Exactly, these schools huge fan and alummi bases that most schools don't have; which is what makes them attractive advertising wise for TV, apparel, etc.
Not if they don't schedule them
, especially considering if they're going to get crushed.
Why wont all the black players go to the black schools in college?
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Exactly, these schools huge fan and alummi bases that most schools don't have; which is what makes them attractive advertising wise for TV, apparel, etc.
Not if they don't schedule them
, especially considering if they're going to get crushed.
1. There is no way they can know this for sure.
2. College administrators aren't the most trustworthy people.
3. Why should a kid care about the future of kids after him? He's just trying to make it to the pros.
and theres no way that we can know that what you said would work either
we both know that athletes coming to hbcus and generating money for black schools certainly wouldn't hurt anything
Mindfield333
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You need to let that dream go my nikka
How about you wait a few years until your son is an All-American and tell him to choose Morgan State over UMD, Clemson, UVA, UNC, etc....
i mean, Aldolph Rupp of Kentucky was racist as shyt and didnt ever want to see black player on his squad... but look at Ky now.
same rules apply.
and theres no way that we can know that what you said would work either
we both know that athletes coming to hbcus and generating money for black schools certainly wouldn't hurt anything
Like I said earlier, Delaware State's endowment in 2012 was 17 million.
Grambling's endowment that year was 4.5 million. That's the problem before all this bullshyt about 5 star athletes. How the fukk can you run a school on a 4.5 million dollar budget? What you're basically trying to do is roll alongside Lupita N'yongo in a Chevy hooptie and asking her to hop inside and ride with you to tour crib. Nah son. You need a better ride first, and the best way to earn more money is to find and produce more wealthy donors.
Ya'll really think these grandiose, unrealistic ideas are goin' to get us anywhere?
Really, a mass exodus to Howard, Hampton University, Florida A&M, etc.???
Anybody care to break the logistics to make that feasible or are we just gonna keep suggesting all-black leagues, then get mad when it doesn't happen so we can call our fellow black men, "c**ns" so we can continue with this inferiority complex?
Let's atleast get alumni's to contribute to the back and get them back on track.
Really, a mass exodus to Howard, Hampton University, Florida A&M, etc.???
Anybody care to break the logistics to make that feasible or are we just gonna keep suggesting all-black leagues, then get mad when it doesn't happen so we can call our fellow black men, "c**ns" so we can continue with this inferiority complex?
Let's atleast get alumni's to contribute to the back and get them back on track.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
Exactly, these schools huge fan and alummi bases that most schools don't have; which is what makes them attractive advertising wise for TV, apparel, etc.
Not if they don't schedule them
Back in the day, yes. But today it's not cool to show your racism. Be racist? Oh that's fine. Display racism?
They wouldn't be able to hide the obvious best teams. And as far as scheduling, it would be the white schools not on the schedule because the elites would only compete against the elites.
None of these power conferences would have TV deals without power players. Who would pay millions to air a garbage team that no one would watch because they're too busy watching the SWAC championship.
You think scouts are gonna ignore the dominance at black schools just because they're black schools? This is business. The scouts go where the talent is.
Mindfield333
Superstar
its more about being self-sufficient.
These responses are exactly why I am ASHAMED of my people. No foresight. No planning. No unity. This is exactly why we're in the situation we're in now. You brothas have been conditioned. Even your conditioning has been conditioned.
Ifmy theorythe facts I presented sound good in theory then it would be beautiful in reality.
But it all goes back to your conditioning. You do realize the top programs used to not allow black people to play at all right? Once they started letting them in THEN the HBCU's stood no chance. But they could have shunned the white schools then and met them on the field. That would have completely changed the dynamics of college sports. The way it is now has already been established. What I'm trying to get you c00ns to understand is that if we stayed at HBCU's after integration, guess who would have been the powerhouses. Texas with all white players or Grambling with all black players? You talk about facilities but fail to mention that one of the main reasons white schools have better facilities is BLACK PLAYERS. Take all the black players and put them at HBCU's and FAMU dominates FSU. Southern dominates LSU. As such, the FAMUs and the Southerns would get all those millions that the FSUs and the LSUs make off the black players.
