Woj: Asik Traded to the Pelicans

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Marvel said:
Yet, we have had people on this board call Morey a terrible GM :smh:

Dude built a potential dynasty before this but injuries killed it. Look how quickly the team reloaded. Even if they don't get Melo. The Rockets can still re-sign Parsons and add Lowry who they always wanted to come back. Lowry loves Houston as well. So even without Melo. The lineup could be:

Howard
T. Jones
Parsons
Harden
Lowry

This is still an upgrade from last year, plus they will have better chemistry going into this season with PG that can hold his own against some of the best in the league on both sides of the floor. The Rockets are lacking a true floor general and can get that with Lowry if they don't get Bron.
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David stern made this possible for morey though

Don't ever forget that he wanted to trade all his assets for pau gasol and stern blocked it
 
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NOSaintsFan02 said:
Bottom line is this isn't our final move. I wanna see what other shoe drops before I fully judge the trade, but again I digress, you seem to know exactly how every thing will play out.
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Looks like the final move is going to be: Anderson for Gerald Green (plus a first rounder).
 
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AlbertPullhoez said:
New Orleans added a piece to their team they've been looking for since they drafted AD and Asik been on they radar for a good minute and nikkas and Coli GM's over here shytting on the move.
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The deal

Pelicans get: Center Omer Asik and reported $1.5 million.

Rockets get: Protected 2015 first-round pick.

Houston Rockets : A-

The December 20 "deadline" for the Rockets to move Omer Asik is now six months past, and with the benefit of hindsight, Houston GM Daryl Morey did the right thing by waiting. It's now clear that having the cap space this summer to aggressively pursue free agents like Carmelo Anthony and even LeBron James is better for the Rockets than any of the players they could have acquired for Asik last season.
Moving Asik's $8.3 million cap hit (he'll actually be paid $15 million the way the contract he signed as a restricted free agent was structured) brings Houston one step closer to creating enough cap space to make a competitive offer for Anthony and James. The Rockets surely also know they can move Jeremy Lin in a deal they won't make until they need the cap space, according to Sam Amick of USA Today.

There was stronger impetus for moving Asik regardless of how free agency plays out. He chafed at a backup role behind Dwight Howard last season, and though Houston got some mileage out of pairing the two centers in the playoffs, Asik is more valuable on a team for which he can start. Additionally, while the Rockets might have to surrender a pick to move Lin, they were able to get a tasty one from the Pelicans in return for Asik.

Per ESPN's Brian Windhorst, the pick is protected in both directions, something Morey pioneered two years ago when Kyle Lowry went to the Toronto Raptors. New Orleans will keep it if it lands in the top three and also if it falls after No. 19.

Because the Pelicans will contend for a playoff spot, this isn't quite as valuable as the pick Houston got for Lowry -- one of the key pieces in the James Harden trade -- but it's likely to be better than any Rockets selection for some time to come. There's an outside chance dangling a possible lottery pick could get Houston back in the mix for the other superstar on the trade market, Kevin Love.

At worst, the Rockets dealt a center who was a luxury asset for them in exchange for a first-round pick while creating a trade exception in the process. (The exception disappears if Houston goes under the cap to sign a free agent.) At best, Houston took an important step toward adding a third star.

New Orleans Pelicans: D+



Assuming it ends up inside the 4-19 range, the Pelicans' 2015 first-round pick will be the third in a row they've traded, joining 2013 and 2014, which both went to the Philadelphia 76ers on draft night a year ago. This is a bad way to build a basketball team. First-round picks are valuable assets because they offer up to four years of cost-controlled production at rates that are, on average, far below market value. By contrast, the players New Orleans has acquired (Jrue Holiday last year, now Asik) are paid what they're worth, relatively.

As FiveThirtyEight's Nate Silver once simplified, there are two ways to build a winning NBA team. One way is to pay more money than other teams. This avenue is surely not available to the Pelicans. The other is to be more efficient with your spending than other teams, and that's where first-round picks are invaluable. While there are bargains here and there, players on rookie contracts are the most reliably underpaid around.

Trading first-round picks shortcuts the process of competing, but it comes with a long-term price. New Orleans has the luxury of spending more on veterans now because of the league's best bargain, Anthony Davis' rookie contract. Davis will be paid $5.6 million this season, when he could emerge as one of the league's handful of most valuable players. The Pelicans get that bargain for only two more seasons, however. In 2016-17, Davis' salary will likely jump to the max, making it far more difficult for New Orleans to clear cap space. At that point, the Pelicans are going to wish they had reasonable rookie contracts to fill out their rotation rather than having to rely on scrounging for cheap free agents.

The shortcut might be worth it for a team designed to win now. That's not New Orleans, at least not in the brutal Western Conference. The Pelicans already figured to be one of the league's most improved teams next season, both because of Davis' development and better health after Holiday missed 48 games last season and super-sixth man Ryan Anderson missed 60. Asik will help that process, certainly. He's a vast improvement over the defensive-minded centers New Orleans played next to Davis last season: Alexis Ajinca, Greg Stiemsma and Jeff Withey.

Still, looking around the Western Conference, it's hard to see the Pelicans as one of the top four teams. There's even a chance, with more bad injury luck, they might miss the playoffs again. The last thing New Orleans needs is general manager Dell Demps sitting at the lottery again, hoping the Pelicans' pick leaps into the top three so they can keep it rather than sending it elsewhere.

The mechanics of this trade also make it somewhat more problematic for New Orleans. To swallow Asik's salary, they'll have to go under the cap after the new league year starts in July. That means the Pelicans must dump a contract (likely guard Austin Rivers), as well as renounce cap holds for their free agents (most notably, backup guards Anthony Morrow and Brian Roberts) and give up on the midlevel exception for the smaller room midlevel exception.

So after the trade, New Orleans will have seven players under contract and only the room exception ($2.7 million) to pay free agents more than the minimum. 2013 second-round pick Pierre Jackson will likely fill another spot, but the Pelicans could be woefully thin after their top nine players, making injuries a concern.
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But 'nikkas and Coli GMs' don't know shyt....:sas1:
 
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eastside313 said:
Yeah asik needs room on the block with that wonderful post game of his
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If he's gonna be playing 30 plus minutes (at that salary for a #1 pick that seems like the plan) you have to put him SOMEWHERE...You can't just use him on defense, have him cherry pick and run a 4 on 5 offense..So having him in the low post is pretty much their only option.. They can't run high pick and roll with him and they'd much rather have Davis on the wing or high post than him...


He's been around McHale and Hakeem for two years.. He should atleast be able to do a drop step or an up and under..
 
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gator_king said:
If he's gonna be playing 30 plus minutes (at that salary for a #1 pick that seems like the plan) you have to put him SOMEWHERE...You can't just use him on defense, have him cherry pick and run a 4 on 5 offense..So having him in the low post is pretty much their only option.. They can't run high pick and roll with him and they'd much rather have Davis on the wing or high post than him...


He's been around McHale and Hakeem for two years.. He should atleast be able to do a drop step or an up and under..
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Asik doesnt have any potential as a low post scorer, and never will

think Tyson Chandler
 
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gator_king said:
I never said he would be a scorer ,but where do you put him on offense?
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have him set as many screens as possible and keep him around the basket to gobble up offensive boards

for not having great hands, hes a great rebounder

i see what youre saying there now
 
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eastside313 said:
Yeah asik needs room on the block with that wonderful post game of his
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a team full of slashers and a big fukk like asik camping in the post.. it's called spacing.. and if he starts to hit that three twice a game.. it's a wrap.. stay laughin tho :mjpls:
 
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