Why nobody would average 50 today
- Thread starter FunkDoc1112
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madness
Taking my talents to South Beach
This video is for the mouthbreathing Mambasexuals who claim Kobe would score 50 every night in this era
Which is still off because era, pace etc. doesn't impact first option scoring like that. Scoring is all about opportunities and that doesnt change all that much for top guys.
Trojan 24
Veteran
So they made this because people say Mike or Kobe would average 50 when it's obviously hyperbole? Losers
And yeah he might not get 50 but Mike getting you 40 today and may get close to 45
And yeah he might not get 50 but Mike getting you 40 today and may get close to 45
IsThatBrothaMouzone?
Veteran
Purely logistics.
If you're an efficient scorer (think Jordan, Curry, Dirk, KD at their best)...if they're "on", those games will be over very quickly and you won't have the chance to put up enough shots to get 50 ppg.
If those guys are having off nights, they tend to defer to the hot hand.
Volume shooters (AI, Kobe etc) wouldn't get the green light LIKE THAT on modern teams unless they were having a great night. Them 2001 stat-lines of: 10/33, 32 pts....no. Kobe is an interesting case of someone that could get his shot off against ANYONE. I think he might have actually been better in today's game with some guidance on shot selection....less mid/long range 2's, and more focus on close-in shots plus 3's.
If you're an efficient scorer (think Jordan, Curry, Dirk, KD at their best)...if they're "on", those games will be over very quickly and you won't have the chance to put up enough shots to get 50 ppg.
If those guys are having off nights, they tend to defer to the hot hand.
Volume shooters (AI, Kobe etc) wouldn't get the green light LIKE THAT on modern teams unless they were having a great night. Them 2001 stat-lines of: 10/33, 32 pts....no. Kobe is an interesting case of someone that could get his shot off against ANYONE. I think he might have actually been better in today's game with some guidance on shot selection....less mid/long range 2's, and more focus on close-in shots plus 3's.
EVERY TEAM IN TODAYS LEAGUE
HAS SHOOTERS AND ITS BEEN
THAT WAY FOR A WHILE
SGA AVERAGED 31PTS TAKING 2.5 3PA
BUT IM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE
A MORE ATHLETIC SUPERIOR VERSION OF HIM
ISNT GETTING 40?
There are shooters and then there are guys you are gonna think twice about leaving to cover Mike. And if you do have guys like that you arent gonna have him dominating the ball to that degree.
EVERY TEAM IN TODAYS LEAGUE
HAS SHOOTERS AND ITS BEEN
THAT WAY FOR A WHILE
SGA AVERAGED 31PTS TAKING 2.5 3PA
BUT IM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE
A MORE ATHLETIC SUPERIOR VERSION OF HIM
ISNT GETTING 40?
Its not about athleticism or even ability, it's about opprtunites and how the game is played.
etrofllenrod504
Superstar
NOW YOU HAVE TO
FACTOR IN THE TYPE OF
FOULS HE RECEIVED FOR DRIVING
TO THE RIM.
MJ DEFINITELY GETTING 40 IN
THIS ERA OF SPACING
WHERE THEY CANT BE PHYSICAL
ON DEFENSE LET ALONE GET AWAY
WITH FLAGRANT FOULS
90 percent of this clip is the Pistons. All the NBA wasnt physical like Detroit. Defense in the 90s wasn’t as great as yall try to portray.
Gotta stop the nostalgia narrative BS
NBA league average Defensive Rating by decade:
1960s: 94.4
1970s: 99.8
1980s: 106.9
1990s: 107.0
2000s: 105.3
2010s: 107.3
2020s: 112.5
NBA league average pace by decade:
1960s: 121.3
1970s: 106.1
1980s: 101.5
1990s: 93.8
2000s: 91.4
2010s: 94.6
2020s: 99.2
It would take a lot for a player to avg 40. For starters the level of defensive schemes that get ran into today’s game. Also said player would need to be efficient/versatile taking atleast 25 shots a game also, the team around him would have to be absolutely TRASH shooting. Just about every damn player in today’s league can shoot from behind the arch,that’s how we have the floor spacing being what it is. It would literally make no sense. If he’s avg 40 a game that team gonna be ass.
LUKA WITH NO MOTOR
AVERAGED 34 THE
YEAR THE MAVS MADE THE FINALS.
MJ AND KOBE CAN DO 40 EASILY
IN TODAYS GAME
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
yeah but that's the thing, another part he addressed in the video - guys just don't play those kind of minutes anymore, they can't with how the game is played now
MicIsGod
They like what that mean
I think more 5 out offense greatly affects scoring. Dude were putting up numbers with 2-3 dudes on the court who cant shoot. Spacing is the real difference. Imagine Kobe with harden spacing .
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
Luka got that by basically controlling the ball every possession, Kobe and MJ have never played heliocentric ball to that degree for significant stretches and MJ in the phase of his career where he was averaging 37 didn't have the playmaking chops for that tto be a winnable style of basketball, and has alreayd been outlined, the percentage of a team's offense needed to score 40 for an entire season has literally never been done for more than 20 games in the entire history of the NBA.
LUKA WITH NO MOTOR
AVERAGED 34 THE
YEAR THE MAVS MADE THE FINALS.
MJ AND KOBE CAN DO 40 EASILY
IN TODAYS GAME
It's not happenng and y'all need to let go of fanfiction.
Like be realistic nikkas. Do you honestly believe that humans have actually gotten worse at sports over 30 years of advancements to the game, training, travel and medical treatments
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C L O N E*0690//////
the top guns from now would burn the scoreboards down facing mandatory man defense aHA*
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
The spacing has a bigger impact on role players than superstars
The point being outlined is that simply due to the nature of tha game, nobody's gonna be in a position where they're shooting at the volume required to account for that much of their team's offense. It's never happened. Even Wilt's 50 PPG season topped out at 40% of his team's scoring.
Luka got that by basically controlling the ball every possession, Kobe and MJ have never played heliocentric ball to that degree for significant stretches and MJ in the phase of his career where he was averaging 37 didn't have the playmaking chops for that tto be a winnable style of basketball, and has alreayd been outlined, the percentage of a team's offense needed to score 40 for an entire season has literally never been done for more than 20 games in the entire history of the NBA.
It's not happenng and y'all need to let go of fanfiction.
Like be realistic nikkas. Do you honestly believe that humans have actually gotten worse at sports over 30 years of advancements to the game, training, travel and medical treatments
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH HUMANS GETTING WORSE.
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO
WITH THE LEAGUE STYLE
AND RULE CHANGES BEING
GEARED TOWARDS THE OFFENSE
nikkaS WERE GETTING 35+
WHEN THEY STILL HAD
2 NON SHOOTING BIGS
CLOGGING UP THE SPACING
ON TOP OF PLAYERS ACTUALLY
BEING ALLOWED TO DEFEND