Will America ever fall in love with muslims the same way they did with the Japanese?

[villain]

this thread is predicated on a fallacy anyway. If there's real conflict it will take 2 seconds for Americans to consider the Japanese on par with the Chinese, North Koreans etc

all it took was USA losing the soccer match and you had hordes of people on FB saying shyt like "we lost the match but we still won wit Hiroshima"

 

[zerozero]

America loves Christmas, Reality TV, greed, caricatures of black people, capitalism, and ignorant comfortable bliss. .. not any culture.

 

[theworldismine13]

I said it's been decades since the end of the conflict with the japanese before stuff like video games caught on. you can't predict what will happen in us-muslim relations decades hence. and I don't think the hostility will continue at its present rate, especially since it's not been as bad as relations between the US and other groups. man, I'm like the only guy analyzing this question in here

Everybody except you understands that the premise of the question was post conflict, there is no need to restate or belabor the premise which is what you are doing

 

[zerozero]

Everybody except you understands that the premise of the question was post conflict, there is no need to restate or belabor the premise which is what you are doing

My point is that when the conflict is active you can't clearly pick out the cultural things you'd like in the future. And people in here don't understand what muslim culture entails enough to make a prediction. Hell, if you use algebra you're already involved with muslim culture

 

[Type Username Here]

The difference is occupation and technology.

Now, we live in a global world connected by the internet. Pop culture is becoming a worldwide thing. Still, the United States provides most of the pop culture, art and music to the rest of the world. This board is a great example of that.

As far as Islam/Arab/Afghan Culture, it has happened already in small parts. The spread of culture traditionally has been GIs bringing home things they like from other cultures, and passing things they like to others. There are things I do now that I did not before going to the ME. The opposite is true too. Contrary to what some may say, the US has had some positive impact in Afghanistan and Iraq, usually due to human interaction at the "street" level. What's the impact on a little Afghan girl seeing female soldiers or female agents in positions of power? Who knows?

Sometimes the best things come from war. I'm cheering for Iraq and the Iraqi people. They were by far very kind, hospitable, and understanding. I hope they become the next Japan or West Germany.

 

[Type Username Here]

As for the topic this shiit is fluid and subject to change, remember in the 80s the Americans were callin the Afghan mujahdeen freedom fighters and the equivalent to Americas fore fathers.

This is true. I think it was KSM that said his favorite historical person was George Washington, and he saw himself in that light.

History is written by the winners. If the British had won, Washington might have been hanged for treason and crimes.

 

[Blackking]

Sometimes the best things come from war. I'm cheering for Iraq and the Iraqi people. They were by far very kind, hospitable, and understanding. I hope they become the next Japan or West Germany.

We are also by far kind, hospitable, and understanding... at least as much as most other people. The Iraqi people aren't anything special.

They won't become the next Japan or West Germany, for obvious reasons. They only offer the world Oil and a good battle ground for wars. They've been letting Iran and the US influence them since 03' and they aren't making a huge impact on the world.

Globally the Islamic influence is increasing. There are European nations that have anti Muslim groups to fight that influence back. In America, people are starting to realize that it's less than 1% of Muslims they hate. ntm, post 911, me telling a chick I was Muslim had no effect. post 911 after 04.. it's was something cool to some chicks, especially rats, and defiant white chicks.

 

[theworldismine13]

My point is that when the conflict is active you can't clearly pick out the cultural things you'd like in the future. And people in here don't understand what muslim culture entails enough to make a prediction. Hell, if you use algebra you're already involved with muslim culture

but that's obvious, that's why it's a hypothetical question, its not a real question

the question is asking if the conflict were to end would americans adopt aspects of muslim culture

and your response is basically that the conflict hasnt ended, which is just a restatement of the premise and so your response is pointless

and the question wasnt even asking about anything specific, it was suggesting or asking if what happened with japanese culture is part of a broader pattern of american culture, so you wouldnt need to know anything specific about muslim culture to answer the question

so all your responses in this thread have been pointless

 

[CASHAPP]

Japan gave us DBZ and Detective Conan

 

[CASHAPP]

@kevm3 You mentioned more than once in the past that you believe Kanye will be "next". If you were to make a prediction what do you think will happen exactly? This is just a prediction.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

I was thinking the other day, how Japan came through and crush the building back in the days in Hawaii. But moving forward a few years, Americans act like that sh!t never happen and are in love with the Japanese culture They hold no resentment at all it seems
Maybe this will happen with the Muslim and a few years from now America will turn into a Muslim country
But hopefully before that happen I be on my way to Brazil
Looking back with this face
Thoughts?

