It's very comical to think anyone would rather choose mentality or physically intensive work over standing around with boredom as your only cause of stress, for the same pay.
Why should intellect determine someone's success /earning potential? Socialism is the answer, PMW.
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Secure Da Bag
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It's very comical to think anyone would rather choose mentality or physically intensive work over standing around with boredom as your only cause of stress, for the same pay.
Not everyone is ok with having a mediocre job even if it is paying well.
Maybe for weirdos with no life, who'd love to work 10-12 hour days, 6 days a week if they didnt have to.Not everyone is ok with having a mediocre job even if it is paying well.
I'd gladly stack boxes at target for a living if there was no benefit in inspiring to be more.
I'm sure the vast majority of people feel the same way.
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Maybe for weirdos with no life, who'd love to work 10-12 hour days, 6 days a week if they didnt have to.
I'd gladly stack boxes at target for a living if there was no benefit in inspiring to be more.
I'm sure the vast majority of people feel the same way.
Social democracy >>>>>>>>>> Socialism
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
in these threads, we're supposed to pretend successful and time-tested leftist economics doesn't existit's pure speculation, ignore the last 150 years of history, don't read about it
Take your salary and multiply it by 2 or 3.
This is how much (in theory) you make for the company in doing your job.
A minimum wage worker generates far less revenue for a company that an aerospace engineer.
You may not like it, but our economy isn't based on sweat equity. You don't make more money by physically working harder or being stressed.
If you want to make more, you have to contribute more.
Sounds like a world OP would flourish in.
This is how much (in theory) you make for the company in doing your job.
A minimum wage worker generates far less revenue for a company that an aerospace engineer.
You may not like it, but our economy isn't based on sweat equity. You don't make more money by physically working harder or being stressed.
If you want to make more, you have to contribute more.
Sounds like a world OP would flourish in.
Just to add--and I'm acknowledging that OP is either trolling, willfully ignorant, or really, really...er...short-sighted--
Capitalism by itself isn't fair. In theory, everyone starts out at the same starting line, and has unlimited potential to succeed.
The theory starts to fall apart once one generation inheirits wealth from a previous generation.
Add to that the practice of keeping whole sections of people from even getting in the race while others gobble up resources, and the illusion of capitalism being fair breaks down completely.
Capitalism needs socialist elements to make it fair. However, those elements should be for promoting equality of opportunity...not equality of outcome, as OP is suggesting.
Capitalism by itself isn't fair. In theory, everyone starts out at the same starting line, and has unlimited potential to succeed.
The theory starts to fall apart once one generation inheirits wealth from a previous generation.
Add to that the practice of keeping whole sections of people from even getting in the race while others gobble up resources, and the illusion of capitalism being fair breaks down completely.
Capitalism needs socialist elements to make it fair. However, those elements should be for promoting equality of opportunity...not equality of outcome, as OP is suggesting.
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mc_brew
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he has to be trolling....
most people aren't nuanced and want an "extreme"...
either we're 100% individuals and responsible only for ourselves or we're 100% collectivists and responsible for everyone else... neither position is realistic... we can't live in 200° temperatures, nor could we survive in -60° temperatures either.... we have to find the sweet spot between two extremes... i wish people could understand that, but alas the vast majority simply can not....
why should people who dont know what it takes to make money decide how much they get paid?
im not anti-union but to insinuate skills arent a factor is dumb shyt
greed my ass
here's a thought exercise
^^^this shyt cost what $1-2
how would you start to finish get this loaf of bread yourself
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Because a bunch of intellectually superior people decided this is the form of government they want.
This is the true answer. People who run the system made up the rules. Easy as that
panopticon
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This is a great philosophical question, breh.
We're learning more and more every day that on top of intelligence being mostly genetically determined, that traits we associate with "personality" and believe to be malleable through self-improvement (things like conscientiousness, ability to focus, etc.) are somewhat (or even mostly) genetically determined as well.
Even things like your susceptibility to substance abuse have a significant genetic component - it isn't an accident that 10 people can try heroin or a cigarette or drink alcohol, but only 1 or 2 actually turn into junkies/chimneys/alcoholics.
So not only are your smarts dependent on your genetic makeup, but so is your ability to put whatever smarts you've got to work.
I've always been a proponent of progressive taxation off the intelligence data alone.
But this new data on just how powerful a role genetics play in so many other human traits has me wondering if that's far enough.
What I can say is that knowledge of all this has made me far more empathetic to those struggling in life.
Why is that job more difficult?
Explain why?
Everyone offers value but its not for a company, its for the overall benefit of societal demand.