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How much of this has to do with the emphasis of rules geared toward them, the decline of big men protecting the paint more so than there being more talented perimeter players today?

Because to me i'll take quality over quantity.


Breh, you really wanna compare the PGs, SGs, and SFs of the 90s (90-99) to the 2000s (2000-2009)?
 

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Breh, you really wanna compare the PGs, SGs, and SFs of the 90s (90-99) to the 2000s (2000-2009)?


Why not. It's not going to be some route like you tink. You might even be shocked. But since u had guys like mj kobe tmac etc.. play in both eras how are we differentiating them?
 

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Why not. It's not going to be some route like you tink. You might even be shocked. But since u had guys like mj kobe tmac etc.. play in both eras how are we differentiating them?

Because, Kobe's prime wasnt in the 90s. You know that. He didnt even become a STARTER until the last year of the 90s (1999)

But even if we put in both eras, we'd still be able to determine when was their actual primes by using our basketball knowledge
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
How much of this has to do with the emphasis of rules geared toward them, the decline of big men protecting the paint more so than there being more talented perimeter players today?

Because to me i'll take quality over quantity.


There isn't a decline of big men protecting the paint, there has been a decline of offensive 5s, not tall ass nikkas in the lane blocking shots :russ:
 

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Because, Kobe's prime wasnt in the 90s. You know that. He didnt even become a STARTER until the last year of the 90s (1999)

But even if we put in both eras, we'd still be able to determine when was their actual primes by using our basketball knowledge

Alright i won't include someone like Ivy on the 90's since his prime was in the 00's.

Here goes nothing. I will include PG, SG, and SF's placed into tiers.


Gawwwd Tier
MJ

Tier 0 - Superstars/ Hall of famers/ top 10 players in their prime.
Pippen
Drexler
Penny
Stockton
Payton
Wilkins
Thomas
Kidd - you can put him on 2000 but he did play 6 years in the 90s and was considered a top player then
Hill

Tier 1 - allstars generally considered top 15-30 in the league
Harper (before his knee blew out)
Mullin
Mashburn
Glen Rice
Steve Smith
Reggie Miller
Kevin Johnson
Mark Price
Mitch Richmond
Drazen Petrovich - Had he not passed away he would definately be in this tier
Latrell Sprewell

Tier 1 - top 30-60 players who had good years and were solid for a long time
Michael Finley - had some 20PPG in the 90's i know more of an 00 player maybe?!?!?!
Jimmy Jackson
Cliff Robinson
Mark Jackson
Rod Strickland
Nick Anderson
Dale Ellis
Detlef Schremph
Joe Dumars
Nick Van Exle
Vin Baker
Glen Robinson SR
Sean Elliot
Terry Porter
Eddie Jones
Terrel Brandon
Damon Stoudamire (mighty mouse)



Tier 2 - Solid role players/ specialist
Stacy Augman
Mookie Blaylock
Chuck Person
Wes Person
Dennis Scott
BJ Armstrong
Avery Johnson
Steve Kerr
John Paxon
Robert Horry
Sam Cassel
Vernon Maxwell
Doc Rivers
Dana Barros
Michael Adams

I know you and @Malta will be coming for my throat but i'm ready,. Like i said, even if you list more, it's still not some blowout like people think it is honestly. I'll take quality over quantity anyday unless it's fast food.
 

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There isn't a decline of big men protecting the paint, there has been a decline of offensive 5s, not tall ass nikkas in the lane blocking shots :russ:

How many C's today are really PF's masquerading at them? (i'm looking at the best C dwight howard as my example) He's a PF 20 years ago is he not?
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Alright i won't include someone like Ivy on the 90's since his prime was in the 00's.

Here goes nothing. I will include PG, SG, and SF's placed into tiers.


