Willow and Jaden are crazy breh :mjlol:

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When you check your time it maybe 0630, but you don't know if your neighbour's time is also 0630 unless you are in contact with your neighbour...

To be on the same time with any body, you need to be in contact with that person, because we all perceive time differently...

Time is relative...

You need to read about Schroedinger's Cat and the Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle...

This is NOT Bro science or Scientology...This is PROPER Albert Einstein science...:mjlol:
it's proper theories... meaning it hasn't been proven.. which means i dont believe that shyt

yes i know what time it is at my neighbors... cause we in the same fukking time zone.. what if i hear his alarm clock?? what if a crime happens, is he gonna report it at 730 cause it's 730 to him?? but the cops show up and be like nah nikka it's only 545


shyt sounds dumb and can never be proven because you are using time to measure it... so in this "my childhood can be over in 6 seconds" there's records of doctor visits, and time in school, and your parents watching you grow, that FACTS say "it was not 6 seconds"

maybe in your brain it was 6 seconds... but time is not a measurement of how things feel to you in your brain

time is a measurement of how fast the earth goes around the sun and how fast it does a 360... so unless you leaving earth, this is still some bullshyt
 

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time is a measurement of how fast the earth goes around the sun and how fast it does a 360... so unless you leaving earth, this is still some bullshyt

Time is also a MAN MADE construct. Age is man made. Lines of boundaries of states, countries, counties, etc are man made.

Of course the earth has to spin b/c that's what it does, but who said that has to mean anything as it pertains to time?

Time was created to help man be more organized, but that doesn't mean it's absolute anymore than an imaginery state line.

And also to clarify what he's saying, it's like some moments can seem to last forever and some can seem to blow by and tehy can both be the same amount of time, yet they feel different.

I don't buy everything people say, but some stuff is valid when you think deeper.
 

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i don't care where in the fukking universe you are.... nikka when you check your watch is it 6:30?? when you count 60 minutes is it 7:30???


how would anyone know what's going on in the universe when we haven't even been past the moon yet

nikkas talking bout what goes on in the universe and haven't left america yet :camby:
I was going to say it but he beat me to it. Jaden is right, willow is right as well. They're just saying things that your average person can't really fathom.
 

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Time is also a MAN MADE construct. Age is man made. Lines of boundaries of states, countries, counties, etc are man made.

Of course the earth has to spin b/c that's what it does, but who said that has to mean anything as it pertains to time?

Time was created to help man be more organized, but that doesn't mean it's absolute anymore than an imaginery state line.

And also to clarify what he's saying, it's like some moments can seem to last forever and some can seem to blow by and tehy can both be the same amount of time, yet they feel different.

I don't buy everything people say, but some stuff is valid when you think deeper.
yes i fully believe that.... or as LL Cool J would say "put your hand on a hot stove, a second can feel like an hour... put your hand on a hot woman and an hour can feel like a second"

i said that, in your mind, it can feel that way

but math wasn't invented by man... you count 1-2-3-4-5 in any part of the world.. so whether made up or not, the earth spins and travels around the sun... when it gets back to its original point... that's ONE

if we never invented a unit to count those, it still would be happening

that's why i say it's nonsense... your feelings in your brain do not equal out to your childhood being 6 seconds long.. because seconds are a measurement.. and measurements do not change person by person... only your perception of that measurement changes...

where i feel 500 miles isn't a long drive but you do... and i feel like the drive went by fast but you dont.... but it was still 500 miles and took us 8 hours regardless of what the fukk we feeling





but i see where y'all are coming from.. i just don't think HE said that shyt correctly at all... so it comes off as sounding retarded..

and i hate when people start talking about the universe when we have absolutely no idea what's going on out there

for all we know there could be planets that don't spin at all and rocks talk and have babies... anything is possible out there
 

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yes i fully believe that.... or as LL Cool J would say "put your hand on a hot stove, a second can feel like an hour... put your hand on a hot woman and an hour can feel like a second"

i said that, in your mind, it can feel that way

but math wasn't invented by man... you count 1-2-3-4-5 in any part of the world.. so whether made up or not, the earth spins and travels around the sun... when it gets back to its original point... that's ONE

if we never invented a unit to count those, it still would be happening

that's why i say it's nonsense... your feelings in your brain do not equal out to your childhood being 6 seconds long.. because seconds are a measurement.. and measurements do not change person by person... only your perception of that measurement changes...

where i feel 500 miles isn't a long drive but you do... and i feel like the drive went by fast but you dont.... but it was still 500 miles and took us 8 hours regardless of what the fukk we feeling

but i see where y'all are coming from.. i just don't think HE said that shyt correctly at all... so it comes off as sounding retarded..

and i hate when people start talking about the universe when we have absolutely no idea what's going on out there

for all we know there could be planets that don't spin at all and rocks talk and have babies... anything is possible out there


But MATH, as an entity was invented by man. You can't count 1-5 if you weren't taught to do so. At best you would just see multiple of whatever it is you see, but ur brain wouldnt naturally count 12345.. The number system allows you to organize & label. Same thing goes for miles. 500 miles is 500 miles in the USA, but not necessarily in Europe.