You talk about exposure and competition. Scouts are going where the talent is. Period. If all the talent was at HBCUs, then all the scouts would be at HBCUs.
You guys are talking about 2015 as if this isn't a century old system. Of course now it would be hard to get every black recruit to sacrifice and go to an inferior program but our failures began decades ago. This ties into that "Black People Are Cowards" thread. Insteada fighting for ours then and now, we just accept being accepted.
Like I said... 5 star thread but the c00ns are out in broad daylight.
Mindfield333
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like 40 years ago black people going to pwi was considered a grandiose, unrealistic idea.
Back in the day, yes. But today it's not cool to show your racism. Be racist? Oh that's fine. Display racism?
They wouldn't be able to hide the obvious best teams. And as far as scheduling, it would be the white schools not on the schedule because the elites would only compete against the elites.
None of these power conferences would have TV deals without power players. Who would pay millions to air a garbage team that no one would watch because they're too busy watching the SWAC championship.
You think scouts are gonna ignore the dominance at black schools just because they're black schools? This is business. The scouts go where the talent is.
If all the black players (which I dunno how that would work unless you're talking about just elite talent) leave, then I think they would give two fukks about possible racism accusations. You're really understating the cult-like atmosphere a lot of these schools have with their fan bases. I'm not saying that HBCU's wouldn't be better off or not profitable, but you def wouldn't see the level of hysteria and fandom (and all the financial perks that come with it) due to HBCUs not having the extravagant financial endowment and alummi base of these other schools.
You can't just walk into a kid's home (with his parents by his side) and convince them to come to our school because the white man is the devil. It's 2014. They have the internet. Chances are they've fukked a white chick or two. That's your primary recruiting pitch? Maybe if you get to those kids when they're younger and keep in touch (like Lane Kiffin) but that's too much work.
no its not too much work, it is work that must be done if Black People don't want to continue to be exploited financially by other people....but build something of worth on their own
Nowhere near the same thing.
The actual foundation of HBCU's is, seemingly, fallin' apart.
Have your read some of these reports comin' out?
Again, everybody's got these emotion position ("They need to leave these RACIST, WHITE SCHOOLS
!") as if this is some type of moral mission.We all just saw how Grambling was treating their football team. I'm supposed to be demanding Jamies Winston transfer there or pull his black card?
grambling is just one school tho.
as far as the question you asked in your previous post: no, i wouldnt want to play for grambling at 18 or 28. but i wouldnt care about those fancy-pants facilities you posted up either.
thats because the talent usually doesnt attend those schools. you act as if the schools create basketball stars out of thin air.
as for the bolded, it should be the other way around really. if youre a top recruit, then it shouldnt matter where you play. youre already made while youre still in high school. andrew wiggins didnt need kansas. jabari parker didnt have to attend duke.
exactly.
ive heard stories where darn near entire senior classes left the school without degrees.
Galactically stupid comment. None of these kids are finished products when they leave school, not even Lebron. Who they play with, who they play against, and who coaches them matters a great deal.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
I'm not saying that HBCU's wouldn't be better off or not profitable, but you def wouldn't see the level of hysteria and fandom (and all the financial perks that come with it) due to HBCUs not having the extravagant financial endowment and alummi base of these other schools.
What you're failing to realize is that black players are very much responsible for all that tradition. If black players never went to Alabama, there's no way the Tide would be able to compete in college football today or any day in the last 50 years. As such, you wouldn't have a cult-like atmosphere or rabid fan base. These fan bases developed because the teams were winning. The teams were winning because they had top talent. They had top talent because they offered scholarships to black players.
BLACK PLAYERS=WINNING and WINNING=MONEY
Therefore: BLACK PLAYERS=MONEY