Why wasn't Biz Markie criticized for making 'Just A Friend' back in the day?

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You're on here complaining about a 17 year old having fun and dancing.

You're on here trying to shyt on dudes in their 20's dancing back in the 80's having fun and dancing.

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[surv2syn]

So you understand drake then.

I do. I understand him. I like some of the stuff he does, particularly his features. I have his albums on file but I just never had the urge to get around to listening to them. I dont check for him like that but he makes some dope shyt if I happen to catch it. He hasnt grasped me yet with anything he has done to make me say...I'mma start checking for him. He is extremely talented I will say and there is nothing wrong with what he does. I just havent gotten into his brand of music as a whole...thats all. When I am in the mood to hear a rappin ass nikka though...Drake or Big Sean, guys like that...they never cross my mind.

 

[TEKBEATZ]

you kids wont understand what hiphop is because you didnt come up around it. you grew up on pop culture shyt like jay-z, puffy, and whatever radio stations forced you to like. hip hop culture that us older folks know of died pretty much around when big/pac died.

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

You're on here trying to shyt on dudes in their 20's dancing back in the 80's having fun and dancing.

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No. I'm pointing out the hypocritical different interpretations between 25-30 year olds dancing and a 17 year old dancing.

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

I do. I understand him. I like some of the stuff he does, particularly his features. I have his albums on file but I just never had the urge to get around to listening to them. I dont check for him like that but he makes some dope shyt if I happen to catch it. He hasnt grasped me yet with anything he has done to make me say...I'mma start checking for him. He is extremely talented I will say and there is nothing wrong with what he does. I just havent gotten into his brand of music as a whole...thats all. When I am in the mood to hear a rappin ass nikka though...Drake or Big Sean, guys like that...they never cross my mind.

Like you said, if you don't like it, don't fukk with it. It resonates with others, like mos def's singy songy songs probably resonate with others.

They both think they can sing. One actually has hit songs and albums with him doing both though.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

No. I'm pointing out the hypocritical different interpretations between 25-30 year olds dancing and a 17 year old dancing.

There's nothing hypocritical about dancing regardless of age. What's wrong is comparing those who can actually dance well to those who just fukk around.

No one would compare Hammer to D4L.

No one should compare Biz Markie to Drake.
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[surv2syn]

Like you said, if you don't like it, don't fukk with it. It resonates with others, like mos def's singy songy songs probably resonate with others.

They both think they can sing. One actually has hit songs and albums with him doing both though.

yeah, Drake gets a lot of hate on this site. I dont really fukk with him, but I do think he is necessary. I also dont view him as detrimental like some other rap artists that are out there. Drake has something to offer...and he should be recognized for what he is and not so heavily criticized for what he is not.

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

There's nothing hypocritical about dancing regardless of age. What's wrong is comparing those who can actually dance well to those who just fukk around.

No one would compare Hammer to D4L.

No one should compare Biz Markie to Drake.
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Well, if life is fun and one is to just enjoy it, why can't a 17 year old just have fun and dance? Why are you hating on a teenager and applauding 25 year olds?

You aren't the authority on dancing. Kid n play corny dance moves were probably the shyt to you as a teen in the 80's.

As a 30 year old man, soulja boy's dance moves probably weren't as appealing to you, but he blew up on that dance and song alone and had people worldwide doing something you call as just "fukking around". Life is fun. Looks like he enjoyed it.

Of course biz markie shouldn't be compared to drake. Drake has multiple platinum albums under his belt and isn't known for just one song.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Well, if life is fun and one is to just enjoy it, why can't a 17 year old just have fun and dance? Why are you hating on a teenager and applauding 25 year olds?

You aren't the authority on dancing. Kid n play corny dance moves were probably the shyt to you as a teen in the 80's.

That was the culture back then so, of course, they weren't corny, but I was a break-dancer and appreciated the moves a bit more than the cats in the clubs. The coordination alone was incredible.​

As a 30 year old man, soulja boy's dance moves probably weren't as appealing to you, but he blew up on that dance and song alone and had people worldwide doing something you call as just "fukking around". Life is fun. Looks like he enjoyed it.

That just showed how watered-down the scene had become. People putting nearly no thought into performing just to get money and took no pride in the art they represented lead to what some call the 'death' of hip-hop. I think that was premature conjecture as there were still good artists/performers out there who do the culture justice......just NOT Soulja Boy.​

Of course biz markie shouldn't be compared to drake. Drake has multiple platinum albums under his belt and isn't known for just one song.

