Why Kobe Bryant was a greater scorer than LeBron James will ever be

[Gangstar8]

I like substance over style

Scoring more point scoring on fewer shots means a better scorer. Doesn't matter how pretty it looks or any of that extra shyt. James scores more on fewer shots while moving the ball more effectively too.

so dwight howard is a better scorer than kobe

 

[Supreme365]

hmm let me see facts


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stupid repetitive comment that every forum has ran to the ground

You want facts lebron averages more per game in the reg season and playoffs then Kobe and if he stays healthy he'll be passing him on the all time scorers list in fewer games...Kobes a legend and I respect his game but he's not better than Bron Bron

 

[Supreme365]

LeBron stans who say "his fg% is way higher than Kobes"

But it is

 

[Supreme365]

Nope i said shooting not scoring. Kobe is also a better shooter and ft shooter then Jordan but he certainly isnt a better scorer he is also a better shooter and ft shooter then Shaq but not a better scorer larry bird is a better shooter and ft shooter then Jordan but not a better scorer stop posting trash.

Kobe doesn't shoot anywhere near as good as Jordan

 

[Bilz]

You could NEVER play Kobe or Tmac or even AI like the Spurs did Bron in 07

You could never play LeBron the way teams played Kobe either.

 

[Supreme365]

Two timer my ass, how many times has this thread been made? I mean goddamn, Kobe is the most skilled scorer of all time but you felt the need to make this thread for no other reason than to troll LeBron stans and do numbers. Kobe retired breh, he don't need no more threads it's over.

nikka please

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

You could never play LeBron the way teams played Kobe either.

Dude is hyping AI who had seasons shooting under 40% as a guy you couldn't dare to shoot . I didn't even notice that the first time I read it and already deemed it neg worthy off the Kobe and McGrady part. Seeing that too has me

 

[Supreme365]

It's honestly a toss up I might take Duncan but other days I feel Kobe was better two legends who were at the top of their era

 

[Biscayne]

Is Brooke Lopez or Pau Gasol a better scorer than Shaq because they're better at mid-range shots and have more range or does Shaq sheer efficiency and ability to get to the paint, at will, supersede their versatility?

If Lebron is GOAT-tier at getting to the lane and finishing while being able to do it more consistently and efficiently while being doubled or tripled (While also being played for his drive for 99% of his career) and being a more efficient three point shooter...what does that mean?

Scoring Versatility doesn't correlate to better when you're as dominant as Lebron/Shaq/Hakeem.

Lebron can score just as many, or more, points on less attempts because he's all but impossible to guard and keep from the lane. And our people still using this "He can't post BS"? Lebron has been dominating from the post for like 4 years straight. He pretty much requires an instant double team now.

Iono.....2015 finals was a prime example of LBJ's lack of shooting coming full circle. The shots LBJ was missing, were shots prime Kobe wouldn't have done any worse on. LBJ shot 39% from the field. I believe a prime Kobe if defended the same way and given the same selection of shots, would've at least shot 43%. Not saying Kobe is the better player, or that he would've beaten GS, but his ability to hit tough shots more consistently than LBJ, when the defense clamps down, or when the defense dares you to pull-up from a certain range, is an asset that Kobe has over many players(including LBJ). Especially when playing in the post and getting to the rim starts to fatigue you.

 

[MalikX]

Why are Kobe Stan's so insecure?

Why are Lebron stans so insecure about Kobe. Dude's a bonafied top 10 player all time and they talk about him like he's Spud Webb. They're the ones who're insecure. The nikka retired with 5 rings. What's there to be mad about?

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Why are Lebron stans so insecure about Kobe. Dude's a bonafied top 10 player all time and they talk about him like he's Spud Webb. They're the ones who're insecure. The nikka retired with 5 rings. What's there to be mad about?

LeBron stans aren't the ones making these threads all the time or claiming that someone averaging 15.6 a game on 36% shooting in a finals was actually the hero of the series or claiming averaging 26/10/7 on 45% shooting is getting locked up in the finals and not deserving of the finals MVP when all these categories led the team while claiming that 28/8/3.7 on 40% shooting is god like

 

[MalikX]

LeBron stans aren't the ones making these threads all the time or claiming that someone averaging 15.6 a game on 36% shooting in a finals was actually the hero of the series or claiming averaging 26/10/7 on 45% shooting is getting locked up in the finals and not deserving of the finals MVP when all these categories led the team while claiming that 28/8/3.7 on 40% shooting is god like

You are insecure. There you go again.....talking about a top 10 player like he's garbage because you're insecure

You so insecure you gotta reach back to Kobe's first finals when he was 21 years old eventhough he's also the reason the Lakers won by winning games when Shaq got fouled out but since you're a faq, you smooth ignore that little bit of information

Let's not talk about your boy being fukking 25 years old and a 7 year veteran scoring 8 points in the Finals looking like Marlon Wayans in the 6th Man.

