With another Brady loss & another Newton clutch performance...Newton is MVP

[onelastdeath]

Brady has significantly better numbers in every category is doin more wit less given all the injuries on offense and has a weaker defense, he's literally more valuable than Cam nikkas are delusional thinkin he ain't gonna win but cats on here are Pats haters and faux militants so of course they gonna deny Brady bein the MVP front runner and say "black excellence" deserves it.

Most of His significantly better numbers have come when he was throwing to a significantly better recieving core.

 

[gho3st]

Brady almost lost to the GMEN. We have a pass defense that's just as bad as the Saints. One Odell catch away from sending the Patriots home with a loss.

A win is a win though. Cam has done more with less

you know what's the average passer rating of all the QBs the saints faced this year? 116.6.

 

[onelastdeath]

you know what's the average passer rating of all the QBs the saints faced this year? 116.6.

Giants have no pass rush. We have 15 sacks all year

 

[Stack Money]

stfu bytch, Brady ain't winning shyt

:bradymad:

Most of His significantly better numbers have come when he was throwing to a significantly better recieving core.

He still has all but 2 of those same receivers and outside of Gronk none are better than Cam's receivers, and he been doin it wit an injury plagued O-Line that has dudes off the street fillin in which is much more impressive than what Cam's doin.

 

[onelastdeath]

:bradymad:


He still has all but 2 of those same receivers and outside of Gronk none are better than Cam's receivers, and he been doin it wit an injury plagued O-Line that has dudes off the street fillin in which is much more impressive than what Cam's doin.

He's been in the same system for a decade +. Cam is having a bigger impact than Brady.

Cassel won 10 games in NE breh, cmon fam.

With 21-11 TD-INT ratio and 3,000+ yards.

 

[Axum Ezana]

Panthers have had the easiest schedule in the league.I think they're playing behind the 8 ball a lil bit.

Played the Packers while they were struggling....Seahawks at their worst..etc..etc

Cam can be a lil sloppy/careless, to.

They haven't ran into another team on the "up & up" in a long time.Mostly teams in decline.


If they draw the Packers or the Seahawks in the playoffs, I think they'll lose to either one.


I think the Cardinals could get em, to.

1.palmer has about the same amount of int cam has. 9 to 10.... so he just as turnover prone if u just wanna look at stats.




2.and that "up n up" shyt is just an opinion. I could easily say every team tries their hardest to upset the only undefeated team in the nfl.

the broncos was on a down slop and still beat the undefeated pats.

Houston was on a down slope and beat the undefeated bengals.

I don't think u can use that as a legit argument imo. every game is tough as hell and if u sleep... nikkas will upset u. happens every year.

plus both panthers and cards have only beaten two teams over .500. so idk why you guys think your record is so much tougher/better to be honest.


3. panthers already beat packers and seahwaks. plus the only team since 2006 to comeback on them with under 2 mins left inside their own home. u act like it was easy to win at hawks stadium...even when the legion of boom wasn't there..... it was hard to win on a 2 min drill.

also first team to give Rodgers back to back losses since 2010. newton outplayed him this year.

 

[Supa]

Brady has significantly better numbers in every category is doin more wit less given all the injuries on offense and has a weaker defense, he's literally more valuable than Cam nikkas are delusional thinkin he ain't gonna win but cats on here are Pats haters and faux militants so of course they gonna deny Brady bein the MVP front runner and say "black excellence" deserves it.

Gronk
Edelman
Amendola
White
Lewis
Blount

vs

Olsen
Ginn
Cotchery
Funchess
Stewart
Tolbert

Which one of Cam's weapons are you taking over Brady's?

Brady at least had his weapons for the vast majority of the season. Benjamin didn't play at all.

Last two games:
Cam: 2-0, 10 TD's 1 int
Brady: 0-2, 6 TD's 2 int

CaMVP

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Panthers have had the easiest schedule in the league.I think they're playing behind the 8 ball a lil bit.

Played the Packers while they were struggling....Seahawks at their worst..etc..etc

Cam can be a lil sloppy/careless, to.

They haven't ran into another team on the "up & up" in a long time.Mostly teams in decline.


If they draw the Packers or the Seahawks in the playoffs, I think they'll lose to either one.


I think the Cardinals could get em, to.

See I hate the "they have the easiest schedule" argument because no one knew the panthers and cam would be doing so well.

Also we can't make excuses for the packers and Seahawks playing poorly because shyt happens like injuries and slumps those teams were projected to be better than the panthers

 

[BlackAchilles]

Brady at least had Gronk until recently, Cam has Greg Olsen... He's been putting the team on his back all year

 

[Listen]

Brady has had to deal with more adversity this year than anyone else in the league on the offensive side of the ball....and is the only reason these last two losses were even close affairs. However, If things keep going the way they are, than Cam will be in a close race with Palmer to me. Brady would have to start making 100 yard receivers out of Practice squad guys I've never heard of and win out with big numbers to take it home.

As a Pat's fan, I could give a f@ck about MVP's, I care about rings, so I just want some of these guys back in time for the playoffs.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

1.palmer has about the same amount of int cam has. 9 to 10.... so he just as turnover prone if u just wanna look at stats.




