Why Isnt The Media Running Kobe Out The League Like They Did Iverson?
- Thread starter Wacky D
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Another brilliant thread 
lol @ "just like AI". theres no comparison between the two situations.
for starters, kobe is a couple bad games away from being "injured" and sitting down for a while. theres no free agency 2016 for him.
more importantly, iverson was never at this stage that kobe is currently in. a better comparison to '10 iverson is '13 kobe.
'10 iverson got blackballed out of the league while '13 kobe got a ridiculous contract that crippled the lakers.come off the bench behind whom?
iverson had no problem coming off the bench behind a better player or at least a player on a good team thats in his talent range. instead, they were trying to get iverson to come off the bench behind dudes on bad teams that couldnt lace his boots at the time. SMARTEN UP.
AND WHY ISNT KOBE COMING OFF THE BENCH!!!??? WHY DONT YOU EXPLAIN THAT ONE!!!!??
hell, does kevin garnett even come off the bench yet? he'll play like 10 minutes, shoot 5 shots and call it a night but hes still starting.
the nba blatantly did iveron dirty.
we blaming the olympics on iverson now?
Kobe is accomplished
Iverson is not
Kobe averaged 27-6-6 and carried a team to the playoffs before being injured
Iverson was....Well, we don't know where he was
this has to be the dumbest post thus far.
you remember a 1st round exit to the defensively-challenged suns, but you dont remember iverson carrying a team to the nba finals?
im not even into these stan arguments so dont even bother responding.
There's a significant difference here. Kobe is still with the Lakers, because one of Jim Buss ( Rip), final wishes was for Kobe to retire as a Laker. Jim Buss had a father son relationship with Kobe. He also had that type of relationship with Magic Johnson. Kobe stays because of what he did for the Lakers.
Allen Iverson didn't want to stay with The 76ers, during a rebuild; and ask for a trade. That's his fault! If Jim Buss would've traded Kobe, when he wanted to be traded then it would've been a different story. I like Iverson; but he left because he had no team connections left. He burned his best one in philly.
When it comes to the media, the media went way harder on Kobe Bryant then Iverson. Let's not act like Kobe wasn't enemy number 1 during the whole Colorado incident. Every endorser because of media coverage left him. Let's not act like the media doesn't blame him for Shaq leaving.
Allen Iverson didn't want to stay with The 76ers, during a rebuild; and ask for a trade. That's his fault! If Jim Buss would've traded Kobe, when he wanted to be traded then it would've been a different story. I like Iverson; but he left because he had no team connections left. He burned his best one in philly.
When it comes to the media, the media went way harder on Kobe Bryant then Iverson. Let's not act like Kobe wasn't enemy number 1 during the whole Colorado incident. Every endorser because of media coverage left him. Let's not act like the media doesn't blame him for Shaq leaving.
ALonelyDad
Veteran
Because their teams don't care??? Are you really arguing this?? lol. Blame Sixers organization for not doing what Lakers/Wolves are doing. And come off the bench at memphis, he had a problem with that. Sixers also let him come back and he only played 50 before leaving again..although that was for his daughter illness. So you can say he did get a chance to close out his career.lol @ "just like AI". theres no comparison between the two situations.
for starters, kobe is a couple bad games away from being "injured" and sitting down for a while. theres no free agency 2016 for him.
more importantly, iverson was never at this stage that kobe is currently in. a better comparison to '10 iverson is '13 kobe.
come off the bench behind whom?
iverson had no problem coming off the bench behind a better player or at least a player on a good team thats in his talent range. instead, they were trying to get iverson to come off the bench behind dudes on bad teams that couldnt lace his boots at the time. SMARTEN UP.
AND WHY ISNT KOBE COMING OFF THE BENCH!!!??? WHY DONT YOU EXPLAIN THAT ONE!!!!??
hell, does kevin garnett even come off the bench yet? he'll play like 10 minutes, shoot 5 shots and call it a night but hes still starting.
the nba blatantly did iveron dirty.
we blaming the olympics on iverson now?
this has to be the dumbest post thus far.
you remember a 1st round exit to the defensively-challenged suns, but you dont remember iverson carrying a team to the nba finals?
im not even into these stan arguments so dont even bother responding.
Bilz
Superstar
Let's take that to be true (which it isn't), that still has nothing do with why Kobe's still in the league - which is what this thread is about.
