"Women aren't built to have a connection with their man, only their offspring"

[Menelik II]

No I'm talking about births and you are pulling up living arrangements, 2 completely different topics.

Legitimacy (family law) - Wikipedia

ok births, but wheres the correlation between welfare state and births to unmarried? US should near the bottom of the chart with the lowest social welfare but its in the middle.

 

[BrokePhiBroke]

NO WOMAN WHO WANTED HER MAN IN THE FIRST PLACE THINKS LIKE THAT. NO WOMAN WANTS TO BE A SINGLE MOTHER.

It's just his oberservation lmao

Nah nikka you don't know women.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

There's women out there that are just as much deadbeats to their children as some men are...

 

[David_TheMan]

ok births, but wheres the correlation between welfare state and births to unmarried? US should near the bottom of the chart with the lowest social welfare but its in the middle.

You are the one who brought up welfare state, not me, if you want to argue what I actually said feel free to start

 

[Crayola Coyote]

I think women are on their best behavior towards their husbands right up until they have kids. Now they got a small version of their husbands running around sans the husband's flaws, to be raised into whatever sort of man she wants/ her ideal man who treats her like a queen and will always be there for her. She no longer needs the husband for his seed, and child support and alimony means she can completely cut the husband out of the child's life and raise the child without any dissenting points of view from her own. I truly think motherhood is the turning point for a lot of these women, because the fear of dying alone/ the desperation has been removed from the equation, so her true colors can emerge.

Just my observations

This. Makes to much sense

 

[Menelik II]

I think its true based on evolutionary biology.
A man values a womans companionship and ability to carry his seed.
A woman values mainly from a man the protection and security he provides her and her offspring.

Today's society tries to give women protection and security via the state or government, this in terms offsets her allegience to her male partner and makes her value her offspring more than the security provided to her by her male partner.

You are the one who brought up welfare state, not me, if you want to argue what I actually said feel free to start

your argument is government and state is supplementing womens need for man as protector. correct?

therefore countries with bigger government and welfare should have higher rates of single parent families according to your reasoning, and conversely small government anarchy state have low single parent families. there's no evidence of this.

 

[David_TheMan]

your argument is government and state is supplementing womens need for man as protector. correct?

therefore countries with bigger government and welfare should have higher rates of single parent families according to your reasoning, and conversely small government anarchy state have low single parent families. there's no evidence of this.

Yes the argument is the state or government, those protections it affords her aren't limited to welfare benefits and i'd say the biggest provision it gives women isn't direct monetary or housing assistance.

Its laws like allimony that award or subsidize poor partner choice at the detriment of men. Its child support systems that turn children into monetary tools for women. Its the family court system that divide assets of marriage participants with no regard for who actually worked to provide money to purchase assets.

So your contention that my argument regarding the state is confined to welfare recipients was a false assumption.
Ergo your critique is invalid.

As i said though, in western societies the state has replaced the man as the protector in the eyes of women, and they are acting accordingly, in response men are adjusting as well, no need to marry or seek a married life when the system is setup against you

 

[Menelik II]

Yes the argument is the state or government, those protections it affords her aren't limited to welfare benefits and i'd say the biggest provision it gives women isn't direct monetary or housing assistance.

Its laws like allimony that award or subsidize poor partner choice at the detriment of men. Its child support systems that turn children into monetary tools for women. Its the family court system that divide assets of marriage participants with no regard for who actually worked to provide money to purchase assets.

So your contention that my argument regarding the state is confined to welfare recipients was a false assumption.
Ergo your critique is invalid.

As i said though, in western societies the state has replaced the man as the protector in the eyes of women, and they are acting accordingly, in response men are adjusting as well, no need to marry or seek a married life when the system is setup against you

erm I never said that at all...

You still haven't provided any correlation at all between state/government/alimony/childsupport and single parent families though.

 

[Black Sinatra]

I really need to kick off that Youtube channel

There is definitely a niche to fill.

Women are built to connect with men and children. Connect is a lesser term for what a woman "feels" toward her child tho. The difference here is that there is a shelf life to formed connections with sexual/emotional partners, where there is none with children. They are your children until you die. They are above even the partner. They are the genetic furtherance of you and her into the future of which you are limited by age. Nurture is biological indeed...perfected over thousands of years, relationships are hormones...you can influence hormones with good dik and a well executed lie breh. It takes maintenance. Mothering is instinct...so yes women are built for both. The "connections" are different tho.