Gawwwd Tier
MJ

Tier 0 - Superstars/ Hall of famers/ top 10 players in their prime.
Pippen
Drexler
Penny
Stockton
Payton
Wilkins
Thomas
Kidd - you can put him on 2000 but he did play 6 years in the 90s and was considered a top player then
Hill

Tier 1 - allstars generally considered top 15-30 in the league
Harper (before his knee blew out)
Mullin
Mashburn
Glen Rice
Steve Smith
Reggie Miller
Kevin Johnson
Mark Price
Mitch Richmond
Drazen Petrovich - Had he not passed away he would definately be in this tier
Latrell Sprewell

Tier 1 - top 30-60 players who had good years and were solid for a long time
Michael Finley - had some 20PPG in the 90's i know more of an 00 player maybe?!?!?!
Jimmy Jackson
Cliff Robinson
Mark Jackson
Rod Strickland
Nick Anderson
Dale Ellis
Detlef Schremph
Joe Dumars
Nick Van Exle
Vin Baker
Glen Robinson SR
Sean Elliot
Terry Porter
Eddie Jones
Terrel Brandon
Damon Stoudamire (mighty mouse)



Tier 2 - Solid role players/ specialist
Stacy Augman
Mookie Blaylock
Chuck Person
Wes Person
Dennis Scott
BJ Armstrong
Avery Johnson
Steve Kerr
John Paxon
Robert Horry
Sam Cassel
Vernon Maxwell
Doc Rivers
Dana Barros
Michael Adams

I know you and @Malta will be coming for my throat but i'm ready,. Like i said, even if you list more, it's still not some blowout like people think it is honestly. I'll take quality over quantity anyday unless it's fast food.



I don't even need to make a long post, the second best perimeter player now is worlds better than everyone not named Jordan that you listed.


Ain't nobody on that list even thought of anyone remotely like KD, let alone had to defend him.
 

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lol, Bron stans cryin as if they don't make threads about Kobe unprovoked. Don't get mad cuz Kobe could score more than 61 in only 3 quarters against a far superior team. :mjpls:
Shooting 25 free throws and throwing up 19 3 pointers tho
 

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Alright i won't include someone like Ivy on the 90's since his prime was in the 00's.

Here goes nothing. I will include PG, SG, and SF's placed into tiers.


Gawwwd Tier
MJ

Tier 0 - Superstars/ Hall of famers/ top 10 players in their prime.
Pippen
Drexler
Penny
Stockton
Payton
Wilkins
Thomas
Kidd - you can put him on 2000 but he did play 6 years in the 90s and was considered a top player then
Hill

Tier 1 - allstars generally considered top 15-30 in the league
Harper (before his knee blew out)
Mullin
Mashburn
Glen Rice
Steve Smith
Reggie Miller
Kevin Johnson
Mark Price
Mitch Richmond
Drazen Petrovich - Had he not passed away he would definately be in this tier
Latrell Sprewell

Tier 1 - top 30-60 players who had good years and were solid for a long time
Michael Finley - had some 20PPG in the 90's i know more of an 00 player maybe?!?!?!
Jimmy Jackson
Cliff Robinson
Mark Jackson
Rod Strickland
Nick Anderson
Dale Ellis
Detlef Schremph
Joe Dumars
Nick Van Exle
Vin Baker
Glen Robinson SR
Sean Elliot
Terry Porter
Eddie Jones
Terrel Brandon
Damon Stoudamire (mighty mouse)



Tier 2 - Solid role players/ specialist
Stacy Augman
Mookie Blaylock
Chuck Person
Wes Person
Dennis Scott
BJ Armstrong
Avery Johnson
Steve Kerr
John Paxon
Robert Horry
Sam Cassel
Vernon Maxwell
Doc Rivers
Dana Barros
Michael Adams

I know you and @Malta will be coming for my throat but i'm ready,. Like i said, even if you list more, it's still not some blowout like people think it is honestly. I'll take quality over quantity anyday unless it's fast food.


Goddamn breh:damn:


I just came back to this thread and seen you actually did a list. :salute: and + rep for the effort.
 

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