That gets into a lot more hypotheticals than we can clearly define. I don't know if Kobe would still be a Laker if they hadn't won. I'm sticking to what we can judge without using imagination and that's Iverson being villainized by the media from the beginning and Kobe being treated like a golden child from the beginning. There is no evidence that suggests the media would have ever favored Iverson over Kobe.
these dudes dont want to acknowledge this.
thats why they keep trying to create these hypothetical diversions.
Iverson ran himself out the league in my opinion.
Heard he was still hittin the bottle hard when he was playing overseas.
No NBA team wants to deal with that, which is why Cuban only offered him a chance in the D-League to prove himself.
nobody wants to deal with kobe either.
why dont they offer his ass a d-league contract to prove himself?
lol @ a 1st ballot hof'er having to "prove himself".
meanwhile, garnett and kobe out here starting, simply off the strength of their names.
What are you like 28, and you're speaking as if you're 40. Stop with the omniscient Solon act, everyone done wised up to your facade years ago.
"The machine" (cotdamn you're corny turning this into some hawk and run type shyt) wouldn't have been behind him if he flamed out during the late 90s/early 00s and the Lakers went without a Championship. He would've been traded (for another elite wing like TMac to partner Shaq) and all this machination that you seem to think is the cause for him still being in the league wouldn't exist, because he'd be out of a starting role before you even had the inkling to walk down this path.
im 30 and ive been following ball since kobe was in middle school. whats the big deal?
i called you out on being young, or maybe just late to the game, because youre exposing yourself with alot of your posts.
dont get mad at me. be upset with yourself.
WHO THE fukk IS GIVING KOBE A FAREWELL PARADE?
Where the hell are you getting this from? Do you pay attention to anything that's going on in the league today or are you transfixed by how he was treated half a decade ago as an ode to keeping AI's memory alive by attacking the easiest opponent?
do you watch television?
lol.
you dont see the big deal theyre making over alot of these games, for instance those games at the nets & knicks?
blame the sixers for what?
iverson started on the sixers from what i remember.
it was the pistons trying to make iverson into a scapegoat that started that mess, and it carried over to memphis.
sixers have nothing to do with this.
I think it's safe to say that Kobe would have never been in the position to secure a 48 mil/two-year extension at 35 if he didn't have the success he did in LA - which would therefore mean this thread wouldn't exist. You really think they would've kept Kobe for 20 years and reward him with 50 mil on his way out, if he didn't win shyt? C'mon breh.
The evidence of winning. Kobe wouldn't even by in a position to be favored over anyone, because he would no longer be playing in the NBA. This conversation as both sides stand wouldn't take place if Iverson was the one with five rings in LA, and Kobe was the lone wolf in Philly.
ALonelyDad
Veteran
Sixers traded him away..lol @ nothing to do with it. Pistons/Grizzlies didn't owe shyt to AI, if Kobe was on any other team right now he would be benched..same with KG, but this is the benefit of playing on a team for this long. You stated media ran him out, now you are blaming teams? Which one is it?
This coming from the dude that believes the WNBA has more star power than the NBA.
They're not making a big deal over a lot of those games. Kobe's existence right now is being drowned out by the noise of the Warriors' dominance. Whenever he's been mentioned this season it's usually to do with how poor he's been playing.
It's less hypothetical diversions and more illustrating as to why he's still in the league in his 20th season playing for the same team.
Bilz
Superstar
The salary amount doesn't have anything to do with this. There are quite a few examples of guys playing a lot of years with one team without winning (Karl Malone). There also examples of old guys who never won but still got new contracts with other teams they had no ties with (Malone, again). I don't see anything that suggests Kobe would have been kicked out of town or forced to retire early if he could still play.
There is not always a big difference between a guy who is a distraction because he's an idiot and a guy who is a distraction because the media makes him one (Tebow is the best current example) Either way, you have to make a decision about whether the players performance outweighs that negativity. The medias slant on a player starts making a huge difference.
Dude is a hall of famer..Comparing a (Peasant)Iverson to a King(Kobe)
To you and all the fukk nikkas who dapped your post
GoonbergScandal
Pro
Iverson was still a good player when the Nuggets,Grizzlies and Pistons got rid of him. Kobe fukking sucks and he's still in the league.