Why was Ronald Reagan so beloved by CACs?
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Fillerguy
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I'd say his presidency was mediocre. Reagan's first term was Jimmy Carter 2.0 with better lyrics. He's influential better of what he stood for, the modern Republican Party. He revived the GOP while the democrats were looking flabby and sick. He was a great speaker, made it easier for the public to understand and accept his failure policies unless some Presidents 
Also the GOP hyped up Reagan's story even after his presidency ended. Democrats did the same for another mediocre President, JFK.
But he pretty much was the devil
Also the GOP hyped up Reagan's story even after his presidency ended. Democrats did the same for another mediocre President, JFK.But he pretty much was the devil
gameover82
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always though...in the reagan era if your rich and white the sky was the limit but if you was poor and black who the fukk cared
NZA
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I'd say his presidency was mediocre. Reagan's first term was Jimmy Carter 2.0 with better lyrics. He's influential better of what he stood for, the modern Republican Party. He revived the GOP while the democrats were looking flabby and sick. He was a great speaker, made it easier for the public to understand and accept his failure policies unless some Presidents
But he pretty much was the devil
This!
Whenever people get into that whole fukk Obama thing on any website, it amazes me whenever they bring up JFK and his 2 and three quarter years in office, and that infamous speech on Youtube about "secret societies" and he so so so amazing compared to people today because of how he stood for what he believed in and how he hated "liberals" and all this sugar coating nonsense.
Reagan was just straight up horrible. Any person who did not do a good job with the poor/middle class should not be called a great president in any way. The people hyping him and talking about how superb he is(I have a friend from HS that told me his father has so much respect for Reagan and even has a photo of him in their house and they both agree he was phenomenal
.But the people hyping him up so much, can never answer with a straight response what did he do DOMESTICALLY to help people? Particularly the poor and the middle class. It took this dude towards the end of his term in office to even say the word "AIDS" and before that he treated it like a big joke.
He took certain people out of the hospitals and made them end up homeless in the street when they had nowhere else to to go......and im sure alot of us heard about how he treated Alzheimers disease......
Whether or not we agree that Reagan helped the middle class, middle-class yupsters loved and STILL love him because he presided over a macroeconomic recovery.
The middle class felt more secure in the 80s than it did in the late 70s, at least in terms of price level and employment. That and the collapse of the Berlin wall will ALWAYS be his legacy.
To argue whether he deserves credit for either of those things is to ask the more fundamental question of whether any president deserves much credit for anything. (See: Obama getting credit for the assassination of Bin Laden).
I'm not disputing that the middle class was cleaved in two during the Reagan administration or that the wealthiest Americans were the primary beneficiaries of his tax policy. But to say that everyone but the rich had nothing to thank the Reagan administration for is a gross oversimplification, as is calling him the devil and all of that bullshyt.
If Ronald Reagan ran in the Republican primaries of today, you would all be hailing him as the most level-headed man on the right. No question.
Personally, I think people overrate Kennedy WAAAAAY more than Reagan, and Reagan is damn-near worshipped as a saint.
The middle class felt more secure in the 80s than it did in the late 70s, at least in terms of price level and employment. That and the collapse of the Berlin wall will ALWAYS be his legacy.
To argue whether he deserves credit for either of those things is to ask the more fundamental question of whether any president deserves much credit for anything. (See: Obama getting credit for the assassination of Bin Laden).
I'm not disputing that the middle class was cleaved in two during the Reagan administration or that the wealthiest Americans were the primary beneficiaries of his tax policy. But to say that everyone but the rich had nothing to thank the Reagan administration for is a gross oversimplification, as is calling him the devil and all of that bullshyt.
If Ronald Reagan ran in the Republican primaries of today, you would all be hailing him as the most level-headed man on the right. No question.
Personally, I think people overrate Kennedy WAAAAAY more than Reagan, and Reagan is damn-near worshipped as a saint.
kermit da hustla
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much of it has to do with his policy regarding black america, stretching back to his tenure in california. he went up against the black panthers, striking a pose as the savior of a white america embattled by the 60s/70s civil rights era. as someone already said, they also appreciate his assault on the poor.
superunknown23
Superstar
Republicans lionize him because they got nobody else. Teddy Roosevelt and Ike would be called communists by teabaggers today, and they'd rather forget about Hoover, Nixon, Bush 1 and George W.
As for black people...
*Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Miss., which at the time was known for only one thing: the Ku Klux Klan murder of three civil rights workers. Reagan, using the code words of the day, said, “I believe in states rights.” (just like George Wallace, Orval Faubus and other white southern politicians before him)
*Reagan was opposed to the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 (a referendum on Jim Crow).
*He was also opposed to the Fair Housing Act, saying: "“If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, he has a right to do so.”
*As president, he actually tried to weaken the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (he called it a great insult to the South).
*He tried to veto the Civil Rights Restoration Act passed by Congress to overturn a Supreme Court ruling (Grove City v. Bell) that limited the remedies available to the federal government when going after private organizations that receive federal subsidies. The democratic-led Congress overrode Reagan’s veto.
*He tried to get rid of the federal ban on tax exemptions for private schools that practiced racial discrimination (Bob Jones University). Congress blocked it.
