Why next-gen consoles won't run games at 4K

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Why next-gen consoles won't run games at 4K
Just because some say they can, doesn't mean they should. Based on the latest graphics hardware no one should expect great 4K gaming in this next generation of consoles.
by Nic Healey July 5, 2013 11:05 AM PDT

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Back in March, Microsoft's CVP of Marketing and Strategy Yusuf Mehdi told Forbes that the Xbox One would support 4K gaming, saying that there was "no hardware restriction there at all".

However, some testing from AnandTech suggests that while that statement might be technically accurate, whether it's playable or not might be a different matter.

At Computex, AnnadTech's Ian Cutress got his hands on a 4K monitor and decided to run some gaming benchmarks and see what happened.

Testing across Sleeping Dogs and Metro 2033, it took four of Nvidia's GTX Titan graphics cards to hit around 60fps when outputting the game at 3840x2160 on max settings.

Dirt 3, luckily, was a little more forgiving. It took just one Titan to hit a similar frame rate.

Two things are important to note here. One is that currently, a GTX Titan 6GB will run you to around AU$1200 to buy. It's a very expensive, top-of-the-line GPU.

The second is that the Xbox One and the PS4 don't come close to that sort of graphics power.

To a certain degree, this is very much a case of comparing oranges and apples. There's a lot more going on under the hood of either of these consoles than just what the equivalent GPU is — a great deal. Pitting them against a PC test rig just isn't a fair real-world comparison.

But if we look at just raw graphic power based on FLOPS (floating-point operations per second) we see some pretty big differences. The Xbox One is estimated to have a peak power of 1.23 teraflops. The PS4 has 1.84.

Nvidia stated that the Titan has a peak output of 4.5 teraflops. And it still takes four of them to render a game playable in 4K.

And honestly, that's fine for PC gaming. No one really wants to play 4K games just yet, and the costs need to come down on the components and the monitors before they do. When that happens, PC gamers will upgrade, like they always do.

But if next-generation consoles have the same shelf life as their predecessors, then Sony and Microsoft want us to still be playing them in five to eight years, when we'll be well into a 4K gaming world with the consoles left behind.



Why next-gen consoles won't run games at 4K | Reviews - Games and Gear - CNET Reviews

Mmm-hmm. I had to create this thread because Courtdog's ( @PS4 & @Big Suge Knight) delusional ass actually thinks the Xbox1 will be able to run games in Native 4K.

Also courtdog, this is the same reason that the Xbox1 will NEVER be backwards-compatible with Xbox 360 games via software emulation (and the same goes for the PS4 with PS3 games). The CPU & GPU aren't powerful enough.
 
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Mmm-hmm. I had to create this thread because Courtdog's ( @PS4 & @Big Suge Knight) delusional ass actually thinks the Xbox1 will be able to run games in Native 4K.

Also courtdog, this is the same reason that the Xbox1 will NEVER be backwards-compatible with Xbox 360 games via software emulation (and the same goes for the PS4 with PS3 games). The CPU & GPU aren't powerful enough.
1.) You article doesn't know what is in Xbox One to do this "test" he can only assume

2.) The article was written by a person who has limited understanding on gaming consoles. The biggest mistake we see all the time is PC heads comparing PC GPU's to Console GPU's. Like if consoles don't have that optimization angle that makes old GPU's crank out graphics of PC GPU's that are years more advanced. You now this, and you see he didn't apply any of that to his equation. Funny, neither does Liquid :ohhh:

3.) You said this is the SAME REASON BC isn't possible :dead:
Ok, go head and explain that one spudnik. All this because :umad: Xbox can what Playstay don't?
 
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What's the point if you don't have a brolick as fukk TV?

4KTV's are available right now for as low as $1000 :manny:

This 39-Inch 4K TV Only Costs $700

^^^ Well, now its as low as $700 ^^^

I was like HELL NO to 4KTV when it really started picking up steam last year.
But how can you NOT get one the next time you need to upgrade your TV set?
So these fukkers are gonna get us, they gonna get us all :mad:
 

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4KTV's are available right now for as low as $1000 :manny:

This 39-Inch 4K TV Only Costs $700

^^^ Well, now its as low as $700 ^^^

I was like HELL NO to 4KTV when it really started picking up steam last year.
But how can you NOT get one the next time you need to upgrade your TV set?
So these fukkers are gonna get us, they gonna get us all :mad:
that's cool but is anything in 4K yet?
 

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that's cool but is anything in 4K yet?

Netflix Chief Product Officer: expect 4K streaming within a year or two | The Verge

Basically, no :manny:
I thought the 4k res was for movies not actual games
PS4 movies only, Xbox One movies and games.

Some people don't believe it, or the cloud, or the instant switching/etc. shyt, even the headsets :aicmon:
I will admit this is the most likely out of all not to work as advertised (or at all)
There is no reason it couldn't. It just wouldn't be doing that for Halo 5 UNLESS :leon:

Well, they already have shown what they can do. If it does happen, this will be the reason.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I5TEpAnuEg"]DirectX 11.2 - Xbox One & Windows 8.1 - YouTube[/ame]
It goes into exact details on why the "graphics card aka GPU" can do WAY MORE than it can just on paper.
Tiled Resources FTW :win:
 

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This is easy.

The reason why next-gen console games won't run at 4K? Because PC games are not doing so yet and consoles are ALWAYS left behind. You don't even need to get into technical discussions about the whole thing. I have explained this to you guys many times...don't expect magic from a $400-$500 box with static hardware for 5-8 years when you want something that cannot even be done with DOUBLE the budget.

Save all those paragraphs
 

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This is easy.

The reason why next-gen console games won't run at 4K? Because PC games are not doing so yet and consoles are ALWAYS left behind. You don't even need to get into technical discussions about the whole thing. I have explained this to you guys many times...don't expect magic from a $400-$500 box with static hardware for 5-8 years when you want something that cannot even be done with DOUBLE the budget.

Save all those paragraphs
So then, what do you know/think about Tiled Resources :popcorn:
theres 0 chance of a console running games at 4k.
And you are basing this off of what exactly :popcorn:
Will regular resolution games look better on a 4k TV?
Will games looked better on an HDTV vs a SD. So I'd have to assume yes, as long as the system/PC you using can upscale to more than 1080p

The Xbox 360 for instance can go as high as 1440p or 18something P so even Xbox 360 games would look better on a 4KTV...
 

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Will regular resolution games look better on a 4k TV?

Regular resolution? Do you mean 1080p? HELL NO!!!!!!! That's like asking will 480i/p look better on a 1080p HDTV. A 1080p image is always gonna look better on a actual 1080p HDTV than being blown up to 4K on 4K TV/projector.
 

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1.) You article doesn't know what is in Xbox One to do this "test" he can only assume

2.) The article was written by a person who has limited understanding on gaming consoles. The biggest mistake we see all the time is PC heads comparing PC GPU's to Console GPU's. Like if consoles don't have that optimization angle that makes old GPU's crank out graphics of PC GPU's that are years more advanced. You now this, and you see he didn't apply any of that to his equation. Funny, neither does Liquid :ohhh:

3.) You said this is the SAME REASON BC isn't possible :dead:
Ok, go head and explain that one spudnik. All this because :umad: Xbox can what Playstay don't?

See, this kind of reasoning that you do really throws me off as to whether you are a sane individual or not. Its a fact that NEITHER of the consoles can fux with a Nvidia titan...hence the reason the card costs over 250 alone in MATERIALS...and goes for a selling price of over 500. 4k gaming on these weak (compared to PC) consoles is simply unfeasible
 
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