And yeah the earth does get back around to it's original point, it has to at some point, right? But who says that measurement is a year? What is a "year"?

People used to live by the sky, the seasons, the stars......that was their idea of time before it was what we have today. Now we have a much more complex system. But in it's essence it's still not really real.
 

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But MATH, as an entity was invented by man. You can't count 1-5 if you weren't taught to do so. At best you would just see multiple of whatever it is you see, but ur brain wouldnt naturally count 12345.. The number system allows you to organize & label. Same thing goes for miles. 500 miles is 500 miles in the USA, but not necessarily in Europe.

And yeah the earth does get back around to it's original point, it has to at some point, right? But who says that measurement is a year? What is a "year"?

People used to live by the sky, the seasons, the stars......that was their idea of time before it was what we have today. Now we have a much more complex system. But in it's essence it's still not really real.
you're just labeling the measurement... if we never spoke.. say we are cavemen... 3 rocks is still 3 rocks.. if you call it 3 or sadlf or tap bump bump bump to symbolize 3.... it's still the same amount of rocks



you dead right about miles.. cause we don't have a universal measurement for length... but without a measurement.... or a name... 500 miles is still the same distance no matter what you call it


the earth goes around... it has no name... but it still went around and that's a thing.. whatever you want to call it..

that's why i say math is universal.. aliens come here and we can't communicate, if i pull out 3 rocks, they still know there's 3 of them... not 4, not 1, not nothing... SOMETHING is there and there are 3 somethings




man created the words... he did not create the beings and movements of the universe




i love this convo tho... we need to have more shyt like this on the coli instead of check out this pawg i met in the mall yesterday
 

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it's proper theories... meaning it hasn't been proven.. which means i dont believe that shyt

yes i know what time it is at my neighbors... cause we in the same fukking time zone.. what if i hear his alarm clock?? what if a crime happens, is he gonna report it at 730 cause it's 730 to him?? but the cops show up and be like nah nikka it's only 545


shyt sounds dumb and can never be proven because you are using time to measure it... so in this "my childhood can be over in 6 seconds" there's records of doctor visits, and time in school, and your parents watching you grow, that FACTS say "it was not 6 seconds"

maybe in your brain it was 6 seconds... but time is not a measurement of how things feel to you in your brain

time is a measurement of how fast the earth goes around the sun and how fast it does a 360... so unless you leaving earth, this is still some bullshyt

naw, time has been proven to be relative... so what jaden said was valid actually :yeshrug:

2. What relativistic effects on GPS atomic clocks might be seen?
General Relativity (GR) predicts that clocks in a stronger gravitational field will tick at a slower rate. Special Relativity (SR) predicts that moving clocks will appear to tick slower than non-moving ones. Remarkably, these two effects cancel each other for clocks located at sea level anywhere on Earth. So if a hypothetical clock at Earth’s north or south pole is used as a reference, a clock at Earth’s equator would tick slower because of its relative speed due to Earth’s spin, but faster because of its greater distance from Earth’s center of mass due to the flattening of the Earth. Because Earth’s spin rate determines its shape, these two effects are not independent, and it is therefore not entirely coincidental that the effects exactly cancel. The cancellation is not general, however. Clocks at any altitude above sea level do tick faster than clocks at sea level; and clocks on rocket sleds do tick slower than stationary clocks.
For GPS satellites, GR predicts that the atomic clocks at GPS orbital altitudes will tick faster by about 45,900 ns/day because they are in a weaker gravitational field than atomic clocks on Earth's surface. Special Relativity (SR) predicts that atomic clocks moving at GPS orbital speeds will tick slower by about 7,200 ns/day than stationary ground clocks. Rather than have clocks with such large rate differences, the satellite clocks are reset in rate before launch to compensate for these predicted effects. In practice, simply changing the international definition of the number of atomic transitions that constitute a one-second interval accomplishes this goal. Therefore, we observe the clocks running at their offset rates before launch. Then we observe the clocks running after launch and compare their rates with the predictions of relativity, both GR and SR combined. If the predictions are right, we should see the clocks run again at nearly the same rates as ground clocks, despite using an offset definition for the length of one second.

http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/gps-relativity.asp
 

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But MATH, as an entity was invented by man. You can't count 1-5 if you weren't taught to do so. At best you would just see multiple of whatever it is you see, but ur brain wouldnt naturally count 12345.. The number system allows you to organize & label. Same thing goes for miles. 500 miles is 500 miles in the USA, but not necessarily in Europe.

