Why Is The Default Subject Matter For Rap....Violence Against Another Black Man?

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Lemme stop you here again with this lie, because it is a lie:


C.Delores Tucker’s problem(s) with Gangsta Rap were:

1. It was obscene and violent toward Black women. Just the women.
And the “violence” she referenced most was about the language.
She didn’t give a damn about the violence toward Black men.
Out of her own mouth, she declared the last straw for her was the comic book artwork in Doggystyle…

so not even the music.

2. She had a (literal) share in it.
As a person with shares in TimeWarner (Warner Bros./Elektra/Eastwest/Atlantic/Interscope)
She had some control/influence over the product.

So if you wanna argue she was right, you gotta at least show her real position.
You're revising the story a bit.

Topic has been discussed in great detail plenty of times here

 

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You're revising the story a bit.

Topic has been discussed in great detail plenty of times here


No - I’m actually saying what she said at the infamous press conference.

It’s everybody else revising the story “a bit”, by talking around things she said or giving their own opinion of what they think she meant.
 

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Anyway, to answer the question:

Our Default setting is to be against each other anyway.
 

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Two reasons.
1. We limit ourselves. Outside of violence I could barely tell who's rapping cause everyone sounds the same. No different than every other black movie is hood, hood comedy, or romance. Yet we support the same narrative.

2. It's what's allowed by the people who run the industry who's often not black. Blacks killing blacks is widely acceptable and they turn around and say that's what's going on. Yet if a rapper raps about killing a slum jewish landlord it wouldn't even make out the studio. Our distruction has been entertainment for a look of people. Just like now the black men versus women gender wars is the primary topico black podcasts.
 

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If you peep the trajectory of Hip Hop, there's always been tough talk but NWA was a pivot point.

They BLEW UP with that shyt and suddenly all record companies were signing only gangsta rap.

Even Biggie, Wu, Nas and all them are essentially gangsta rap.

Now people like it that these dudes are actually killing each other..

Same way the news is full of violence and misery I guess.

Before Hip Hop became a gigantic industry, there were 99 types of rap. Kid N Play. Queen Latifah. Biz Markie. PE. Then the other 98 types went underground and gangsta rap overtook the whole landscape
Yup NWA was the catalyst
The irony all them dudes were squares except Eazy
 

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1. It was obscene and violent toward Black women. Just the women.

She didn’t give a damn about the violence toward Black men.

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Tucker goes further: "The white music industry has always denigrated the black community. White corporate America has always feared the black male. It wants to suggest black males are inhuman thugs. That way they can justify their oppression."



Again, this is an old argument. Your take is based on what you want to believe, rather than the facts. I could dig and find 5, 10, 15, 20 Tucker quotes specifically about Black males being projected in ugly brute stereotypes by corporations and the goal posts would move at each step, likely.
 

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Tucker goes further: "The white music industry has always denigrated the black community. White corporate America has always feared the black male. It wants to suggest black males are inhuman thugs. That way they can justify their oppression."



Again, this is an old argument. Your take is based on what you want to believe, rather than the facts. I could dig and find 5, 10, 15, 20 Tucker quotes specifically about Black males being projected in ugly brute stereotypes by corporations and the goal posts would move at each step, likely.

I stated “the facts”. What I said is verifiable.
You can watch that entire press conference on YouTube to see and hear everything I claimed.
She says what moved her to take action at that time, and it wasn’t concern for Black males’ lives.

And did you read that article? Every point she made was female-first.
 

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We've known this for 20+ years. Nothing has changed . Nothing will change.
 

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Unfortunately because we have labeled hip hop as something for younger people, old heads input goes on deaf ears because the argument is "you had the same topics in your music" so any progress is stopped because now it seems like we are "hating" on their generation.
 
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