Why isn't there a black version of Taylor Swift?

[feelosofer]

Brandy was considered America's sweetheart in the 90s. When she got be Cinderella I don't think a lot of you younger cats realize how popular that special was.

 

[VoxSphere74]

Lizzo is the black Taylor Swift. And she’s killing it!!!

I thought about that while I was watching some of the videos in this thread.


She mostly fits the bill:

*PG-13 music

*Has bland mostly acceptable songs

*Is vaguely liked by mostly everyone.

*And her music is safe for corporations to use

 

[Solo_87]

Breh, I get it.

But many of the biggest stars in the black cultural lexicon didn't really do they're own writing and arranging.

Some did/do like Stevie/Prince/Mariah and others but plenty were just their voices and how they were able to interpret it into the mic.

The ear, lyrics and everything else literally falls under the label of "the machine".

Hence many complaining about how the production teams of the pushed artists dwarf what resources the grass-roots artists can drum up.

People have been complaining about "studio artists" for decades because for many the artistry wasn't there.

They didn't write, they didn't create their own beats/arrangements, they just showed up, sang what was handed to them and the producer/ers did the rest.

T-Swift does write and arrange but looking at our charts, the data says we'd rather hear singers than artists.

She's Bill Withers for white women, apparently.

Depending on the genre I know singing can take a back seat to everything else but I cant recall the bar being so low

Most the singers black or white dominating the charts today arent even objectively good singers

In addition to not being involved in the writing and composition of the song

 

[KFBF]

It's nicki minaj.

 

[Adebisi_Said]

I just listened to parts of her new album earlier today with my niece and sister and I thought it was pretty good. She was able to tell stories about love and heartbreak that young girls would find relatable. Next to little vulgarity in her songs unlike 99% of the mainstream black female artists.

And more importantly, I've always found her aesthetic a breath of fresh air in the IG era. That plain Jane, Girl-Next-Door look is a rarity in this era of whores.

I want young black girls looking up to women like that as role models not Summer Walker, Megan, Doja.

Let's HOPE for one in the future.

 

[King Static X]

Also Taylor is a country artist. Country is extremely popular here

Taylor Swift hasn't been a country artist in over a decade. Also, she was mainly country pop not true country music.

 

[King Static X]

It's nicki minaj.

What?

 

[BruhManFromTheFifthFlo]

nikkas don’t wanna see nothing but ass and titties, me included.

There’s a large Christian cac fanbase for her music. She wasn’t called America’s sweetheart for no reason

 

[Lamar Givens]

This is what happens when you have diminishing ARTISTS in black music and a PROLIFERATION of ENTERTAINERS in black music.

 

[Chip Skylark]

I don’t think people realize how insane this is

 

[Solo_87]

Taylor Swift hasn't been a country artist in over a decade. Also, she was mainly country pop not true country music.

Country music is defined as “a style and genre of largely string-accompanied American popular music usually vocalized, generally simple in form and harmony, and typified by romantic or melancholy ballads accompanied by acoustic or electric. Basically the majority of her music

She built her fan base making generic, radio friendly country music for teenage white girls

They have grown with her and so has the size of her audience since she's gone on to experiment with different genres

Point still stands

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

only because she is a veteran at this point. Get any gen z girl to make music like that and she wont be successful

what about hailey bailey? She gonna be the star of the lil Mermaid

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

@humminbird if Britney Spears wouldn't have self destructed would she have been as big or bigger than Taylor Swift?

Britney was bigger. her 1st album sold 14 million copies.

 

[Coolin']

Lizzo is the black Taylor Swift. And she’s killing it!!!

Lizzo, for damn sure, ain’t the Black Taylor Swift lol. She’s hugely talented though.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Britney was bigger. her 1st album sold 14 million copies.

The late 90s and early 2000 era was fukking insane when you go back and look at the amount of albums that went diamond!