Will America ever fall in love with muslims the same way they did with the Japanese?

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wrong about what? steambox is not pc...
Yeah it is bro. It's a linux based PC packaged with a controller, you can even install windows on it dual partition and use it as an every day PC.

It runs SteamOS which is a linux distro made by valve intended for gaming.


edit: you're wrong about the console market flourishing. Whats really happening is the console market is shrinking, the PC market is growing slowly, and mobile/iOS/android gaming is getting huge.
 

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Yeah it is bro. It's a linux based PC packaged with a controller, you can even install windows on it dual partition and use it as an every day PC.

It runs SteamOS which is a linux distro made by valve intended for gaming.


edit: you're wrong about the console market flourishing. Whats really happening is the console market is shrinking, the PC market is growing slowly, and mobile/iOS/android gaming is getting huge.
i'm sure some microsoft os can be installed on xbox machines too... and this xbox or future xboxes will be powerful enough to run 7, 8 and future windows os's.

as consoles get more powerful pc gaming becomes less appealing.
 

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i'm sure some microsoft os can be installed on xbox machines too... and this xbox or future xboxes will be powerful enough to run 7, 8 and future windows os's.

as consoles get more powerful pc gaming becomes less appealing.

If an Xbox runs Microsoft OS, then it's just a PC with the name Xbox slapped on it breh. The only fundamental differences between a PC and a console are that consoles have closed operating systems and identical hardware. Without either they lose the advantages of consoles (ease of set up, minimal glitches) and they just become PC's. Anyway, what I was saying is that the console industry is in deep shyt. They're not selling more than their predecessors despite costing more and having more expensive to develop games. Microsoft new CEO is thinking of selling off the Xbox division cus it's in the red, and Sony has been having profitability issues for years now.

Android, iOS, and free to play are pretty much the future. lower investment, potentially high profits.

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If an Xbox runs Microsoft OS, then it's just a PC with the name Xbox slapped on it breh. The only fundamental differences between a PC and a console are that consoles have closed operating systems and identical hardware. Without either they lose the advantages of consoles (ease of set up, minimal glitches) and they just become PC's. Anyway, what I was saying is that the console industry is in deep shyt. They're not selling more than their predecessors despite costing more and having more expensive to develop games. Microsoft new CEO is thinking of selling off the Xbox division cus it's in the red, and Sony has been having profitability issues for years now.

Android, iOS, and free to play are pretty much the future. lower investment, potentially high profits.

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well obviously phone hardware has come up and cause of mobility are now a problem for game consoles (which are a problem for pc's).


it's easy for no names create phone games/apps and get in the game too.
 

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sorry to derail the thread. but even on the phone end sony's not even a contender. they do make good phones but no one's checking for a sony phone. even wack as LG makes better phones. and even if they do make some noise they have to be an android phone at this point.
 

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well obviously phones have come up and cause of mobility are now a problem for game consoles (which are a problem for pc's).
They exist in different spaces though. I think it's a mistake to think of these markets as competitors. PC initially suffered when the n64 and psx came out a little, because they were stealing all the high production value type hits. But now PC is doing really well, cause they're bankrolling financially responsible games that turn profits; indie shyt. Some of this shyt so popular that it gets on console too. Plus console games are pretty regular on PC now cause japanese developers stopped being relevant. Not to mention that he msot popular games on the planet are still pc; world of warcraft league of legends shyt like that.

the only one at risk right now is the console market because it still lives or dies on hollywood/blockbuster model; dump a shytload of money into making a really pretty title with high production values, roll the dice, hope it becomes a hit.

on the other hand you got mobile which is more like PC. shyt is cheap to develop, buy, and in some cases free. If a game on mobile or pc fails; its no big deal. They didnt have to shell out tons of money for publishing or distro. Just like indie music on bandcamp. its just a factor of inevitability that more financially risky models wont survive long term, that or they'll become even fewer like movies have.

movie publishing/distro is just waiting for an equivalent to Steam or the Apple/Google store; cheap shyt that may or may not be good digitally distributed. could change the game.
 

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In Toronto it's Sri Lankans

Or at least it was, "back in my days"
lots of muslim dudes on this shyt too just they aren't the "liked" muslims so nobody claims them. It's incredible to read the papers these days and see all the petty crime being done by people with "middle eastern" names. It used to be whites and blacks now every crime is commited by abdulbakr muthrfakr or whatever.:pachaha:
 

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They exist in different spaces though. I think it's a mistake to think of these markets as competitors. PC initially suffered when the n64 and psx came out a little, because they were stealing all the high production value type hits. But now PC is doing really well, cause they're bankrolling financially responsible games that turn profits; indie shyt. Some of this shyt so popular that it gets on console too. Plus console games are pretty regular on PC now cause japanese developers stopped being relevant. Not to mention that he msot popular games on the planet are still pc; world of warcraft league of legends shyt like that.

the only one at risk right now is the console market because it still lives or dies on hollywood/blockbuster model; dump a shytload of money into making a really pretty title with high production values, roll the dice, hope it becomes a hit.

on the other hand you got mobile which is more like PC. shyt is cheap to develop, buy, and in some cases free. If a game on mobile or pc fails; its no big deal. They didnt have to shell out tons of money for publishing or distro. Just like indie music on bandcamp. its just a factor of inevitability that more financially risky models wont survive long term, that or they'll become even fewer like movies have.

movie publishing/distro is just waiting for an equivalent to Steam or the Apple/Google store; cheap shyt that may or may not be good digitally distributed. could change the game.
as pc, consoles and phones get more powerful (w/ internet access) they don't exist in different spaces. pc and game consoles today are essentially the game thing.. consoles being cheaper. tvs got smaller and cheaper and every teens could now get a game console in their room with internet access. pretty much everyone pc gaming today has a game console.
everyone has a phone too and a good phone capable of playing [flash] games.

flash is a cross platform.
 

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Interesting post, and I have been thinking about this for years...I once told a black friend of mine, in my opinion, I believe that one reason we white people (many white people) don't really respect black people, is because black people didn't take white people to a direct brutal war...

Like the example of the Japanese, the Germans are also one group of people Americans seem to really respect...

And I think part of the reason is because after the war ended, and years had passed, and everybody was able to look at the war more objectively, they realized powerful Germany really was for pretty much taking the whole word dolo, and all the technological and scientific advancements they made during that time...

It's almost like the "schoolyard fight" effect...Like one two little boys fought in the yard, and after the fight, they gain more respect for each other and become good friends...

Interesting that this got overlooked :ehh::patrice::mjpls:
 
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Islamic Intellectual History

I have been immersed in the study of Islamic intellectual history for over 2 years now. It has been rewarding and transformative, but also alienating. It's clear to me that Islamic brilliance peaked in the 3rd century AH, then slipped (with occasional bright flashes and sharp catastrophes). I won't comment on the reasons of decline because that was never the purpose of my study. I find most debates on this boring now. My main concern was (and still is) the ideas that led to brilliance, whose loss lead to decline.




Philosophical libertarianism and Islam

Philosophical libertarianism and Islam
In my search in early Islamic intellectual history I noticed that early interpretations about free will were philosophically libertarian. In a free will context, "Libertarian" means the position that human beings have true free will, and a rejection of determinism. Pre-Islamic Quraysh, on the other hand, were hard determinists. They even commonly blamed their own immorality and excesses on fate. The Umayyads (direct as well as cultural descendants of Quraysh) would later seek to promote hard determinism under various guises. Umayyads (especially in their middle period) referred to fatalism in order to justify their own tyranny and to discourage rebellion.
 
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