2.and that "up n up" shyt is just an opinion. I could easily say every team tries their hardest to upset the only undefeated team in the nfl.

the broncos was on a down slop and still beat the undefeated pats.

Houston was on a down slope and beat the undefeated bengals.

I don't think u can use that as a legit argument imo. every game is tough as hell and if u sleep... nikkas will upset u. happens every year.

plus both panthers and cards have only beaten two teams over .500. so idk why you guys think your record is so much tougher/better to be honest.


3. panthers already beat packers and seahwaks. plus the only team since 2006 to comeback on them with under 2 mins left inside their own home. u act like it was easy to win at hawks stadium...even when the legion of boom wasn't there..... it was hard to win on a 2 min drill.

also first team to give Rodgers back to back losses since 2010. newton outplayed him this year.

Never said Palmer wasn't sloppy.He has his brain dead moments 4 sure.

Texans are on the "upswing" IMO

The Broncos have one of the most talented teams in football.Not shocked by them beating the Pats.Pats have been in decline the last 3 weeks.

I wanna see the Panthers play against a team clicking just as much as they are.More than likely won't see it till the playoffs.


Hopefully we cross paths and really settle this shyt

 

[Bboystyle]

1.palmer has about the same amount of int cam has. 9 to 10.... so he just as turnover prone if u just wanna look at stats.




2.and that "up n up" shyt is just an opinion. I could easily say every team tries their hardest to upset the only undefeated team in the nfl.

the broncos was on a down slop and still beat the undefeated pats.

Houston was on a down slope and beat the undefeated bengals.

I don't think u can use that as a legit argument imo. every game is tough as hell and if u sleep... nikkas will upset u. happens every year.

plus both panthers and cards have only beaten two teams over .500. so idk why you guys think your record is so much tougher/better to be honest.


3. panthers already beat packers and seahwaks. plus the only team since 2006 to comeback on them with under 2 mins left inside their own home. u act like it was easy to win at hawks stadium...even when the legion of boom wasn't there..... it was hard to win on a 2 min drill.

also first team to give Rodgers back to back losses since 2010. newton outplayed him this year.

considering how horrible the Packers offense is overall from the line to the WR's, this isnt saying much. Not knocking super man but he wont see Rodgers in his prime. Im still praying our shyt offense can find a way to get good before the playoffs

 

[Axum Ezana]

Never said Palmer wasn't sloppy.He has his brain dead moments 4 sure.

Texans are on the "upswing" IMO

The Broncos have one of the most talented teams in football.Not shocked by them beating the Pats.Pats have been in decline the last 3 weeks.

I wanna see the Panthers play against a team clicking just as much as they are.More than likely won't see it till the playoffs.


Hopefully we cross paths and really settle this shyt

nah but during that time Houston beat bengals they were not on the upswing. plus bengals were not on the decline and Houston does not even have a legit starter at qb.

u can say pats declined all u want but they were undefeated.


so since the broncos have so much talent u can explain why indy couldn't beat panthers despite cam int/ginn drops/sloppy rainy night.

but the next game they defeat the undefeated broncos. I guess the broncos were magically on the down slope then.

 

[Stack Money]

He's been in the same system for a decade +. Cam is having a bigger impact than Brady.

Cassel won 10 games in NE breh, cmon fam.

With 21-11 TD-INT ratio and 3,000+ yards.

That system bullshyt is one of the biggest myths about Brady's career there's been several different systems the last decade +, dink and dunk wit them trash receivers before 07, long ball wit Moss stretchin the D, dual TE wit Gronk/Hernandez, slot receivers now. And that team wit Cassel was a completely different roster than it is now, cmon fam.

Gronk
Edelman
Amendola
White
Lewis
Blount

vs

Olsen
Ginn
Cotchery
Funchess
Stewart
Tolbert

Which one of Cam's weapons are you taking over Brady's?

Brady at least had his weapons for the vast majority of the season. Benjamin didn't play at all.

Last two games:
Cam: 2-0, 10 TD's 1 int
Brady: 0-2, 6 TD's 2 int

CaMVP

Like I said Gronk the only one better than Cam's weapons and Brady's currently without him, and Brady has had a JV squad at O-Line all season cause of injuries. Its extremely hard to ball out at QB when the linemen who are supposed to be protectin you ain't there wit random cats as replacements not knowin the plays (we saw how that worked out wit the Colts fake punt), Cam on the other hand has had a consistent line blockin for him so yeah Brady doin WAY more wit WAY less. The MVP is based on the entire season not the last 2 weeks which as we've already pointed out Brady had no weapons to work wit in addition to that O-Line, and he played against an elite Denver team one of those weeks Cam was playin against the Saints and the Cowboys these last 2 weeks and the Redskins before that. Tougher competition + less stable offense + better stats = Brady MVP.:patscamumad:

 

[Juggalo Fred]

:bradymad:


He still has all but 2 of those same receivers and outside of Gronk none are better than Cam's receivers, and he been doin it wit an injury plagued O-Line that has dudes off the street fillin in which is much more impressive than what Cam's doin.

Congrats on Alabama finishing 2nd