Women have too much influence on Black masculinity

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

I agree. Honestly I never hear BM talk about the major issue concerning their demographic if it isn't putting the ultimate blame on BW. BM have issues that are very specific to them and they are literally the only ones who can solve them. Those conversations are so few and far in between they are basically don't exist.

 

[Jazzy B.]

It's that way because the community is a matriarchy

 

[Macallik86]

This absent father myth got to stop to. These women are choosing these situations.
Many of them don't want male leadership in the household. They want to run things and have complete control of the children. While at the same time they can blame the father when things don't work out and this society will automatically take their side.

"Oh well she didn't want me in my kid's life so I just dipped"

Then take that bytch to court and fight for you kids to improve their future. fukk are you even saying

 

[Cloutius Maximus]

No wonder a lot of yall balding and got receding hairlines yall be stressing and worrying about the dumbest shyt that you got no control over

"just be cool and accept being powerless"

 

[saturn7]

"Oh well she didn't want me in my kid's life so I just dipped"

Then take that bytch to court and fight for you kids to improve their future. fukk are you even saying

I'm saying these bytches be lying.

 

[V Skyye]

I agree. Honestly I never hear BM talk about the major issue concerning their demographic if it isn't putting the ultimate blame on BW. BM have issues that are very specific to them and they are literally the only ones who can solve them. Those conversations are so few and far in between they are basically don't exist.

Right. Yet a positive thread about ways to uplift Black men without focusing so much on Black women still turns into a focus on Black women. It’s almost like there’s no reason for Black men to live if it doesn’t involve attention and sex from women. There’s so many things both genders can do to improve themselves independently in order to become better partners and build better collectively.

 

[The Fade]

Damn near everything Black men do is for the approval of women. That is a problem.

This is part of the reason why Black men can't work together (especially economically) as well as men of other groups. We are always in competition with each other. We don't respect hierarchy (that means everyone playing a role, including taking orders from the person above you). We are always trying to be "that nikka". No one can accept just playing their position, because to these women it appears lame. She need a real Boss nikka because she's a Boss bytch (lol)

That's why he have seemingly 20 million Black business owners/CEO's but they have no fukking employees. You can't lone wolf your way to the top when competing against other groups of men who are working TOGETHER.
Not gunning each other down in the streets over a pair of Foamposites.

The first person in life a Black Man needs to defeat is his momma!

According to the 2007 Federal Survey of Business Owners, of 1.9 million Black-owned firms, 1.8 million are classified as SOLE PROPRIETORSHIPS. The average receipts for these NONEMPLOYEE firms were a paltry 22,270

Black Americans spend more than 700 billion annually yet black owned businesses receive less than one half of 1 percent of all sales receipts generated in the US

 

[PortCityProphet]

"just be cool and accept being powerless"

What power do black women have over you?
The ones you actually know and interact with?

 

[Ziggiy]

I agree 100%


Everybody gets to define masculinity for Black men EXCEPT BLACK MEN.


Its absurd. Absolutely bizarre

 

[Dameon Farrow]

Username checks out 276.5675%

 

[Ziggiy]

I don't agree with 'taking black women out of the equation' but yes a lot of black men are very bound to auntie, big mama and mama

Never taking them out of equation just not making them the AUTHORITY when it comes to defining black male masculinity and codes of conduct

 

[Piff Perkins]

To me there aren’t many things less masculine than complaining about what people think about your standard of masculine nature. There has been a clear conflation of “toxic” masculinity and masculinity, to the point it’s clear certain people don’t want men to do anything. We also see a deliberate effort to put every noteworthy male actor on a platform and ask him to deny his masculinity. I’m not saying toxic traits don’t exist but men are constantly stereotyped by the toxic traits.

Masculinity to me is about respect, honor, doing the right thing, being assertive when needed, and protecting your family. These are the traits our grandfathers used to build communities, defend the nation, and raise families. When you allow masculinity to be defined by negative connotations surrounding being rude or violent you’re voluntarily agreeing to debate on quicksand. Women no longer allow men to dictate the boundaries of femininity. Good for women for standing up for themselves. Men should do the same for themselves.

 

[Ziggiy]

If that's the case then it's pointless to bother with even being in a majority white country like the US. And it'd be better to move to Black majority countries instead. Which I think is the only solution.

Because you're dealing with 400 years of Black people not being in charge of any part of this country.

And a pro white/anti-Black religion like christianity being used to brainwash them to the point where they pray to a white man to save them from their situation.

And it's also used to push the idea that they should tolerate white backed misery.

Which is why religion is so effective at destroying a people and why cacs sent the missionaries along with their soldiers to different lands. Because they knew that if you could get people to pray to a racial representation of you then you've already beaten them.

So much truth here.


I think that the majority of black people are afraid to leave en mass is because it would be looked at as an admittance in the failure of “This is OUR country too!” Philosophy. Black Americans have given so much, invested so much, and sacrificed so much for this land that we’re in stuck a loop of constantly awaiting a validation that is NEVER going to be awarded to us. But as long as that carrot is dangled in front of us we’ll chase it, because deep down we don’t want it to have all been for nothing.

 

[RichYung]

I agree with OP.

 

[WIA20XX]

And Black American men will never develop a healthier sense of self until we take them out of the equation.
I’m not saying we as men don’t have toxic beliefs nor am I saying we didn’t foster and originate some of these toxic ideas, but there is currently too much noise surrounding these conversations to leave it the way it is now.
This is not a bash Black women thread.
This is a Black men taking responsibility and accountability for the betterment of ourselves and our futures.
It is partly our fault as a collective that productive Black men are seen in an unflattering light because of comparison to a caricature that we(no not you personally) have helped popularize, and that’s precisely why change starts with us and only us.

Nothing stopping you from marrying some of these single moms out there to be a positive influence on their sons and show them the right way.
You probably need to set up a plural/polygamous structure to do it properly.

Be the change you want to see.