Why nobody would average 50 today
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WHEN AN OFFENSE ISNT AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENSE, 1 GUY CAN DOMINATE THE OFFENSE MUCH EASIER ... AND WHEN U PLAY AT A FASTER PACE, THAT EQUALS MORE SHOT ATTEMPTS, MOST OF WHICH WOULD GO TO THE FOCAL POINT OF THE OFFENSE
SIMPLE SCIENCE
..you just went against your own concept and then tried to make it support your argument..With what you see now..who's open gets the ball..as a matter of fact once someone does something else we say "the ball is starting to stick, too much 1 v 1"
Offenses today aren't specifically trying to get one guy more shots..that's why the video points out how much of an analomy it was for that James Harden 19 season and still didn't average 40..
With what you see now..who's open gets the ball..as a matter of fact once someone does something else we say "the ball is starting to stick, too much 1 v 1"
Offenses today aren't specifically trying to get one guy more shots..that's why the video points out how much of an analomy it was for that James Harden 19 season and still didn't average 40..
NOT SURE WHAT U TALKIN BOUT
IF U PUT 4 SHOOTERS STANDING AT THE 3 POINT LINE TO DRAW DEFENSE ALA THE DANTONI SUNS AND THEN GIVE KOBE THE BALL, THAT MEANS HES 1-ON-1 EVERY TIME
AKA ALMOST ALWAYS GUNA COOK A DEFENDER 1-ON-1
NOTHING I SAID WENT AGAINST ANYTHING, U JUST MAKIN STUFF UP
Aight bro..you got it..
You already talked about he didn't do because it was about winning and getting others involved.
So now you going to have all the best 3point shooters?
And if we make him pass the ball, how does he average 40, they have to be good or we just double.
And then you keep saying "simple science and easy".
It's not..the simple science keeps telling you otherwise(you, even agree- teammates, winning, defense)the evidence tells you.
The video is telling you all of this but you keep coming back to the table with hypotheticals, and ifs..
Dwight Howard
Superstar
06 kobe could easily average 40 in today's league
Aight bro..you got it..
You already talked about he didn't do because it was about winning and getting others involved.
So now you going to have all the best 3point shooters?
And if we make him pass the ball, how does he average 40, they have to be good or we just double.
And then you keep saying "simple science and easy".
It's not..the simple science keeps telling you otherwise(you, even agree- teammates, winning, defense)the evidence tells you.
The video is telling you all of this but you keep coming back to the table with hypotheticals, and ifs..
YOU THINK THE WORLD IS BLACK N WHITE
THATS A GOOD WAY TO MISS OUT ON ALL THE COLORS
-IN AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENSE LIKE THE TRIANGLE, YES, IT WOULD HURT THE TEAM FOR A PLAYER NOT TO MOVE THE BALL
-IN A FREE FLOWING OFFENSE, BALL MOVEMENT IS LESS VITAL IN ORDER TO FIND SUCCESS
-ON A TEAM LIKE PHOENIX WHERE EVERYONE COULD SHOOT, NOBODY IS LEAVING THEIR MAN TO DOUBLE KOBE
-KOBE 1 ON 1 WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR BEST SHOT AT SCORING WHEN THE SYSTEM ISNT DEPENDENT ON MOVING THE BALL
-ALL THESE THINGS LEAD TO KOBE SCORING MORE WHILE STILL BEING SUCCESFUL IN A FREE FLOWING OFFENSE THAN HE COULD IN AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENSE
THERE ARE NO HOLES IN ANYTHING I SAID.. U SIMPLY WANT THERE TO BE
ANYTHING ELSE FAM?
madness
Taking my talents to South Beach
would've, could've, should've
didn't
didn't
YOUR MATH IS OFF.
KOBE SCORED 35.6% OF HIS
TEAMS PTS IN 2006.
THE LEAGUE AVERAGE IN
2026 IS 115 PTS...
IF HE SCORED 35.6% OF 115.3 PTS
HE WOULD AVERAGE 41 PTS
MJ SCORED 35.4% OF HIS TEAMS
PTS IN 1987
WHICH WOULD PUT HIM AT 40.8 PTS
IN 2026.
