Why were there more black on black crime in the 70s(before rap) than now?

[Poitier]

So zay you going to completely ignore the effects of the Vietnam war, exposure to lead, and urban decay?

This only strengthens his point

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

This only strengthens his point

Not really a lot of those issues have been cleaned up. What are the excuses now?

 

[ridedolo]

this convo is disingenuous if theres not one mention of the 70s blaxploitation films that glorified/normalized destructive behavior .

 

[PhonZhi]

@PhonZhi

First, rap has little to do today with people blowing each others heads off directly. Its not as simple and cut & dry as a person puts on headphones, hears violent lyrics and gets the desire to kill. Its much more complex than that. If a white kid went and shot up his school after listening to violent punk rock music, people wouldn't simply point to the music as the blame, so it would be idiotic to think rap is causing the same violent reactions in the black community.

People would look at that white kids environment, upbringing and family structure to diagnose the issues. The music would simply be "gas on top of the fire".

The problem is that lots of people outright deny that rap could potentially be this "gas on top of the fire" in certain people's lives. I've even seen posters state verbatim that "music itself has zero affect on the human psyche", so this will always be a very divisive topic

Secondly, today (with it being the most popular & influential art form on the planet) rap is moreso used to promote and glorify the MINDSET that white supremacists wants blacks to be in. Remember: white supremacy cannot thrive without our participation.

Also its used heavily as "media propaganda" to continue the demonization of the black image GLOBALLY. Its used to keep the most negative stereotypes of black people in the mainstream conscious.

Actual physical violence is probably the LEAST side effect of rap for black people. Its more a psychological and image hinderance.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

source?

Look up chicago white gangs like the popes, Simon city royals n gaylords

 

[Poitier]

Not really a lot of those issues have been cleaned up. What are the excuses now?

Urban decay and exposure to lead has been cleaned up?

 

[PhonZhi]

@BmoreGorilla will cosign this INTENTIONAL push of certain rap music

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Look up chicago white gangs like the popes, Simon city royals n gaylords

They were throwing up signs

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Urban decay and exposure to lead has been cleaned up?

well for one lead isn't in gasoline anymore. that's a pretty big deal isn't it? and urban decay isn't nearly as bad. you're wrong.

 

[Poitier]

well for one lead isn't in gasoline anymore. that's a pretty big deal isn't it? and urban decay isn't nearly as bad. you're wrong.

 

[Larry Lambo]

Nothing new under the sun, man.

The entire history of civilization has been violent. Why would it be any different then or now?

 

[Sauce Dab]

Glad this thread was made. I make this same argument in every rap is evil and it usually gets ignored or deflected

I thought you were more on the old head side? Saying everything was cool until the new generation came in

 

[Bawon Samedi]

This is why I always clown these corn balls and old nikkas who swear Hip Hop/Rap is the cause of the violence in the black community. Anyone who believes that is a dumbass. All Hip Hop/Rap at BEST does is reflect the violence thats all...

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Y'all a bunch of kids barely 25. my pops lived in that era. them nikkas squared up. there was no crack and guns like today. It was more two parent homes and definitely not near as violent as today.

STFU and look at the stats posted in the OP.

 

[hayesc0]

Population might've been larger

Blacks murdered by other races

Gangs we're really jumping off

and nikkas we're probably dying everytime they got shot vs now where a lot of dudes live

I don't think medical advances are part of it seems like triage medicine hasn't changed much. Also population is larger now easily.