Wild Card Gym's Shane Langford's Facebook Rant on Mayweather Being a Cherry Picker

[HamAndEgger]

So when Floyd fought Mosely he wasn't [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 [/URL] p4p?? He didn't jus destroy Margarito?? Roach N didn't duck that same Shane N even want a catchweight?? Internet stans weren't claiming Floyd was ducking Shane N he was Scary??

At least speaking for myself, Floyd took that fight at the most opportune time. I was someone who wanted Shane to win, but I wasn't buying into the hype. He was ranked #3 P4P just off the Margarito win and wasn't even in the top 10 just prior and he went on to have a 16 month layoff, but still held on to the #3 spot P4P?

Still a good win for Floyd, but I think people were just happy the fight happened even YEARS after when everybody wanted to see it most.

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

At least speaking for myself, Floyd took that fight at the most opportune time. I was someone who wanted Shane to win, but I wasn't buying into the hype. He was ranked #3 P4P just off the Margarito win and wasn't even in the top 10 just prior and he went on to have a 16 month layoff, but still held on to the #3 spot P4P?

Still a good win for Floyd, but I think people were just happy the fight happened even YEARS after when everybody wanted to see it most.

EXACTLY


And thats the critics/experts ONLY issue with Mayweather- he picks fights at opportune times when the chances of him winning are greater. He tries to stack the cards in his favor. And its work great for him thus far in the sense that hes still undefeated. But history will tell a different tale bro. Unless he starts taking on some major challenges, i fear the Floyd we all know and love will just be considered a Rocky Marciano type champion-undefeated, obviously talented, but who did he really fight? And when he fought them, at what stage of their career were they at? Personally, I feel Mayweather would have had a great chance against prime versions of Judah, Cotto, Margarito, Tyszu, Williams, Martinez, Pacquiao, Mosley, Freitas, etc-who were all viewed as LEGITMATE challengers who could beat him. But the issue is he DIDNT fight them when they were in their primes, and instead has fighters like Ortiz, Guerrero, Mitchell, Gatti, N'Dou, Baldomir,Bruseles, Sosa, etc. Thats not a good look man.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Ugggghhh youre trynna draw me into another one of these debates bro! Whats the point ultimately?


I dont know what Mosley was rated p4p in the ring magazine in 2010. If you'd like you can look that up and post a pic since im sure the Pac stans will assault you if you dont have facts. What I will say is this (#factsonly)-

Mosley fought Margarito 1/24/2009. Afterwards, he attempted to secure a fight with Mayweather, and Mayweather said no.

Mosley then scheduled a bout with BERTO for 1/30/2010. Berto withdrew due to the earthquake in Haiti TWO DAYS BEFORE THE BOUT. It was then that Floyd agreed to fight him, and they did fight on 5/1/2010....

So in many experts/critics minds, Mosley was overtrained for the Mayweather fight cuz he had a full camp for Berto and then it was cancelled 2 days prior and 4 months later he was in the ring against Floyd. The body needs time to heal. So Mayweather fought a version of Mosley that not only was overtrained, but was coming off a year and a half long layoff at the age of 38


These are the facts. Draw your own conclusions from it.

So you cosign the CAC that said Floyd fought Shane after he had the draw wit Mora not after the Margarito destruction which was a lie

Then you talk bout Floyd never fights highly ranked guys

I bytch slap you with Shane was P4P #3 when Floyd beat his ass N you come up with excuses

I guess Floyd wasn't coming off a long layoff huh??

Carry on hating stan

 

[HamAndEgger]

So you cosign the CAC that said Floyd fought Shane after he had the draw wit Mora not after the Margarito destruction which was a lie

Then you talk bout Floyd never fights highly ranked guys

I bytch slap you with Shane was P4P #3 when Floyd beat his ass N you come up with excuses

I guess Floyd wasn't coming off a long layoff huh??

Carry on hating stan

Ironically enough, the last hiatus Mosley took that was similar in length was after his fight with Cotto where he fought Mayorga and looked like sh*t. This is also a 37 year old Mosley. He comes back months later and beats Margarito, then doesn't fight for another 16 months and goes in against Floyd. Stylistically I still think it's a tough fight for Shane, but the odds were stacked against Shane early on and I have no doubt Floyd saw that clear as day. He's not stupid.

