Why is Kanye getting a pass? Nas caught hell when he "sold out"

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He hasn't genuinely been the same since Graduation and his new shyt is soulless. Son went from being insecure to just straight up flossy like he should be on Ca$hmoney with Birdman.

Hip hop wouldn't let my nikka Nas live during The Firm, I'am, Nastra period.


nikkas are literally giving Kanye a pass with his lazy bars. (HE DOESNT EVEN PRODUCE HIS shyt ANYMORE)
 

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He has evovled... duh

What rapper with any type of career is talking about the same stuff from their 1st album on their 5th album.

Plus Kanye wasn't on some Nas like knowledge type shyt, e was name dropping Polo, Chains from jacob and sh!t on his first album.

#NewGodFlow >
 

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There was never a definitive Kanye sound. College Dropout is different than Late Registration, Graduation is different than Late Registration, 808s and Heartbreak is different from Graduation, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is different from 808s and Heartbreak. Kanye never sold out because he was always popular. All of his singles are popular and catch traction regardless of what album they are on and what they are about.
 

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thats because Nas from the beginning posited himself as a hip hop hustle street apostle living the grimey life

kanye never did and has always been about doing w/e the fukk he wants


I agree new Kanye is just boring and his versus are :flabbynsick:

Kanye was heavily influenced by Tribe, Blackstar, and Common at the beginning of his career. You could hear their influence in his music. Hell he even ran with the underground backpacking crew.

He used to give a shyt about his lyrical ability and would openly talk about trying to work on it.

Hes a pure shadow of himself at the moment. nikka sounds like everybody else. Not to mention he doesn't produce music like he used :yeshrug:
 

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There was never a definitive Kanye sound. College Dropout is different than Late Registration, Graduation is different than Late Registration, 808s and Heartbreak is different from Graduation, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is different from 808s and Heartbreak. Kanye never sold out because he was always popular. All of his singles are popular and catch traction regardless of what album they are on and what they are about.

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The heavy soul samples is the correlation between College Dropout & Late Registration. He actually produced those albums and relied heavy on features to enhance his production.

The change began with Graduation but even that joint is dope. Kanye does have an original sound. You hear it in his older albums. I don't know what the fukk I hear now
 

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Nas Carried The Cross for the rest of these rappers to shine and floss


"Much Success to you/even if you wish me the opposite/ sooner or later we'll ALL see who the prophet is"

:mjpls: I don't know what your trying to say but I know Hip Hop wasn't kind to Nas between 97-2000

Seems like Kanye has regressed by leaps and bounds and nobody has called him on it
 

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[ame=http://youtu.be/4o9AwFyosRM]Kanye West Feat GLC & Consequence - Spaceship - Official Music Video (Good Quality) - YouTube[/ame]

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how do we go from that to this garbage below

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There was a point somewhere between Late Registration and Graduation that Kanye was producing :wow: :ahh:. If he's evolved his sound, that's cool but his production and lyrics are no where near as good as his old stuff. It's almost like he's a different person with the same name if you know what I'm saying?

The guy just doesn't seem anywhere near as humble in his interviews as he used to be and I don't like his arrogance or his pretentiousness any more. I thought it was a phase but it looks like it's here to stay and it's just annoying and makes him look like an a$$hole 90% of the time IMO.

http://youtu.be/qvO--m44NnM

What happened?
 

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He never sold out.

I hung out with the guy in early 2003 before anyone knew he rapped except only the most hardcore heads. People knew he did beats, that was about it. He genuinely believed he was the biggest superstar on earth. he would play songs from the early version of College Dropout and then say, "That was one of the best songs in music history, we need to hear that again" and hit the repeat button and play it over.

When he was recording I See Now with Little Brother he kept having to stop at this one part where he ran out of breathe. Eventually Phonte or someone jokingly called him on it and he said, "My music is timeless it's supposed to take my breathe away!"

He always thought he was a star man. When Talib brought him on tour (Kanye's first time being an opener for a big act) Kanye did wild shyt like rolling out in a wheelchair then jumping out when the Takeover beat came on rapping crazy. On the College Dropout tour he would play the first 10 seconds of Lucifer 2 or 3 times in a row just to let the crowd hear Jay-Z say "Kanye you did it again you a genius!".

The guy has always been crazy as fukk.
 
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:mjpls: I don't know what your trying to say but I know Hip Hop wasn't kind to Nas between 97-2000

Seems like Kanye has regressed by leaps and bounds and nobody has called him on it

And yet Nas has weathered the storm and is about to drop his TENTH album with all of hip hop waiting with bated breath...

Nas went through a lot of adversity, but his own personal vision of what he wanted to be at the time has helped shape him into the artist he obviously wants to be NOW. People who criticized him back then are going back praising his work , which leads to an increased appreciation for him as an artist NOW and the high level to which he's sustained. Nas took the brunt of that criticism so that artists like Kanye West can switch up thier style and not be pigeonholed into a particular box, they can create freely.
 
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