Women have too much influence on Black masculinity

Flywin Lannister

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Any man who lets social media influence how they move

Is yet to become a grown man

I never hear this anti black man talk in real life

So I don’t care about some lonely, single woman who is upset with her ex basically

That’s not how Black men should move, at all
 

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I’ve already pointed out this on here.
That’s the main problem with patriarchy vs matriarchy.

In a patriarchy men decide what makes you a man of value, in a matriarchy women decide what makes you a man of value.

Women suck at assigning societal value to men.

People act like this is a bitter idea, but I’m a tall conventionally attractive man, and can tell you women (especially black women) value that above every other trait a man can have when they decide whether they like you or not.

You don’t have weird dynamics revolving around male height, sexual prowess, attractiveness in societies where the elder men get to decide “who’s the man”, a short ugly dude can be “the man” if he provides value and opportunity to your group through intelligence or wit.

When you hang around groups of successful men you realize they recreate this dynamic, the chief isn’t the chief because he has the most women, he’s the chief because he put more of his brothers on than anybody else.
Its true. Thanks to simps and their enablers.

Black Men don't have control over their image in the media, and people use exaggerated stereotypes to harm us. Now we gotta be Ghost from Power mixed with super tight mouthpieces, have artifically sharp hairlines, have the latest kicks, smoke the best weed, and drive luxury whips just to be seen in the dating demographics.
This is facts. You see it everywhere in the culture, its gotten to point manhood is seen thru the lense of the women. Do you have "swag" is more important than intelligence, your ability to crash out and be an attack dog so they can announce "my nikka will shoot this whole place up", do you have a mouthpiece and all that comes with it really have young black men looking for initiation into manhood in between a women legs..
 

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This is facts. You see it everywhere in the culture, its gotten to point manhood is seen thru the lense of the women. Do you have "swag" is more important than intelligence, your ability to crash out and be an attack dog so they can announce "my nikka will shoot this whole place up", do you have a mouthpiece and all that comes with it really have young black men looking for initiation into manhood in between a women legs..
i'd say thats all young American men right now, it's just particularly bad with us
 

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Damn near everything Black men do is for the approval of women. That is a problem.

This is part of the reason why Black men can't work together (especially economically) as well as men of other groups. We are always in competition with each other. We don't respect hierarchy (that means everyone playing a role, including taking orders from the person above you). We are always trying to be "that nikka". No one can accept just playing their position, because to these women it appears lame. She need a real Boss nikka because she's a Boss bytch (lol)

That's why he have seemingly 20 million Black business owners/CEO's but they have no fukking employees. You can't lone wolf your way to the top when competing against other groups of men who are working TOGETHER.
Not gunning each other down in the streets over a pair of Foamposites.

The first person in life a Black Man needs to defeat is his momma!
 

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Damn near everything Black men do is for the approval of women. That is a problem.

This is part of the reason why Black men can't work together (especially economically) as well as men of other groups. We are always in competition with each other. We don't respect hierarchy (that means everyone playing a role, including taking orders from the person above you). We are always trying to be "that nikka". No one can accept just playing their position, because to these women it appears lame. She need a real Boss nikka because she's a Boss bytch (lol)

That's why he have seemingly 20 million Black business owners/CEO's but they have no fukking employees. You can't lone wolf your way to the top when competing against other groups of men who are working TOGETHER.
Not gunning each other down in the streets over a pair of Foamposites.

The first person in life a Black Man needs to defeat is his momma!

This post is Golden!

Can't be the super alpha boss when the world is based on teamwork! Still stuck in that high school mentality to show off to hoes, when grown behaving men can get better quality women with less superficial effort.
 

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I don't agree with 'taking black women out of the equation' but yes a lot of black men are very bound to auntie, big mama and mama
I think that's because we as black ppl are disproportionately raised in single parent (read: mostly all women) households.

I think there's an irony in saying women have too much influence on what it means to be a man while there are a sizable # of absent fathers in our community.

And this is coming not as someone who is anti-man but as a someone whose father also wasn't in his life and had to figure things out the hard way.
 

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I think that's because we as black ppl are disproportionately raised in single parent (read: mostly all women) households.

I think there's an irony in saying women have too much influence on what it means to be a man while there are a sizable # of absent fathers in our community.

And this is coming not as someone who is anti-man but as a someone whose father also wasn't in his life and had to figure things out the hard way.

This absent father myth got to stop to. These women are choosing these situations.
Many of them don't want male leadership in the household. They want to run things and have complete control of the children. While at the same time they can blame the father when things don't work out and this society will automatically take their side.
 

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And Black American men will never develop a healthier sense of self until we take them out of the equation.
I’m not saying we as men don’t have toxic beliefs nor am I saying we didn’t foster and originate some of these toxic ideas, but there is currently too much noise surrounding these conversations to leave it the way it is now.
This is not a bash Black women thread.
This is a Black men taking responsibility and accountability for the betterment of ourselves and our futures.
It is partly our fault as a collective that productive Black men are seen in an unflattering light because of comparison to a caricature that we(no not you personally) have helped popularize, and that’s precisely why change starts with us and only us.
Seems like you partially understand what's going on. Blacks don't control our narrative in the media nor our image. This goes way beyond pointing the finger at black women. Overall we come up short for being so impressionable to what we see and not holding to our own norms. This applies to men and women.
 

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The situation we're in on this topic is straight out of the rulership 101 playbook. Elevate the woman over the man, put her in charge of the children, because she's going to follow whoever is in power, that being the white power structure (even if she doesn't consciously realize it) who divests power and authority into her hands.

Women are put at an advantage because they are followers by nature and they're not a threat to the powers that be's position.

Pretty sure this even happened in the Bible where all the men are killed in Egypt and the women are spared. So that the next generation will be thoroughly locked down.
 

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No wonder a lot of yall balding and got receding hairlines yall be stressing and worrying about the dumbest shyt that you got no control over:mjlol:
 
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