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

So you cosign the CAC that said Floyd fought Shane after he had the draw wit Mora not after the Margarito destruction which was a lie

Then you talk bout Floyd never fights highly ranked guys
I bytch slap you with Shane was P4P #3 when Floyd beat his ass N you come up with excuses

I guess Floyd wasn't coming off a long layoff huh??
Carry on hating stan

Ummm, no I did not. I literally just told you who Mosley fought after Margarito. I even gave you dates bro.


Ummm, no I did not. I said the majority of the guys hes fought werent highly ranked within the divisions they were in, not all bro.


Floyd was coming off a 7.5 month layoff at age 33. Mosley was coming off a 16 month layoff at age 38.

#FACTSONLY

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Ironically enough, the last hiatus Mosley took that was similar in length was after his fight with Cotto where he fought Mayorga and looked like sh*t. This is also a 37 year old Mosley. He comes back months later and beats Margarito, then doesn't fight for another 16 months and goes in against Floyd. Stylistically I still think it's a tough fight for Shane, but the odds were stacked against Shane early on and I have no doubt Floyd saw that clear as day. He's not stupid.

That's all well N good but you can do that for any fight

For example
Pacquiao beat Cotto cuz he was drained
Ward beat Dawson cuz he was drained
Hopkins beat Tito cuz the mind games N the 911 layoff
Rigo beat Donaire cuz the 886535 excuse Nonito came up wit
Garcia beat Khan cuz Khan wanted the ko
Dawson beat Hopkins cuz BHops shoulder was still hurt
DLH lost to Mosely cuz of a bad oyster

I can go on N fukking on


The Fact of the matter is Floyd fought Shane after a huge W when he was P4P #3 while everyone said Floyd would duck....No fukking body was talking bout age or overtraining or Layoffs when Shane rocked Floyd twice so miss me with that bullshyt

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

That's all well N good but you can do that for any fight

For example
Pacquiao beat Cotto cuz he was drained
Ward beat Dawson cuz he was drained
Hopkins beat Tito cuz the mind games N the 911 layoff
Rigo beat Donaire cuz the 886535 excuse Nonito came up wit
Garcia beat Khan cuz Khan wanted the ko
Dawson beat Hopkins cuz BHops shoulder was still hurt
DLH lost to Mosely cuz of a bad oyster

I can go on N fukking on


The Fact of the matter is Floyd fought Shane after a huge W when he was P4P #3 while everyone said Floyd would duck....No fukking body was talking bout age or overtraining or Layoffs when Shane rocked Floyd twice so miss me with that bullshyt

Except, they were bro. I remember vividly when Brian Kenney brought that up to Floyd during an espn interview and floyd got upset. All the critics and experts were saying the same thing, cuz its TRUE b. The facts are the facts man. It is what it is. You draw your own conclusions from it and believe what you will.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Ummm, no I did not. I literally just told you who Mosley fought after Margarito. I even gave you dates bro.


Ummm, no I did not. I said the majority of the guys hes fought werent highly ranked within the divisions they were in, not all bro.


Floyd was coming off a 7.5 month layoff at age 33. Mosley was coming off a 16 month layoff at age 38.

#FACTSONLY

The fukking CAC said Floyd fought Shane after Mora....I pointed that shyt out....your very next post was FINALLY someone tells the truth talking bout the cacs rant

JMM is the only fighter since the comeback that Floyd fought that wasn't highly ranked at the weight.....N we all know what JMM can do at that weight

Oh N Floyd was coming off a long layoff tho

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Except, they were bro. I remember vividly when Brian Kenney brought that up to Floyd during an espn interview and floyd got upset. All the critics and experts were saying the same thing, cuz its TRUE b. The facts are the facts man. It is what it is. You draw your own conclusions from it and believe what you will.

How tf you goin quote half a sentence

The same Brian Kenney that said Floyd was ducking Baldomir?? Who according to revisionist Floyd never should have fought?? That Brian Kenney??