Stop it. Biz is a pioneer and that's the reason why he can't be compared to Drake. Record sales has absolutely nothing to do with it. And if you think Biz is only known for one song, you're buggin'. I'll let Biz tell you himself....

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[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

That was the culture back then so, of course, they weren't corny, but I was a break-dancer and appreciated the moves a bit more than the cats in the clubs. The coordination alone was incredible.​

That just showed how watered-down the scene had become. People putting nearly no thought into performing just to get money and took no pride in the art they represented lead to what some call the 'death' of hip-hop. I think that was premature conjecture as there were still good artists/performers out there who do the culture justice......just NOT Soulja Boy.​

Stop it. Biz is a pioneer and that's the reason why he can't be compared to Drake. Record sales has absolutely nothing to do with it. And if you think Biz is only known for one song, you're buggin'. I'll let Biz tell you himself....

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You're going in a circle, my man. One minute, "life is fun, just enjoy it." Next minute, a 17 year old in 2007 can't have fun because that's not how the culture was in 2007? No culture can decide when it is and isn't time for a child to have fun. Kids have fun, period. You wanting a 17 year old to spit some metaphysical rhymes to you as a 30 year old man says more about you than it does about the 17 year old.

Success wise - financially and musically - biz doesn't hold a candle to drake. You're superimposing how you see biz to how you think the world sees biz. Unless you're an old hip hop head, when you mention biz markie to people, they'll know him for "just a friend", but even then they probably still won't know him. That was the song that introduced him to a world outside the hip hop crowd. Drizzy got hits for days. Drizzy's global.

 

[Danie84]

That song used to go hard at the babysitter

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You're going in a circle, my man. One minute, "life is fun, just enjoy it." Next minute, a 17 year old in 2007 can't have fun because that's not how the culture was in 2007? No culture can decide when it is and isn't time for a child to have fun. Kids have fun, period. You wanting a 17 year old to spit some metaphysical rhymes to you as a 30 year old man says more about you than it does about the 17 year old.

Nothing in my post even came close to that misguided diatribe of bovine excrement you're spouting.​

Success wise - financially and musically - biz doesn't hold a candle to drake. You're superimposing how you see biz to how you think the world sees biz. Unless you're an old hip hop head, when you mention biz markie to people, they'll know him for "just a friend", but even then they probably still won't know him. That was the song that introduced him to a world outside the hip hop crowd. Drizzy got hits for days. Drizzy's global.

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Wrong. The song I posted is how us 'Old Heads' know who Biz is since that was the one that introduced him to us along with 'Make the Music with Your Mouth, Biz'. He had already gained access outside the hip-hop crowd with 'Vapors'. As far as how the world sees Biz........



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[Big Mel]

For clarity, Biz has multiple plaques too.

 

[Raw Lyrics]

I see... whats the chemistry behind all other liquors being poison, but not hennessey?
And I am a henny drinker... no snifter, no coke, no cup, no ice... straight out the bottle
naS stans bein the dumbest nikkaz on the planet.......again

First off, he never referenced liquor throughout the entire song. Secondly, if you want to equate Ecstasy which is a dangerous concoction of several different powerful chemicals to liquor (maybe cause you ingest all of them and can't tell the difference) then that's on you.

Cocaine is also much worse than liquor, in that it's harder to use sparingly - whereas it's much more doable with alcohol. And no, I've never tried cocaine, I'm speaking off observation.

The song mainly addresses, out-of-wedlock children, STD's, media propaganda, materialism, self-hate and even references fast-food as being poison. The context I draw on the fast-food reference is, eating it every day for breakfast, lunch, and dinner is poisonous - not occasionally. Obviously, you can draw a conclusion that an abuse of alcohol would fall under poison as well.

However, a lot of people including myself, can drink alcohol on occasion without abusing it. Maybe you come from drug addicted parents and your genetic make-up results in you being more susceptible to alcohol abuse...but please don't speak for the rest of us and please don't attribute lyrics, that don't even exist, to a song that you can easily Google.

EDIT: He even references dead-beat daddies who spend all their money on marijuana as oppose to their children. Nas is an admitted weed-head, so if he's condemning marijuana he's condemning himself....but he's not...it's called context, something you'd do well to learn about.

 

[Kendrick Llama]

Cos the song is top 5 OAT fakkit