Why would a record label buy it's own albums?

[Capitol]

THIS, again?

I'm sorry breh.

It kinda makes no sense for Wayne to buy his own albums, especially for The Carter 4 in particular, when he was already by far the most popular rapper in the mainstream. He had no where to go but up at that point so what would be the purpose of doing that? You say it's for the marketing and all that, but as I said he was already at the top. There is nowhere to go from there. Anyone want to speak on that?

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

damn you guys are soooooo dumbbbbbbbbbbbb

 

[Long Live The Kane]

you are an idiot
there's no logic to it?

Imagine if JayZ releases an album and he only sells 80k

IMAGINE!!!!!!!

You think JayZ would allow that???

That'll be the end of him

So he adds to the losses everyone involved would take in that...by wasting another couple million to buy a couple hundred copies of his album to save face for one week instead?

Ignoring for a second, the logistics of buying several hundred thousand albums (not something you can send a handful of interns out to do...it'd be a fairly complicated feat, assuming you want to leave no paper trail or anything else that exposes your fraud, we're talking an intricate conspiracy)....you'd have to question why any major artist eventually flops...

Imagine Nelly only sells 90k first week of Brass Knuckles...or imagine even after an extra week of digital sales 50 Cent only 150k of BISD

Wait, that happened...why didn't Universal or Interscope not buy a half million copies of the albums? That would've somehow made the rest of the world give a fukk about them, push though albums to multi-plat and keep their cash cows going instead of falling off


The only situations (historically) where it makes sense to buy your own albums is if you're independent and you want to juice up your soundscan numbers to give the appearance of being bigger than you are to major labels...in an effort to either get yourself on their radar...or have more leverage in negotiations for your deal

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

How many times have you idiots seen a thread about an album someone posts a one-liner

"FLOP"

How many times have you seen that?
Dudes care too much about numbers man
People care about Kim Kardashian only because the media cares about her
People cared about Paris Hilton only because the media did

NOT the other way around

ya'll a bunch of sheeps yo
People are sheeps

You guys are sooooooooo dumbbbbbbbbbbbb

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

So he adds to the losses everyone involved would take in that...by wasting another couple million to buy a couple hundred copies of his album to save face for one week instead?

First week sales is where the marketing is at
I mean come on man.... you already know that!!!

Ignoring for a second, the logistics of buying several hundred thousand albums (not something you can send a handful of interns out to do...it'd be a fairly complicated feat, assuming you want to leave no paper trail or anything else that exposes your fraud, we're talking an intricate conspiracy)....you'd have to question why any major artist eventually flops...

According to 50 Cent they go to maa and paa shops
Offer them alot of free gifts to keep passing the same credit card for the same album.
They send their goons(slaves) to do this for them

Imagine Nelly only sells 90k first week of Brass Knuckles...or imagine even after an extra week of digital sales 50 Cent only 150k of BISD

Wait, that happened...why didn't Universal or Interscope not buy a half million copies of the albums? That would've somehow made the rest of the world give a fukk about them, push though albums to multi-plat and keep their cash cows going instead of falling off

I don't know!

See... you base your opinion on you are sure of things
I do not.

Maybe the buying from A to B was too large of a gap
Maybe they didn't want to sign a 360 agreement
Who knows....

I'm not saying EVERY artist does this
But many do

And i'm not naming names
But they do it
Just read the book Hit Men

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

it's about bragging rights...and riling up the public.

it's something carnies have been doing forever, planting people in crowds to rush lines to get other folks to give up their money for shyt.

a casual listener who doesn't really follow music like that hears such and such sold whatever amount in their first week.... they're gonna be inclined to cop, just cause of such a large number.


besides, these labels can easily recoup off tours, especially with these 360 deals.


everybody wins...artist get bragging rights/publicity, fans get albums, label gets money

 

[retroracer]

What everyone with any sense already said, plus the money to be made off features.

If an artist is able to create the illusion that he can sell records like that everyone is gonna want that person on a song; and with the feature fees guys like Wayne, get you'd make your money back in a month even if they do buy something like 300-400K albums.

 

[Edi]

i don't know but there is no gotdamn way c4 pushed a milli first week

even if Wayne's camp bought albums the first week

that record did 2 million(2,093,000), so it sold another million on its own, people went out and bought it

 

[Long Live The Kane]

I'm not saying EVERY artist does this

Just the ones that sell too much for our own personal likings....or in other words, a selectively used...unsubstantiated poorly thought out case of conspiratorial pseudo-logic

Got it

 

[Capitol]

even if Wayne's camp bought albums the first week

that record did 2 million, so it sold another million after its first week

Well according to the logic in this thread the allusion of an album being really popular makes it seem safe for others to buy

 

[DaveyDave]

The thing is, they're not actually going out and BUYING actual copies. The practice as I understand and remember off top is say you have some label rep buy 3 copies at one shop. Then they take them to another shop and scan them again even tho they didn't pay money for them. Do that a bunch of times and you have like 20 sales instead of 3. That's just one way to do t. Plus it's another way to fukk over the artist because all this would be covered in the contract and they would say all the albums they "buy" that way are not recoupable.

 

[bangedher_wholesquad]

If clooney is known to buy out theatres to ensure [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 spot[/URL] of course music. Artists do it to. Its like using steroids.

Don't listen to these dudes who deny it. They reek of street team industry folk.

Action like getting billboard #1 won't get u corporate sponsorship.

Lol

Foh

 

[Capitol]

If clooney is known to buy out theatres to ensure [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 spot[/URL] of course music. Artists do it to. Its like using steroids.

Don't listen to these dudes who deny it. They reek of street team industry folk.

Action like getting billboard #1 won't get u corporate sponsorship.

Lol

Foh

Not saying you lying, but do you have a link? Never heard of that

 

[JustCKing]

If companies did this, what's the point in even releasing albums? Why do huge artists flop? A lot of labels are doing a poor job of keeping up an illusion if that's the case.

 

[Shadow King]

The thing is, they're not actually going out and BUYING actual copies. The practice as I understand and remember off top is say you have some label rep buy 3 copies at one shop. Then they take them to another shop and scan them again even tho they didn't pay money for them. Do that a bunch of times and you have like 20 sales instead of 3. That's just one way to do t. Plus it's another way to fukk over the artist because all this would be covered in the contract and they would say all the albums they "buy" that way are not recoupable.

If companies did this, what's the point in even releasing albums? Why do huge artists flop? A lot of labels are doing a poor job of keeping up an illusion if that's the case.

Like folks have said, to be popular, you basically already gotta be popular. If artist X sells 200k first week, 75k might buy next week. But if you "sell" 450k first week, you probably intrigued another 75k more buy in the second week. Plus the features artist X will get in their 6 months of hotness/spotlight after the album drop.

And what HUGE artist has really flopped?