Why isn't there a black version of Taylor Swift?

Bmezy

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Nah not if she’s talented, women love Haille and she’s the girl next door type, if she gets the right ballads she will really take off.

Unlikely.. her generation can’t even sit through a ballad. Her demo 16-25 just doesn’t have the same palate for ballads unless sung by white ppl.
Ungodly Hour is as close to that brand as anything ..released in 2020.it got ignored
 

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It's called "social engineering" and music is one of their main ways of engineering society.

Music will mainly portray black women as masculine, oversexualized beasts while music will mainly portray white women as innocent princesses.

Same on the male side with the thug , gangbanging imagery. You're not gonna see clean, wholesome young black artists that our young boys can look up to.

And it's all directed at our youth.

They want as many young girls thinking it's "cool" to be an oversexualized thot as possible and our boys thinking it's "cool" to be a dopeboy

We were ENGINEERED into accepting this image as our "culture" and who we are as a people
 

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It feels like current day Black music is controlled by White people that want to destablize our community.
Bingo.

Best post I've read in here yet.

Your post didn't get hardly any daps because the majority of black people are fast asleep and totally ignorant about social engineering through entertainment.
 

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One… I just posted a pic on who runs the industry labels

And secondly nikkas always what to be the opposite and buy into I need to represent the hood/ghetto/the street look… so I don’t want to be a Taylor Swift until they can get in the door and then switched it up.. some make it, some get kicked in the bushes
 

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Chloe x Halle were on the come up with that album. More people were taking notice of them after their quarantine performances, they just needed to continue the momentum and get more promotion.

Chloe did not want to be patient and wait for her time which is why she went the thot route only to have a flop solo career. At least Halle chose the right path and it remains to be seen how things will work out for her post-Little Mermaid’s release.
I guess we’ll have to see, however if we take a look at other artists seemingly taking a more traditional RnB route like HER/ELLA Mai.. there’s a distinct glass ceiling that they all tend to cap out at in terms of keeping GP’s interest, which is why they can never really solidify themselves by their sophomore LPs.. after the initial hype, things fade to black much quicker and there’s rarely a demand for an encore.. the sound jus doesn’t connect with that younger demo anymore.. push too hard and you’ll find yourself on AC radio with John Legend and Jennifer Hudson..

Jus look at the wonders the content switch up towards ‘heaux culture’ did for Jazmine when she started catering to thot culture. Her music blew up and her brand expanded exponentially!

“which is why she went the thot route only to have a flop solo career.” - it’s ironic that you say this because it wasn’t until Chloe’s switch up towards the ‘thot route’ that she even begin getting proper charting placements.. Her debut single ‘Have Mercy’ debut at #28 on the billboard 100, while the traditional route with her sister ‘Do it’ peaked at #63.. Chloe actually peaked #1 on RnB/hip hop charts.. all her solo music peaked much higher with bigger streams than any of the ‘safe’ music she did as a duo.. it goes back to prove the point as to what that demo wants..
 
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How quickly would that Sistah be malign or call boring and unrelatable:usure::lupe:
 

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the award shows treat HER like she's that artist but it doesn't translate to sales and interest.

artists like Taylor Swift only come along every so many years. shes generational.
first off people like the music but then theres layers as to why shes beloved

her fanbase grew up with her, she's a talented songwriter and those songs seem to be about famous men shes dated so they are just as interested in the lyrics as they are the music, so that increases discussion, she's like the ying to Lana's yang in romanticising their lives as white girls in America, the album roll outs are done well.. she literally just dropped an album at the perfect time for white Pinterest/instagram girls.. fall/pumpkin spice season.

enough black woman listen to Taylor Swift for there to easily be a black version... she's got to hit at the right time.
Halle is interesting shout for someone who could fill that role.
 

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With Have Mercy, it was the first solo single and throughout 2021, Chloe was making waves on social media with the thot activities therefore it was likely to be a success. She also performed the song at the VMAs and it was sent to radio.

The follow-up singles all flopped. Treat Me was the second single which followed the same sound and aesthetic as Have Mercy. It did not do well.




I guess it could be the case that people specifically don’t want Chloe down the thot route and understandably so because it’s not authentic, she can’t sell it well and she has too much talent to sell herself short.

Chloe’s music in general isn’t connecting or keeping engagement.. I agree with you there. The only comparison that I’m drawing is that these ‘flops’ she’s releasing are performing significantly better than the previous music she made with her sister that aligns closer to the ‘black Taylor swift’ aesthetic that’s being discussed. The wholesome angle didn’t catch at all.. straight crickets.. fast forward a year later and ATLEAST there’s shown to be a slight upward trend in streams/charts/engagement. It doesn’t matter that it’s still flopping.. the simple fact that it’s flopping less means that she atleast gets more attention this time. That’s the only parallel I’m drawing.
 

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the award shows treat HER like she's that artist but it doesn't translate to sales and interest.

artists like Taylor Swift only come along every so many years. shes generational.
first off people like the music but then theres layers as to why shes beloved

her fanbase grew up with her, she's a talented songwriter and those songs seem to be about famous men shes dated so they are just as interested in the lyrics as they are the music, so that increases discussion, she's like the ying to Lana's yang in romanticising their lives as white girls in America, the album roll outs are done well.. she literally just dropped an album at the perfect time for white Pinterest/instagram girls.. fall/pumpkin spice season.

enough black woman listen to Taylor Swift for there to easily be a black version... she's got to hit at the right time.
Halle is interesting shout for someone who could fill that role.

If Taylor woke up Black, even looking like Zendaya, her career would vanish into thin air. For one, her white fans would abandon her, and two black women would refuse to support her.

And of course white record execs would refuse to promote her.

Because Taylor's career literally depends on her being a skinny blonde white woman not her modest talent. So the Black version can't even exist.

Since Black people would think she's corny. Witness how pg-13 Black singer types get ignored by Black people and get called lame or boring.

While the singers pushing sexually explicit songs are celebrated and elevated.
 

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Homogenization and fan engagement.

Everybody sounds the same. Since 2008, so many female singers sound like this.



The indie scene is the same, only thing that changes is the beat, most white women sound the same. As for black women, they do the slow soulful try hard singing with the same subject matter.

Taylor's uprising started before the internet blew up and everyone and their mother became meme generators. Thus, she had time to interact with her fans, put them in videos and the like. She's no longer 20 so she not doing it like she used to, she's in her own way coming for the crown.

Beyonce is going to be the last solo black female act that we support. We require too much from the artist and instantly start to compare them to motown legends.

Swift is compared to her contemporaries.
 
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