Why is the immigration such a big issue currently

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It's something that has been happening for a while, is there something else I don't know about?
1. Elections are coming up
2. Republicans lost the hispanic vote damn near completely
3. Repbulicans think that by taking immigration off the table they'll win some latino votes
4. Democrats feel complacent in the support of the AA community so they focus more on on the latino vote. ...Think of the latino vote as a battleground state.
 

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Its all about elections. Texas gubernatorial is coming this fall and the Repubs are scared of Wendy Davis. So they are playing the Central American angle hard. They are playing the tough on Obama card as hard as they can. They are playing the "burden on the system" card as hard as they can. The Repubs are hoping this will fracture the huge Mexican-American vote in Texas as well as appeal to other emigrants and immigrants from overseas who have to follow the system. This is being countered by the view that this is a humanitarian crisis and that the law should simply deal with it with common sense and compassion. I'm surprised and proud of my fellow Texans who are looking at this with common sense instead of falling for the Rick Perry rhetoric. He knows damn well this state doesn't work without the influx of cheap labor and that the real burden on the tax system falls elsewhere. Its a hard sell to legal immigrants as well, as many have had their own troubles with our immigration policies.

Basically, its a bunch of posturing.
 

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thats answer is just a copout by people that dont want to confront the negative impact of liberal immigration policies

Border state politicians are full of shyt. If you shut off the border cold, where would they get their cheap construction and contractor labor? Agricultural labor? They know this, and they know those taxes are recovered by the property taxes landowners pay. Same old song and dance.
 

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It is a bigger copout when people want free markets without free movement of labour.


there should be free movement of labour, that means governments have to sit down and work out an agreement just like they work out any other treaty

you cant have a free market when the governing rules are different for each market
 

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Border state politicians are full of shyt. If you shut off the border cold, where would they get their cheap construction and contractor labor? Agricultural labor? They know this, and they know those taxes are recovered by the property taxes landowners pay. Same old song and dance.

well lets shut down the border and see what happens
 

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well lets shut down the border and see what happens

We already saw what happens when border security is stepped up a few years ago. You had surpluses of crops in places like Texas, Florida and Alabama and not enough people to pick them, so they were begging people to come and pick their fruit as they couldn't get anyone to do it for what they were paying and it was taking up space in their field for the next crop. Housing starts went way down in states that weren't even seeing financial trouble. The labor shortage still continues to this day in Texas where they can't build houses quickly enough. So the rental markets are skyrocketing(more regulation on workers who build multifamily structures) and apartment building is booming, while new house construction can't keep up pace. A property tax state like Texas wants those single family home sales as they are more lucrative for smaller cities and more attractive to high wage workers.
 

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We already saw what happens when border security is stepped up a few years ago. You had surpluses of crops in places like Texas, Florida and Alabama and not enough people to pick them, so they were begging people to come and pick their fruit as they couldn't get anyone to do it for what they were paying and it was taking up space in their field for the next crop. Housing starts went way down in states that weren't even seeing financial trouble. The labor shortage still continues to this day in Texas where they can't build houses quickly enough. So the rental markets are skyrocketing(more regulation on workers who build multifamily structures) and apartment building is booming, while new house construction can't keep up pace. A property tax state like Texas wants those single family home sales as they are more lucrative for smaller cities and more attractive to high wage workers.

and? whats wrong with that?

this addiction to cheap labor is ruining the economy because it increases inequality
 

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and? whats wrong with that?

this addiction to cheap labor is ruining the economy because it increases inequality

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not bigging up cheap labor. I'm saying, this is what the conservative, border and southern states thrive on to keep a competitive advantage. Conservative business leaders want the inequality. It keeps costs down for them. I'm not for it, they are. They know that if the border is shut down they are the only losers. So they go on these rhetorical rants about how its hurting the common man. I was a contractor for a while. I know how that game worked. Same dudes yelling to put up a big wall at the border are the same ones paying welders $10/hr or paying their yard crew $15/month to do all their yard work.

Personally they can open it or shut it down. There are consequences and benefits to both, but its not the big deal they are making it except if you are talking about the danger to those kids. I'm glad to see people stepping up and not just trying to treat them like criminals.
 
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