Interesting post, and I have been thinking about this for years...I once told a black friend of mine, in my opinion, I believe that one reason we white people (many white people) don't really respect black people, is because black people didn't take white people to a direct brutal war...

Like the example of the Japanese, the Germans are also one group of people Americans seem to really respect...

And I think part of the reason is because after the war ended, and years had passed, and everybody was able to look at the war more objectively, they realized powerful Germany really was for pretty much taking the whole word dolo, and all the technological and scientific advancements they made during that time...

It's almost like the "schoolyard fight" effect...Like one two little boys fought in the yard, and after the fight, they gain more respect for each other and become good friends...

 

[beenz]

but America love them

if muslims were to make:

playstation
sony tv
psp
sushi
walkman
toyotas
hondas
lexus
acura

american's would love them too.

 

[Gallo]

Once Muslims start unveiling these broads we'll start to love them. If they then start shaving and waxing, it's a wrap.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

False. I understand the question perfectly. You guys are avoiding the issue. Could you have guessed in 1940 these reasons you're listing for liking Japan now? no. In fact you guys were printing anti japanese propaganda literally. You simply can't guess what US-"Muslim" relations are going to look like especially not if all you guys know about "muslim culture" is the puerile stuff people have been typing in here

You typed several posts saying Americans would still hold antipathy for Japanese if we were still in conflict with them. As already stated, it was already a given that the premise was based upon there not being a state of conflict, so your assertion was irrelevant.

Understanding that the static environment is a state of peace, many people told you that many Americans have a fondness for Japanese media, food, technology, culture, etc. Most Americans live in a bubble and don't care much about what's going on outside our borders anyway, but we like our video games, TVs, cameras, hibachi steakhouses, Godzila, Samurai flicks, Voltron, katana blades, Dragon Ball Z etc. so we kinda look at the Japanese like more than we do most nations.

It's really is that simple. This is what Americans are telling you and you live in India. I think we might have a slightly better perspective on this than you. All this other shyt you're talking is a bunch of meaningless fluff. You didn't understand the initial premise now you're just talking around the edges and saying nothing. Whether or not Americans could've predicted we'd develop an affinity for the Japanese in 1940 has nothing to do with you missing the point.

 

[zerozero]

You typed several posts saying Americans would still hold antipathy for Japanese if we were still in conflict with them. As already stated, it was already a given that the premise was based upon there not being a state of conflict, so your assertion was irrelevant.

Understanding that the static environment is a state of peace, many people told you that many Americans have a fondness for Japanese media, food, technology, culture, etc. Most Americans live in a bubble and don't care much about what's going on outside our borders anyway, but we like our video games, TVs, cameras, hibachi steakhouses, Godzila, Samurai flicks, Voltron, katana blades, Dragon Ball Z etc. so we kinda look at the Japanese like more than we do most nations.

It's really is that simple. This is what Americans are telling you and you live in India. I think we might have a slightly better perspective on this than you. All this other shyt you're talking is a bunch of meaningless fluff. You didn't understand the initial premise now you're just talking around the edges and saying nothing. Whether or not Americans could've predicted we'd develop an affinity for the Japanese in 1940 has nothing to do with you missing the point.

The question has a bad analogy because it compares a post conflict state to a conflict state in the context of conflict like WWII. Then you guys posted stuff about Video Games, Sushi etc to explain what Japanese have that Muslims don't have. I punctured both sides of this comparison and for some reason it's not processing for you. You literally can't say the japanese have video games and the muslims don't so we wont like the Muslims like we like the Japanese, because the cultural cross fertilization is predicted on an end to hostility first and future cultural interaction