 

[HamAndEgger]

That's all well N good but you can do that for any fight

For example
Pacquiao beat Cotto cuz he was drained
Ward beat Dawson cuz he was drained
Hopkins beat Tito cuz the mind games N the 911 layoff
Rigo beat Donaire cuz the 886535 excuse Nonito came up wit
Garcia beat Khan cuz Khan wanted the ko
Dawson beat Hopkins cuz BHops shoulder was still hurt
DLH lost to Mosely cuz of a bad oyster

I can go on N fukking on


The Fact of the matter is Floyd fought Shane after a huge W when he was P4P #3 while everyone said Floyd would duck....No fukking body was talking bout age or overtraining or Layoffs when Shane rocked Floyd twice so miss me with that bullshyt

It is what it is. Had Shane lost to anyone else he'd be viewed as "Too Old" or "Passed it". Hell, they were saying that after the Cotto fight and there was retirement talks then (2007). Again, I'm not someone who disses Mayweather off GP because I actually like him as a fighter, but I just call it as it is. Floyd beat a good name that was clearly past his prime. If Margarito is the gauging point, so be it, but this is the same Margarito that Floyd fans say he would've "mopped" but it's an impressive enough win for Shane to make Floyd's win over him that much better? Better yet, who fought a better version of Shane, Cotto or Floyd?

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

The fukking CAC said Floyd fought Shane after Mora....I pointed that shyt out....your very next post was FINALLY someone tells the truth talking bout the cacs rant

JMM is the only fighter since the comeback that Floyd fought that wasn't highly ranked at the weight.....N we all know what JMM can do at that weight

Oh N Floyd was coming off a long layoff tho

THANK YOU!!!!! Ive been saying all this for years-not as a Pacman stan, not as a Floyd hater, but just a FAN of the sport. I follow everything that has been going on in the sport since the 90s. Most of what hes saying is true.

Mayweather was also substantially bigger and stronger than Marquez. It was Marquez's first fight above the Lightweight division, and only his third fight ever above the Super Featherweight division. Despite all that, Mayweather never tried to make weight, coming in at 146 pounds with his overweight check in hand. The bout was set at a catch-weight of 142 pounds, giving him an even larger edge. And everyone knows Marquez didnt move up in weight properly and was , nowhere NEAR the version of him that fought Pacman cuz he hired Heredia for that bout and took a tuneup fight prior at WW. #factsonly bro

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

It is what it is. Had Shane lost to anyone else he'd be viewed as "Too Old" or "Passed it". Hell, they were saying that after the Cotto fight and there was retirement talks then (2007). Again, I'm not someone who disses Mayweather off GP because I actually like him as a fighter, but I just call it as it is. Floyd beat a good name that was clearly past his prime. If Margarito is the gauging point, so be it, but this is the same Margarito that Floyd fans say he would've "mopped" but it's an impressive enough win for Shane to make Floyd's win over him that much better? Better yet, who fought a better version of Shane, Cotto or Floyd?

@ChocolateGiddyUp

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

It is what it is. Had Shane lost to anyone else he'd be viewed as "Too Old" or "Passed it". Hell, they were saying that after the Cotto fight and there was retirement talks then (2007). Again, I'm not someone who disses Mayweather off GP because I actually like him as a fighter, but I just call it as it is. Floyd beat a good name that was clearly past his prime. If Margarito is the gauging point, so be it, but this is the same Margarito that Floyd fans say he would've "mopped" but it's an impressive enough win for Shane to make Floyd's win over him that much better? Better yet, who fought a better version of Shane, Cotto or Floyd?

Personally I had Shane beating Cotto....I haven't seen that fight in yrs tho

See this is the problem when discussing Floyd....he beat Shane N Shane was old, had he not fought Shane its considered a duck

He beats Hatton N its he was small he really lost to Collazo , had he not fought Hatton it'd considered a duck

He fights Judah instead of Baldo its a duck, he kills Baldo N its why he fight that scrub

If he beats Canelo its cuz he's too green, had he not fought canelo he's ducking

Had he fought Margs it would been oh he lost to Pwill N Santos who did he even beat?? But since the fight never happened it's a duck

Had he fought Pwill oh he lost to quintana who did he ever beat....the fight never happened so its a duck

Nobody's happy until Floyd loses

 

[Master Teacher]

so Floyd was ducking Shamba Mitchell now lol
he sounds like the fools on here

Floyd fought Shane after Mora lol
I think that was his boy Pac, once he saw shytty Shane was shot

the hate for Mayweather got people revising history
so Hatton was a credible opponent now
Floyd Mayweather Trying To Justify himself to ESPN - YouTube

man i don't matter what Floyd do the gonna create excuses
and if he loses they'll start to love him

 

[Black_Jesus]

so we just gonna ignore this huh

comes back to face the #2 P4P in the world who was a LIFE LONG 135 Lightweight legend Juan Marquez! BEFORE he hooked up with BALCOs VICTORE CONTE(you can look up his BALCO conection and history right here on the world wide web...

thats my Xylocaine junkie