast feeding their babies or bodies that have been stretched and chained fem pregnancy. they want to have unlimited sexual power and want to blame the women for any consequences. they say they should have the ability to opt out of kids because they want to keep living that fantasy, and don't want to feel guilty that the living breathing product of a natural occurrence is growing up while they're on the other side of the city obsessing about new p*ssy to smash.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

If you don't want to risk an unwanted pregnancy, PLEASE fukk ANOTHER MAN. 100% foolproof

Or just fukk a woman with a condom on.

 

[wickedsm]

It obviously it is a men/women issue because you are making it as one. Everything I stated centers around both sexes. Not just benefiting one or the other. And if all the courts care about are financial responsibility why wouldn't a pay out work?

But I think I've seen a few of your post regarding men in other threads. So ima fall back

believe it or not i really dont want to see men or women trapped in these situations with unwanted children on either side.
the child is the one who suffers. I feel bad for the child and not either parent who spun that wheel and lost.

actually the payout idea isnt horrible, although i beleive in your post you mentioned for 8 years. I would want the child to be supported to adulthood. actually the CS systems that i have dealt with assigned CS based up a formula that took into account both parents earnings.
Im sure there can be better ways to tweak that system for instance the non custodial parent getting pymt credit for extra time or expense paid for to the child? [i can see potential issues with that too, but just throwing out ideas for non custodial parents who dont get as much credit for being a good parent even though they arent with the childs other parent]

theres ridiculous parties on either of the equation. Ive heard men bytch about paying $100 a month and you hear stories of these celeb jumpoffs like Breezys baby mama who think they are entitled to 20gs a month plus.

 

[wickedsm]

Child support should not be mandated if he expressed to a judge that he wants her to abortt the child.

oh okay. we should use the honor system then.
good plan.

 

[miranda]

No shyt at the bolded. But if I get a chick pregnant, whether accidentally or on purpose, I have zero say if she decides to terminate the pregnancy. It's 100% her choice. She can kill my child and I have 0 rights. That's absolutely wrong.

it happens, get over it


ladies NEVER tell them youre getting an abortion

 

[PeridotPuss]

A man having no rights to an unborn child but being 50% responsible for the child once it's born is an inequality in the law, and that's what the thread is about.

It's not an inequality as the unborn child is not carried by the male.

Once the child is born it's a citizen and minor, and subject to guardianship. Traditionally that has entailed the male and female that created the child.

The gymnastics nikkas are going through in this thread a situation where the woman's word is recognized as more valid than the mans gets yall riled up lol

 

[At30wecashout]

One way to take away a woman's choice: dont fukk her. Simple.

Folks wanna call dudes gay for not wanting to hit anything and everything, but p*ssy is p*ssy, but the mouth and brain attached to one or the other can lead to some mental anguish. Just say no.

 

[wickedsm]

Child support should not be mandated if he expressed to a judge that he wants her to abortt the child.

how are you gonna prove that you expressed that you wanted her to have this abortion?
[its got to be better than just your word and your mommas btw]
what if neither of you knew she was pregnant until after the time where abortion was safe and legal?
what if in the beggining everything is peaches and roses but yall break up at 4.5 months gestation because youre sick of her pregnant attitude?
do you get to demand she has an abortion at 6 months pregnant?
i need the parameters for this get out of parenthood free plan.


what if 5 years down the road youve grown up and want to be involved with your child?

 

[wickedsm]

One way to take away a woman's choice: dont fukk her. Simple.

Folks wanna call dudes gay for not wanting to hit anything and everything, but p*ssy is p*ssy, but the mouth and brain attached to one or the other can lead to some mental anguish. Just say no.

stop it!
youre not holding women responsible!

 

[HellRell804]

Why do you "men" spend endless hours arguing with women. Its totally counter productive. You'll never be able to see things from her view and vice versa because we are not equal. That being said, yea the child support laws are ridiculous but the women are right on this one. If you knock up a bird you need to accept the consequences of your actions like a man. The fact that so many of you "men" want the ability to abdicate responsibility like a woman is troubling. If you're supposed to be better act like it. Until then you're a female with a penis...