Let's not talk about his jumper being so weak the Spurs game planned to give his open jump shots The fukkery of that. "Best player in the world" being given open 20 footers in the Finals and missing them for 5 games straight and you wanna argue who's the best shooter nikka go on somewhere

I won't even get into him just being a fakkit over all, jumping teams and joining up with the 3rd best SG of all time. Or the fact he got a losing record in the Finals. You'd have your legs bashed in by now if you gambled on Lebron winning the championship

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

You are insecure. There you go again.....talking about a top 10 player like he's garbage because you're insecure

You so insecure you gotta reach back to Kobe's first finals when he was 21 years old eventhough he's also the reason the Lakers won by winning games when Shaq got fouled out but since you're a faq, you smooth ignore that little bit of information

Let's not talk about your boy being fukking 25 years old and a 7 year veteran scoring 8 points in the Finals looking like Marlon Wayans in the 6th Man.

Let's not talk about his jumper being so weak the Spurs game planned to give his open jump shots The fukkery of that. "Best player in the world" being given open 20 footers in the Finals and missing them for 5 games straight and you wanna argue who's the best shooter nikka go on somewhere

I won't even get into him just being a fakkit over all, jumping teams and joining up with the 3rd best SG of all time. Or the fact he got a losing record in the Finals. You'd have your legs bashed in by now if you gambled on Lebron winning the championship

This is what projection looks like

 

[hayesc0]

Kobe doesn't shoot anywhere near as good as Jordan

Not from a percentage standpoint because kobe takes bad shots but he is a better shooter particularly from long range.

 

[ThaRealness]

If Kobe shot at Lebron-level efficiency from midrange, it would have lowered his career scoring by.....0.7ppg
If Lebron shot at Kobe-level efficiency from inside and on threes, it would have lowered his career scoring by....1.5ppg


And since Lebron is bright enough to concentrate his scoring on inside and threes, instead of shooting 57% of his shots from that low-efficiency midrange area like Kobe does, he picks up an additional 1.3ppg on smarter shot selection alone.


And that's how Lebron magically ends up with a career scoring average of 27.2, while Kobe's down at 25.0, despite them taking the same number of career shots/game and Kobe supposedly being a "greater scorer".







Do you even see the numbers you're posting? The vast majority of shots are taken from 0-3 feet, where Lebron dominates, or from 16-30 feet, where they're even. The two players only take 20-30% of their shots in the 3-16 foot range where Kobe has an advantage, and most of those are in the 3-10 foot range where the advantage is small.

Lebron beats Kobe 54% to 48% on twos AND 34% to 33% on threes.

But Kobe is the better scorer because he's got that least-used, low-efficiency area from 10-16 feet locked down.




0-3 feet: Lebron dominantly ahead, 73% to 63%

Even better, Lebron is good enough to take 35% of his shots there, while Kobe's only at 21%. So Lebron's getting the most shots where efficiency is the best.

Lebron picks up 4.6ppg over Kobe at this distance, 3.2ppg due to higher volume and 1.4ppg due to better shooting.



3-10 feet: Kobe slightly ahead, 45% to 43%

Both of them only take 12% of their shots from this range, so that 2% difference is basically meaningless.
Kobe gets an extra 0.1ppg over Lebron at his distance due to slightly better shooting.



10-16 feet: Kobe clearly ahead, 44% to 36%

This is where Kobe has the advantage...but it's fool's gold, because he takes 17% of his shots in this low-percentage range while Lebron only takes 10%.

So while Kobe's hitting 44% on 17% of his shots here, Lebron's doing much better by not taking nearly as many of these and getting close-in shots instead.

Kobe has an extra 1.5ppg over Lebron at this distance, 1.0ppg due to higher volume and 0.5ppg due to better shooting.



16-23 feet: Kobe barely ahead, 40% to 39%

28% of Kobe's shots, 22% of Bron's. Again, fool's gold for Kobe, because while he has a tiny advantage, it costs him FAR worse when he's dumb enough that his #1 zone is his least efficient zone.

Kobe gets an extra 1.0ppg over Lebron at this distance, 0.9ppg due to higher volume and 0.1ppg due to better shooting.



Three-pointers: Lebron barely ahead, 34% to 33%, but actually 51% to 49% on eFG% since threes are worth more

21.6% of Kobe's shots, 20.4% of Lebron's. (Lebron actually averaged more threes than Kobe until Kobe decided to shoot nothing but threes last year.)

Lebron gets an extra 0.1ppg over Kobe at this distance due to better efficiency, but it's mostly cancelled out by Kobe's slightly higher volume.



So Lebron gets 3.2ppg game over Kobe due to getting more shots at the rim, and 1.5ppg over Kobe due to better efficiency at the rim and on threes.

But Kobe picks up 1.9ppg over Lebron due to taking more low-% midrange jumpers, and gets an additional 0.7ppg due to better efficiency there.



Your entire brag about Kobe's better midrange shooting efficiency only buys him 0.7 extra points a game there.

Ive never seen an ether with so much breadth