Why Is School Compulsory?

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Either way some kids will lose/be punished.
Good kids with good parents will lose when their child gets caught up with the troubled kids...

I'd love to see a study on the number of kids that fell from grace after getting caught up in the "wrong crowd".

Right, either way some kids will lose/be punished.

What I need you to tell me is how making school optional would punish those kids any less.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

It shouldnt be compulsory.

Exactly....There should be several competing systems and people vote with their feet...Back in the day they had systems way more successful than the Prussian model
and today some models like the Montessori model show alot of potential but the forced standardization to common core just trashes their results in the end

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Bruh, a lot of people dont even have skills. So lets not get ahead of ourselves. Some of ya'll are coming at this backwards right now.

Feudalism would be preferential? No?

 

[DEAD7]

Right, either way some kids will lose/be punished.

What I need you to tell me is how making school optional would punish those kids any less.

In my opinion we have a parenting problem not necessarily a school problem.

Removing the mandate places responsibility directly on the parents and removes the state as the scapegoat.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Well in the future these 'responsible people' will be replaced by sophisticated robots who will take their jobs.



I don't think anyone here is advocating 'less education'. Just simply a different model. Home schooled kids tend to be more educated than people who've gone through the prison-esque K-12 indoctrination:

Homeschoolers Creaming Other Students on the SAT
https://fee.org/articles/homeschoolers-creaming-other-students-on-the-sat/

Home schooling is irrelevant to 99% of kids as that's about the percentage of kids who don't have a parent who doesn't work. You might as well say "everyone should just eat expensive organic food"

Any normal human being would despise school simply because it's a torturous experience. Children all have a natural curiosity -- a hunger for knowledge. Have you ever had a child come up to you and bombard you with questions? Children are natural philosphers -- they want to learn. As soon as they step foot inside of a school their curiosity is killed.

I am still curious after suffering through a K-12 education.

Look I'm not saying K-12 education is ideal, but if you guys want to scrap it you have to present some realistic alternatives. "Let kids go at their own pace with Youtube classes" "Single parents should quit their jobs and home school from homeless shelters" You dudes sound fukking ridiculous right now.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You assume they didnt ...

It took me years of reading ,research and consuming some mind altering herbal remedies to shake that shyt off....thats how i know how much damage is being done to these kids natural intuition,creativity and intellectual curiosity....

Do you know calculus though?

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Where'd you learn how to read?

Red herring fallacy...
But since you brought it up a cursory Glance at most public schools would show you how bad they fail to teach even basic literacy these days..

a CNN article also pointed out that there are many college athletes are functionally illiterate. Indeed, it’s been estimated that 19% of high school graduates fall into that category.

And thats after 12 years and doesnt count the dropouts

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Do you know calculus though?

Indeed i do

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

In my opinion we have a parenting problem not necessarily a school problem.

Removing the mandate places responsibility directly on the parents and removes the state as the scapegoat.

Again, phrased differently, how would this change result in more kids being better educated? Or should that not be a goal of society, even in the face of its benefits?

You realize people immigrate to the US solely for their kids to get our "awful" K-12 education because what you propose is in their countries and doesn't work, right?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Red herring fallacy...
But since you brought it up a cursory Glance at most public schools would show you how bad they fail to teach even basic literacy these days..


And thats after 12 years and doesnt count the dropouts

Not a red herring..... you would not have even been able to cleanse your mental palate without the tools given to you by public school. So off the rip it was a net benefit to you.

 

[PikaDaDon]

Look I'm not saying K-12 education is ideal, but if you guys want to scrap it you have to present some realistic alternatives. "Let kids go at their own pace with Youtube classes" "Single parents should quit their jobs and home school from homeless shelters" You dudes sound fukking ridiculous right now.

I don't think it should be scrapped. But it should be optional and not compulsory. If parents want to send their kids to school then that's fine. If they don't want to send their kids to prison...eh...I mean school then that should be fine too.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I don't think it should be scrapped. But it should be optional and not compulsory. If parents want to send their kids to school then that's fine. If they don't want to send their kids to prison...eh...I mean school then that should be fine too.

Do you plan on having kids? If so how do you plan on educating them?

And you do realize the very fact that kids are getting home schooled = it is optional and not compulsory, right? How can anyone get home schooled if regular K-12 education is compulsory?

Critical thinking is completely absent from the anti-K-12 camp. The irony is overwhelming.

 

[PikaDaDon]

Do you plan on having kids?

Of course. Gotta continue my bloodline.

If so how do you plan on educating them?

Self-directed home schooling. Some people call it 'unschooling'

And you do realize the very fact that kids are getting home schooled = it is optional and not compulsory,
right? How can anyone get home schooled if regular K-12 education is compulsory?

I don't plan on having my kids set foot inside of a school at all (unless they want to).

Critical thinking is completely absent from the anti-K-12 camp. The irony is overwhelming.

We're just having a conversation here. It's okay to disagree with one another. Not sure why you're going for personal insults. Next you'll say I'll be abusing my future kids and I'm unfit to be a parent. Maybe even call CPS on me like people do to so many homeschooling parents.

 

[DEAD7]

Again, phrased differently, how would this change result in more kids being better educated? Or should that not be a goal of society, even in the face of its benefits?

You realize people immigrate to the US solely for their kids to get our "awful" K-12 education because what you propose is in their countries and doesn't work, right?

Over time I think It would result in more involved parents and a higher percentage of the citizenry transitioning into functioning adults.

Again i think what we face is a parenting problem not an education problem, and focusing on the number of kids graduating is how we have let parents of the hook all this time.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Not a red herring..... you would not have even been able to cleanse your mental palate without the tools given to you by public school. So off the rip it was a net benefit to you.

Indeed...I didnt say i gained nothing from it...i learned a few good things..Enough to work a cash register,operate machinery at a factory or apply to a college for some further indoctrination.
They also taught me how to be part of a herd..stay in line..dont be disruptive..sit quietly for hours..... I have to say for a 12 year project thats not much


The question is what they didn't want me to learn..Like how to think....analyse..find truth..Understand how the world really works...how to properly research..

and what they took away from me in the process of "standardization"..creativity....intuition....individualism