And yeah the earth does get back around to it's original point, it has to at some point, right? But who says that measurement is a year? What is a "year"?

People used to live by the sky, the seasons, the stars......that was their idea of time before it was what we have today. Now we have a much more complex system. But in it's essence it's still not really real.
But when people lived by the sky, the seasons, the stars and the moon, they did so according to observation of naturally occurring cycles. Time also is a measurement of a naturally occurring cycle. So yes it is a concept, but it comes from observation, not construction. So time is not like boarders or countries or currency. Those things are social constructs created by man. Time is a measurement of a naturally occurring cycle. people did not create time, they simply conceptualised a way to measure it.
 

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i was gonna post this yesterday, actually did, but then remembered they are just kids. was gonna say jaden >>>>>>>kanye with the entertainingly perverse interviews. kanye not nowhere near this levels.
 

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these kids really think they're saying something new :mjlol:
 

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naw, time has been proven to be relative... so what jaden said was valid actually :yeshrug:

2. What relativistic effects on GPS atomic clocks might be seen?
General Relativity (GR) predicts that clocks in a stronger gravitational field will tick at a slower rate. Special Relativity (SR) predicts that moving clocks will appear to tick slower than non-moving ones. Remarkably, these two effects cancel each other for clocks located at sea level anywhere on Earth. So if a hypothetical clock at Earth’s north or south pole is used as a reference, a clock at Earth’s equator would tick slower because of its relative speed due to Earth’s spin, but faster because of its greater distance from Earth’s center of mass due to the flattening of the Earth. Because Earth’s spin rate determines its shape, these two effects are not independent, and it is therefore not entirely coincidental that the effects exactly cancel. The cancellation is not general, however. Clocks at any altitude above sea level do tick faster than clocks at sea level; and clocks on rocket sleds do tick slower than stationary clocks.
For GPS satellites, GR predicts that the atomic clocks at GPS orbital altitudes will tick faster by about 45,900 ns/day because they are in a weaker gravitational field than atomic clocks on Earth's surface. Special Relativity (SR) predicts that atomic clocks moving at GPS orbital speeds will tick slower by about 7,200 ns/day than stationary ground clocks. Rather than have clocks with such large rate differences, the satellite clocks are reset in rate before launch to compensate for these predicted effects. In practice, simply changing the international definition of the number of atomic transitions that constitute a one-second interval accomplishes this goal. Therefore, we observe the clocks running at their offset rates before launch. Then we observe the clocks running after launch and compare their rates with the predictions of relativity, both GR and SR combined. If the predictions are right, we should see the clocks run again at nearly the same rates as ground clocks, despite using an offset definition for the length of one second.

http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/gps-relativity.asp

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Ignorant fools. Jaden is right.




there is no PROOF... notice the words they always use... MIGHT BE... PREDICT... THEORY OF RELATIVELY

these are not FACTS.... i mean shyt... it's the BIG BANG THEORY... even parts of evolution are still THEORY

The scientific definition of the word "theory" is different from the colloquial sense of the word. In the vernacular, "theory" can refer to guesswork, a simple conjecture, an opinion, or a speculation that does not have to be based on facts and need not be framed for making testable predictions.

However, in science, the meaning of theory is more rigorous. A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."[24] Theories are formed from hypotheses that have been subjected repeatedly to tests of evidence which attempt to disprove or falsify them. In the case of evolution through natural selection, Darwin conceived the hypothesis around 1839, and made a first draft of the concept three years later in 1842. He discussed this widely with many of his intellectual companions, and conducted further research in the background to his other writings and work. After years of development, he finally published his evidence and theory in On the Origin of Species in 1859.[25]





in other words... it's just a well-substantiated thought.... but cannot be proven to be 100% fact like "water is wet" "1 plus 1 equals 2"


scientists BELIEVE these things might be true... but cannot prove it and make it happen 100% of the times they attempt it.. so they come with predictions and theories... but still legally, have to be very careful of their words, cause it's still not fact
 
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