 

[David_TheMan]

erm I never said that at all...

You still haven't provided any correlation at all between state/government/alimony/childsupport and single parent families though.

I have with regard to the US if you look at the graph I provided. Links up perfectly with the rise of 2nd wave feminism and the fight and granting of positive rights and gender preference with an enlarging family court structure in the West and the US.

Laxing in the standards of granting divorce (no fault) in the 70s, risign claim for alimony in the 60s with female gender preference that wasn't removed to the 70s and still having no statistical impact on women being the vast majority to file for it, and systematic increasing in child support heavily brought in the 90s have all contributed to a rising rate of out of wedlock children in western society. The US, and western europe and nordic countries.

Women don't need men and they have the state present to subsidize their poor choosing of men monetarily

 

[Crayola Coyote]

In what reality is that a problem?

A man is a grown ass adult who can fend for himself and can survive independent of a woman.
A child is completely different story.

Child needs to hold his/her nuts like the husband

 

[Hungerpain]

Think women care about you brehs.
Women only care about how well you boost their self esteem how well you give them orgasms and if you can provide for them.
Nowadays only the first two matter which is the reason for the increased amount of Female tricks buying nikkas attention and dikk.
Women love kids,material shyt and Alpha dog dikk.
Women rarely even have "real" friend's.
They have no loyalties to anything but themselves and their kids 9/10.

 

[bouncy]

Women, just like anyone, have NO loyalty UNLESS they need you for something.

The reason why children connect so much, is because they came out of her body, and gave her the most emotional effects. That is not something your brain forgets. AND they watched them grow, so that builds a connection, at least until the child get their own ideas, and do their own thing, time away is time to forget.

As a man, the ONLY way you can get loyalty, is by giving her amazing orgasms consistently!

Because you are giving her strong, feel good emotions, she will naturally become "addicted" to you. This is why chicks who have men with money, still cheat on them for a bum nikka, the guy gives them strong emotions.

Its the same for women who know how to throw that thing.

SEX is what unites genders, and keeps us together!

Be careful who you fukk

You might me someone who ain't about shyt, but got you hooked

 

[bouncy]

I really need to kick off that Youtube channel

There is definitely a niche to fill.

Women are built to connect with men and children. Connect is a lesser term for what a woman "feels" toward her child tho. The difference here is that there is a shelf life to formed connections with sexual/emotional partners, where there is none with children. They are your children until you die. They are above even the partner. They are the genetic furtherance of you and her into the future of which you are limited by age. Nurture is biological indeed...perfected over thousands of years, relationships are hormones...you can influence hormones with good dik and a well executed lie breh. It takes maintenance. Mothering is instinct...so yes women are built for both. The "connections" are different tho.

Mothers have a shelf life, it just depends on how much emotion she gets with something or someone other then her children. I saw it with drugs, and with certain boyfriends. They will turn their backs on their children for those things because of the powerful emotions they release.

Once the thing or person leaves, the guilt of not messing with your children comes, and then its back to square one, but that is not from feeling, its from guilt of society.

Men don't have that same guilt because men aren't seen as the same as mothers. We are just seen as providers, and if you don't provide, no one cares. The truth is fathers love their children just as much as the mothers, but because no one cares, its easy for men to put their energy into other things like drugs, drinking, sex, or working, and just forget. Women can't do any of those things to escape guilt.

 

[Black Sinatra]

Mothers have a shelf life, it just depends on how much emotion she gets with something or someone other then her children. I saw it with drugs, and with certain boyfriends. They will turn their backs on their children for those things because of the powerful emotions they release.

Once the thing or person leaves, the guilt of not messing with your children comes, and then its back to square one, but that is not from feeling, its from guilt of society.

Men don't have that same guilt because men aren't seen as the same as mothers. We are just seen as providers, and if you don't provide, no one cares. The truth is fathers love their children just as much as the mothers, but because no one cares, its easy for men to put their energy into other things like drugs, drinking, sex, or working, and just forget. Women can't do any of those things to escape guilt.

A normal mothering instinct. Many women...specifically in our convoluted society are damaged/underdevoloped emotionally. Scarred even. This will undeniably affect the treatment of a child mothered by them. This is evidenced by a scarred woman bringing emotional baggage into a new relationship with a man. This is the exception and not rule.