Will US politics ever return to normal: pre trump/maga era or is this the new normal

Will US politics ever return to normal: pre trump/maga era or is this the new normal

  • Yes: It will return to pre maga era

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • No: this is the new normal

    Votes: 19 32.8%
  • It will only get worse from here and continue with that tragectory

    Votes: 36 62.1%

  • Total voters
    58

Sad Bunny

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Its the new normal, especially when CAC population decreases rapidly in the coming years.

MAGA is the last play that white supremacy has on America before it transforms into nothing else the world has ever seen, where CACs are no longer the shot callers.
Latinos consider themselves cakes, so I’m sure they will do what they gotta do for that white acceptance
 

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What was normal about pre-Trump?

Overwhelming majority of both parties firmly against coup against the US gov't

Not calling for abolishment of all federal agencies by one of the two main parties

The freedom of the press was upheld, now more than half the country now believe everything that comes out of the mainstream media is a lie including verifiable facts

Politicians caught in scandals and those who openly court and supporting white supremacists and their views no longer suffer political consequences, before they would have to

use dog whistle, now they are pretty overt

and the list goes on and on
 

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It won't. Folks in the extreme are getting more of the press attention then normal politicians. These people found out that all they have to do is be the loudest people in the room and the cameras will come. At this point they get to spit out whatever agenda they want and it will be talked about. We no longer ignore crazy people, we put them in the forefront and that radicalizes the people that listens to them.

We can't seem to agree on anything and what's left is a gridlock election after election. We can't find a middle ground with guns, medical system, student debt, abortion, the budget and everything else. And whatever does pass gets watered down and folks use it as an opportunity to put a lot of BS in bills that has nothing to do with nothing. The system been broken.

There is no presidential savior coming because he can't do it on his/her own. There needs to be a completly new class of folks that actually cares about the country and not worried about getting elected. I'm hoping GenZ can save us down the road.
 

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Overwhelming majority of both parties firmly against coup against the US gov't

Not calling for abolishment of all federal agencies by one of the two main parties

The freedom of the press was upheld, now more than half the country now believe everything that comes out of the mainstream media is a lie including verifiable facts

Politicians caught in scandals and those who openly court and supporting white supremacists and their views no longer suffer political consequences, before they would have to

use dog whistle, now they are pretty overt

and the list goes on and on
So you’re like 25?
 

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it will get worse.

This book was written in the 1980s. Before the internet existed. The author predicted the situation America is in now...just off of how people reacted to politics and TV merging. Social media/the internet is on TV on cocaine. tldr - politicians who look better on TV get more views and subsequently more votes (see ronald reagan)

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this book explains why we're here and why it will get worse. tldr - politicians who are more radical get more clicks and therefore more votes (see Trump) + politics is now a sport.

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politics in america is not about ideology anymore. its tribal and voters see themselves as either red or blue. there's no longer any nuance
 

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How you gonna ROFL with a hollow back?
Wouldn't you say covid is one or should have been?
Sandy Hook should have been one, when white babies from an affluent area of the country get their brains blown out, and it doesn't even move the needle, that's when you know it's a wrap! If that happens in any other 1st world country, shyt changes, here, it changed, just went the complete other way than it should have.
 

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How you gonna ROFL with a hollow back?
Republicans have been on this track since Gingrich in the mid 90s. It goes back from him but they took a huge step towards it with Gingrich. Trump was another big step.

With the latest revelations about Fox News the party is more divided than ever so they can expect more Ls in the coming months.

A better question is can the GOP survive? They've never been in waters this deep and murky. They can thank Trump and his stranglehold for that but it's been a while coming.
This is super facts. Newt and Rush are to thank for where we are today, even though we were always going to get here eventually, those two microwaved it.
 

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Sandy Hook should have been one, when white babies from an affluent area of the country get their brains blown out, and it doesn't even move the needle, that's when you know it's a wrap! If that happens in any other 1st world country, shyt changes, here, it changed, just went the complete other way than it should have.

