Would things have went differently for Jay in 2001 if he went the Not Like Us route?

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Jay's disses weren't more factual. Jay was speaking to fans. Nas was speaking to Jay. THAT'S the difference. We can't apply what's going on now vs then anyway. It's completely different.
didnt Jay fukk nas BM, put it in a song, then nas BM confirmed it
 

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Dudes literally change the rules for who they like more. If we use real life metrics for this jay and Nas beef, jay won, But nikkas just like nas more.
I mean dude literally ficked ol BOY Bm. If it's real beef that's automatically a win
 

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When you think about it, he tried it. He was supposed to be on oh boy as a remix but Camron deleted it. His verse was about Nas according to juelz. That verse would be extremely memorable to this day.
I don’t know if “Nas you ain’t the Boy” bars was gonna get it done :pachaha:
 

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If Drake ficked k dot light girl, nobody would care about the songs
 

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That wasn't in Takeover aside from him alluding to it. And that's literally the only fact in that shyt. Nas said facts too. Like about Jay calling his crib n all that.
Comparing those 2 facts is insane.nikkas ain't real enough to say that eter was a great song But It really don't have much real life stuff.
Jay was brilliant with that line about do you fools actually listen to what's being said??
 

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Dudes literally change the rules for who they like more. If we use real life metrics for this jay and Nas beef, jay won, But nikkas just like nas more.
I mean dude literally ficked ol BOY Bm. If it's real beef that's automatically a win

Jay thought that was the kill shot but Nas laughed it off like it was nothing and that's a big part of why he won.

You compare their radio appearances after Ether and Super Ugly, Nas was laughing and clowning Jay, while Jay was stuttering, voice cracking like he was about to cry.

There was a lot more facts in Ether than Hov stans care to admit. You think Hov was shook like that off "schoolyard insults?"

Most factual track of the feud was Last Real Nikka Alive where Nas dismissed him from class.

Far as the thread topic Jay couldn't have gone that route because Nas had been calling him out for being a sellout and a shallow pop artist. BP2 was seen as weak in real time because of all them shameless cac pandering pop attempts.

That's another reason Super Ugly failed, it played right into what Nas saying. Called him a woman hater in Ether, then his response is to humiliate a woman to try and get at Nas. Then all of a sudden the next year he's on that Excuse Me Miss, Bonnie and Clyde wave :huhldup:

Now what's fortunate for Jay is that Nas ain't drop a Made You Look type track right after Super Ugly, where he was just clowning on Jay mercilessly and treating him like a joke
 

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It would've been even funnier if it went the other way. Because like Kendrick, Nas isn't a guy that typically makes radio hits so if Nas suddenly followed up Ether with a MASSIVE hit with a Neptunes beat and Kelis singing just shytting on Jay and having bytches singing "fukk Gay-Z!" he might've actually hurt his career :russ:

Why do yall say this Kendrick has had a LOT of hit records.
 

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Yea OP you have it backwards, Jay would be Drake in that situation and Nas would be Kendrick. Somebody already said it would be like Nas immediately coming with “Made You Look” after “Ether”.
 

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Even Jay knew around 2003 that he had to chill for a while. All these factors played a part in his “retirement”

-Everyone still clowning him about Ether

- Nas running a victory lap on Jay(He threw some jabs on Quick To Back Down)

- The 50 Cent/G-Unit invasion

I don’t think so but then again Jay tried to pull that with Is That Yo Bytch?? and it failed. Jay sent MB out there and Nas let a slug melt in his hat.
 

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In this scenario wouldn't it be Nas, and Made You Look would be the response to Super Ugly? If that happened....oh boy.
:dead: :dead: :dead:

Curtains.

Those gunshots after that Ominous beat by Salaam Remi..


:picard::picard:

Nas would have had Jay hiring extra security. QB nikkas would probably play that while they was on the hunt for any Roc dudes.


Jungle probably would have tied Bleek up in a trunk
 
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