ALSO IS WILT NOT INCLUDED
IN NBA HISTORY?
Bro something is truly off with you..
You keep using your own arguments against yourself..
The better the teammates are the less Kobe would score..he wouldn't have the usage rate to do it..no matter how fast you play or free flowing the offense is.. .he would need to essentially be 48-50% of the offense, not happening on good teams. On bad teams it's taxing and not sustainable and the defense would simply make someone else score.(y'all dudes love to exaggerate screen shots with 3 guys challenging his shots that literally would happen every game and all night).
This is the point my guy at some point he has to get shots up at a high percentage no matter the offense he plays in
Even the best teams we have seen record wise in history has someone (multiple)not as good as the best player on the floor..
Yes the defense will leave other guys open on a team like Phoenix..
This is basic shyt now bro and letting me know to leave this conversation with you.
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LOL GLAD SOMEONE GOT TO THIS BEFORE ME
VVVV
YOUR MATH IS OFF.
KOBE SCORED 35.6% OF HIS
TEAMS PTS IN 2006.
THE LEAGUE AVERAGE IN
2026 IS 115 PTS...
IF HE SCORED 35.6% OF 115.3 PTS
HE WOULD AVERAGE 41 PTS
MJ SCORED 35.4% OF HIS TEAMS
PTS IN 1987
WHICH WOULD PUT HIM AT 40.8 PTS
IN 2026.
ALSO IS WILT NOT INCLUDED
IN NBA HISTORY?
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
Yeah and a fast paced system leads to you sharing the rock more often than not because you need ball movement to play like that; even iso heavy teams like the 19 Rockets move the ball more than the average team from 95-2009. And like what people have to keep repeating, the pace leads to people playing less minutes so they dont get worn out which is the other side to why nobody's averaging 40 - they simply would never play the minutes needed to get there.
Look 87 MJ and 19 Harden. 87 Bulls were the slowest team in the league and Rockets were fourth slowest. And even the 06 Lakers were middle of the pack. That type of basketball that revolves around 1 guy, its going to be slower and more deliberate because there's a lot of "everyone stands around while 1 guy tries to create a shot". To get a shot off in 7 seconds or less you have to actually pass
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
Once again yall are not paying attention and proving you didnt actually watch the video - its percentage of scoring WHEN THEY'RE ON THE FLOOR. The accurate way of calculating that is taking their points per 100 possessions and factoring that into a teams points per 100 possessions.
YOUR MATH IS OFF.
KOBE SCORED 35.6% OF HIS
TEAMS PTS IN 2006.
THE LEAGUE AVERAGE IN
2026 IS 115 PTS...
IF HE SCORED 35.6% OF 115.3 PTS
HE WOULD AVERAGE 41 PTS
MJ SCORED 35.4% OF HIS TEAMS
PTS IN 1987
WHICH WOULD PUT HIM AT 40.8 PTS
IN 2026.
ALSO IS WILT NOT INCLUDED
IN NBA HISTORY?
The highest we get from that is MJ and Harden at around 42%. You nikkas are repeatedly ignoring how minutes played factors into this, another reason you should actually watch it. Wilts 50p PPG season is actually on the low end of the top 10 for % of teams points because he played the entire game, something that is never happening now.
Like if yall are come in here arguing, actually watch the fukking thing youre arguing about
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
The average team now moves the ball way more than teams did in Kobes era. What are you not understanding. You literally keep arguing against yourself.
DEPENDS ON THE TEAM AND OFFENSE
THE TRIANGLE OFFENSE IS PREDICATED ON BALL MOVEMENT
THE CURRENT LAKERS RUN A BRON BALL OFFENSE DISGUISED AS A FIVE OUT PICK N ROLL OFFENSE, WHICH HAS WAY LESS BALL MOVEMENT THAN THE TRIANGLE
SO NO