Why is Tim Duncan never in the discussion?

[Malta]

One game more memorable than Duncan's whole season. Broke his kneecap due to the extreme stress of trying to save the most successful franchise in NBA history every year and the physics surrounding his incredible jump shot.

He's 100% now and has begun a journey to be ready to dunk on Duncan so hard he opens a portal sending him to another dimension.

@ 21pt 5rebs 4ast 1broken kneecap being more impressive than this -



Do you have any playoff footage the last two years that we can compare

 

[MoneyTron]

@ 21pt 5rebs 4ast 1broken kneecap being more impressive than this -



Do you have any playoff footage the last two years that we can compare

Yeah, he did it on a broken kneecap. What don't you understand? Kobe is a Tru Warier. Duncan is not.

No playoff highlights, Kobe sat out the season letting his teammates play for better contracts. So generous.

 

[Swagnificent]

Duncan is the gold standard for young bigs

too bad Embiid's favorite player is Kobe.

 

[Swagnificent]

can someone please explain the 2008 playoffs.

people say tim is more impactful, make his teammates better, and just a better player overall but he lost to Kobe. Kobe pulled the team from 2 +17 deficits to win the series 4-1. that dead the argument to me, it was obvious who was the more impactful player. there was nothing Tim could do to combat the scoring and determination of Kobe. Timmy, Tony, and Manu were all playing all all-star caliber that season too.

this. 2008 also deaded any Kobe/Timmy comparisons. both had comprable teams. hell i'd say timmy had more help since he had 2 all-stars beside him while kobe had only Gasol. Bynum was injured. And kobe beat the Spurs in 5 with two incredible comebacks as you said.

and lets not forget that was the DEFENDING CHAMPION spurs who just won the title the year before.

2008 all but proves Kobe is better than Duncan. he's owned him almost everytime they've played.

 

[Swagnificent]

He dethroned the Lakers in 2003

Just dethroned the two time champs with the best player in the world

New Jersey Nets, Cleveland Cavaliers, and New York Knicks weren't up to par of course. But it's not his fault

championship fatigue. Lakers were just tired. we can back in 04 and beat Timmy. word to D-fish.

 

[Swagnificent]

nope lets talk about 2008, the last time the two played each other. Tim was 31, Kobe was 29. teams were about equal. Lakers 4-1.

What's there to talk about?

You went from constantly talking about "5>4" to now being like "Hey, forget that, lets talk about what happened 6 years ago"

Kobe tore his Achilles last year to avoid the sweep

this dude is so lame. when he's pushed into a corner, he either tries to change the argument or call people names. 2008 should be the end of any kobe vs. timmy comparisons. both were still top 5-10 caliber players with comprable teams and Kobe took a big dump all over the Spurs. that there ended any kobe/timmy comparison for me.

 

[Swagnificent]

Yeah, let's act like Ginobili was healthy that series. He was playing on an ankle with a ligament swollen to 5 times its normal size. He could barely get his shoe on and he had surgery in the offseason on it and was in a walking boot right after the series. A player with lesser heart wouldn't have even suited up.

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=3559440&src=desktop

Or did you really think he got shut down by Sasha Vujacic?

Outside of the big 2 and 1/2, that Spurs squad was and garbage. They had Jacques Vaughn getting heavy minutes and fukking Ime Udoka trying to guard Kobe

kobe broke a finger on his shooting hand that season and had his fingers taped together, yet he still won MVP and led his team to the finals. stop with the excuses. if he was on the court he was ready to play.

and lets not act like Parker (the reigning finals MVP) wasn't there. Kobe only had one all-star on the team (Gasol) while Duncan had two.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

He's not as dynamic as Jordan, Magic, Kobe, Lebron...he's a big so the ball has to usually be given to him as opposed to him handling it like the others I mentioned. Also he doesn't have a 'big personality' like the others I mentioned so he kind of gets forgotten. Not saying I agree with all of these reasons, but these are some of the factors.

He's also not in a 'big market'

 

[malbaker86]

Kobe's last ring was 2010. You remember the Spurs in 2010? Nah me either. No one gonna talk about them a month from now either.

Tim was playing 25mpg. Those games don't even count. Pop had you out there like "More Timmy please"

He was semi retired since '08.

Your last sentence is far from the truth. since the 4th title won in 2007, he's averaged 17, 10, 3, 2, shot 50% from the field averaging just 30 minutes per game. I don't get this narrative y'all push like he just became Chris Dudley after 2007

 

[GunRanger]

@ 21pt 5rebs 4ast 1broken kneecap being more impressive than this -



Do you have any playoff footage the last two years that we can compare

Should have put his 23 pt 21 reb game that included the game winner

 

[MoneyTron]

Your last sentence is far from the truth. since the 4th title won in 2007, he's averaged 17, 10, 3, 2, shot 50% from the field averaging just 30 minutes per game. I don't get this narrative y'all push like he just became Chris Dudley after 2007

Not Chris Dudley, more John Salley. Just sitting on thr bench as Pop outsmarts everyone. TD just been along for the ride these last 7 seasons.

 

[KEEPITTRILLA]

Duncan with a weak supporting cast in 03- Championship ring, near quadruple double in clinching game 6 of the finals
Kobe with a weak supporting cast in 05/06/07- missing playoffs, first round exits






how many rings yall think Duncan could've won with Shaq? 30? 40? 100?

what about being on the same team as Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Ariza/Artest?

U really think Kobe could win a ring with Stephen Jackson as his 2nd option 02-04 Spurs would've killed to have a player like Odom or Butler.

 

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[Swagnificent]

Duncan with a weak supporting cast in 03- Championship ring, near quadruple double in clinching game 6 of the finals
Kobe with a weak supporting cast in 05/06/07- missing playoffs, first round exits

yeah ginobili and parker sure are the same as kwame brown and smush parker.

 

[KEEPITTRILLA]

yeah ginobili and parker sure are the same as kwame brown and smush parker.

damn you really a retard huh? 02/03 Ginobili and Parker were rookie/2nd year players, they had good moments like all players but wasn't shyt yet. Kobe wouldn't make it out the 2nd round with that team, let alone dethrone a 3peat sit down