*In 1988, he opposed a bill to expand the reach of federal civil rights legislation. The democratic Congress overrode the veto.
*Reagan also opposed the imposition of sanctions on the apartheid regime in South Africa. The Democratic Congress overrode that veto, too.
After one of Reagan's pro-apartheid speeches, the normally mild-mannered Bishop Desmond Tutu said: “I found it quite nauseating. I think the West can go to hell…Your president is the pits as far as blacks are concerned. He sits there like the great, big white chief of old.”
*He referenced to black women as "Cadillac-driving welfare queens" (nevermind that most welfare recipients are white)
*When MLK was murdered, he argued that he had it coming. Reagan said it was just the sort of “great tragedy that began when we began compromising with law and order, and people started choosing which laws they’d break.”
*He opposed the MLK holiday: When John Conyers introduced the bill with the backing of the NAACP, Reagan vowed to veto it.
He only signed it after the democratic Congress passed the law with a veto-proof majority. All 22 senators who opposed it were republicans.
Reagan signed the law grudgingly, noting he did so because “Congress seemed bent on making it a national holiday.”
Black people didn't hate him by accident. He was a racist, plain and simple.
He also held up funding for AIDS research for 3 years after it was initially described as a "gay disease" by Jerry Falwell and the Christian right.
As for black people...
*Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Miss., which at the time was known for only one thing: the Ku Klux Klan murder of three civil rights workers. Reagan, using the code words of the day, said, “I believe in states rights.” (just like George Wallace, Orval Faubus and other white southern politicians before him)
*Reagan was opposed to the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 (a referendum on Jim Crow).
*He was also opposed to the Fair Housing Act, saying: "“If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, he has a right to do so.”
*As president, he actually tried to weaken the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (he called it a great insult to the South).
*He tried to veto the Civil Rights Restoration Act passed by Congress to overturn a Supreme Court ruling (Grove City v. Bell) that limited the remedies available to the federal government when going after private organizations that receive federal subsidies. The democratic-led Congress overrode Reagan’s veto.
*He tried to get rid of the federal ban on tax exemptions for private schools that practiced racial discrimination (Bob Jones University). Congress blocked it.
*In 1988, he opposed a bill to expand the reach of federal civil rights legislation. The democratic Congress overrode the veto.
*Reagan also opposed the imposition of sanctions on the apartheid regime in South Africa. The Democratic Congress overrode that veto, too.
After one of Reagan's pro-apartheid speeches, the normally mild-mannered Bishop Desmond Tutu said: “I found it quite nauseating. I think the West can go to hell…Your president is the pits as far as blacks are concerned. He sits there like the great, big white chief of old.”
*He referenced to black women as "Cadillac-driving welfare queens" (nevermind that most welfare recipients are white)
*When MLK was murdered, he argued that he had it coming. Reagan said it was just the sort of “great tragedy that began when we began compromising with law and order, and people started choosing which laws they’d break.”
*He opposed the MLK holiday: When John Conyers introduced the bill with the backing of the NAACP, Reagan vowed to veto it.
He only signed it after the democratic Congress passed the law with a veto-proof majority. All 22 senators who opposed it were republicans.
Reagan signed the law grudgingly, noting he did so because “Congress seemed bent on making it a national holiday.”
Black people didn't hate him by accident. He was a racist, plain and simple.
He also held up funding for AIDS research for 3 years after it was initially described as a "gay disease" by Jerry Falwell and the Christian right.
My father dislikes Reagan but he only says he did one good thing and that was the amnesty for the illegals.
My dad was part of the group of Somalis in this country that were sort of elites back home so they could come to the country to study and what not. A lot of the Somalis were scattered but quite a few including my father and mother's families lived here in the DC/MD/VA area. The refugees in the 90s came to MIN and OH. Anyway, His visa expired around that time and a lot of his friends married African American women to stay in the USA
my dad was about to do that but the immigration bill was passed and he found my mom who's also Somali later that year 
if Reagan didn't sign that bill, I might not be here
My dad was part of the group of Somalis in this country that were sort of elites back home so they could come to the country to study and what not. A lot of the Somalis were scattered but quite a few including my father and mother's families lived here in the DC/MD/VA area. The refugees in the 90s came to MIN and OH. Anyway, His visa expired around that time and a lot of his friends married African American women to stay in the USA
my dad was about to do that but the immigration bill was passed and he found my mom who's also Somali later that year if Reagan didn't sign that bill, I might not be here
superunknown23
Superstar
He didn't sign that shyt out of compassion. No, he did it because he thought that latinos would embrace the GOP as a result (since they were supposed to be socially conservative).My father dislikes Reagan but he only says he did one good thing and that was the amnesty for the illegals.
My dad was part of the group of Somalis in this country that were sort of elites back home so they could come to the country to study and what not. A lot of the Somalis were scattered but quite a few including my father and mother's families lived here in the DC/MD/VA area. The refugees in the 90s came to MIN and OH. Anyway, His visa expired around that time and a lot of his friends married African American women to stay in the USA
if Reagan didn't sign that bill, I might not be here
Immigrants basically said "thanks for the amnesty... We still ain't voting for you though"
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