People are shameless. If there was a time to change it was this. But we were met with thoughts and prayers and told it's to early to talk about gun laws. I need to know when is the best time because if babies getting gunned down isn't the best time then I don't know when is. I'm also all for dealing with metal health at the same time but guns gotta be on the table.
 

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How you gonna ROFL with a hollow back?
People are shameless. If there was a time to change it was this. But we were met with thoughts and prayers and told it's to early to talk about gun laws. I need to know when is the best time because if babies getting gunned down isn't the best time then I don't know when is. I'm also all for dealing with metal health at the same time but guns gotta be on the table.
It's over. There will never be a time. Even people that were reasonable about it back then, because of the severity of what actually happened, have put blinders on today. There are too many guns in circulation at this point, the babies were thrown out with the bathwater, there is no way to reel it back in now. This country is on the hard decline, and I'm not being hyperbolic, the "radical left" (progressives) are now being looked at the same way that the "radical right" is, lolololol, even though one just wants peace and prosperity for the working poor, and equality, and goes about trying to get it through protesting, campaigning, and mobilizing, while the other goes about it through intimidation, violence, and hate......but they are exactly the same thing, two sides to the same coin, lol, even folks on here will say that shyt, and actually believe it. Yeah, we are finished, all you can do at this point, is try to make sure you and yours are good.
 

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The extremism on the right will stop when the leaders of the party stop being scared of their voters. What should happen is that Trump loses to Biden again in 2024 which causes Republican leaders to have a meltdown that results in throwing MAGA in the bushes.

But because they are scared, they will probably let these dudes become more extreme if that's even possible at this point.
 

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if republicans lose 2024 i think they'll be forced to rethink things and that's where shyt will get better.

I think if we win 2024 republicans are dead for like 10-20 years while they morph into something respectable (or die off)

I agree, I think 2024 is a turning point. If Republicans lose in 2024 then they're going to have to cut the MAGA sect loose. They can't appeal to a wide enough audience with the extreme MAGA faction running the show, and back to back losses against weak Democratic nominees would confirm that. Although I thought 2020 would be the end of MAGA with Trump losing but it seems to have only gotten worse.

If Desantis/Trump win in 2024 though... :francis: You better hope you're in a blue state to somewhat insulate you from the wild federal legislation that'll be coming out with Desantis in office, conservative SCOTUS, and GOP potentially controlling both bodies of Congress. The stuff we're seeing come out of Florida, Tennessee, Texas, etc will be happening on the federal level.
 

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On the right it will stay as bad as it is if not get worse
On the left we mainly nominate and elect moderates but our internal Culture Warz will continue to get worse I think. Kind of the worst of both worlds in that aspect. We'll keep pushing lukewarm Biden type candidates while at the same time culturally pushing for "extreme" stuff like trannys reading books to kids, etc
 

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The insane colorless apes that have attacked every continent on the globe..?

You know, those mfs..?

They are staring to lose their grip on total supremacy over other races and cultures.

So they are freaking the fukc out.

I believe they have already lost based on the numbers, but they will not go quietly and they will not play by any rules.

It's been total war with humanity since they lumbered out of their caves and that is who they will always be.

And until they are brought to heel, they will kick and scream every inch of the way.

Not 100% of snow roaches are evil, but a strong 2/3 are.

But let's keep the pressure up. Of all of US vote against them, we have a real chance of stopping their evil plans.
 

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nah I think someone on here said it, or I read it on reddit but ever since Obama was president (earlier if you count Ronald Reagan) everything and anything will be a bipartisan issue, you will see dem or republican presidents just outdo each other (like trump getting rid of obama policies just because it was under his administration) blue states will be better for overall humanity, while red states will appeal to their voter base (right wing, conservative, WHITE crowd)

It is what it is, white fragility is a cancer and a mental illness. :yeshrug:
 

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if republicans lose 2024 i think they'll be forced to rethink things and that's where shyt will get better.

I think if we win 2024 republicans are dead for like 10-20 years while they morph into something respectable (or die off)
they will just do what they did in florida, shift towards latinos.
 
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