Would y’all support a communist government?

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How can something be proven to work if no one's ever done it?

There's a difference between a communist government and communism.

Communist governments seek to achieve a communist society. ...which is a society without classes.

The thread is about would you support a communist government...abd I am saying yeah...they get people out of poverty quickly since they plan their economy

Communist governments do work.
 

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Fidel kind of made him his personal American reporter.

i’m sure that documentary isn’t biased as fukk :mjlol:


i’m theory, i support socialism and communism. but true communism will never be abtainable because of human nature’s desire for power. before communism can come to its true form after what’s seen as the necessary shyt of power from the capitalist to the communist to “control” things until shyts figured out, that’s where the problem within communism is. you give someone that much power, they don’t want to give it up, hence why a lot of communist countries become authoritarian and or mimick a capitalist society or become worse.

any person who advocates communism and is a communist but doesn’t want to discuss that shift of power that is considered necessary within communist circles or by communist and the flawed “steps” that lead to authoritarianism in many “communist” places shouldn’t be taken seriously. any person who deflects and says “those are not truly communist countries” to avoid criticism of communism isn’t worth engaging. for communism to come to its “true form” following ideology those discussions need to be had and there needs to be a new way to shift the power from the capitalist to the proletariat controlling the means of production without a person being chosen to be “in charge” because where shyt goes wrong because of humans desire for power and want to keep it.
 

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Where are you guys getting this info from ? Anytime a country moves toward socialism or communism WORLD powers squeeze them out of everything and support opposition.

You guys don't know what your talking about .

I already stated such(that's what I mean by "adequate context") in my initial post :beli: ...and even expanded it to include attempts at democracy as well.:ufdup:
You think you're going to have a productive conversation about political systems in TLR :skip:





I'm not an advocate for communism nor democracy ....outside of an adequate context
(you can't be a small 2-10million citizen emerging economy trying to practice "democracy" in a context where even mid size foreign companies, not to mention large nations can buy your elections)

That's the problem with a place like Cuba or even Zimbabwe. once you take over a country like that you are not in a context to practice "democracy" as larger more established countries do. The best you could do is a china and...
1. Seal yourself off from the rest of the world(no travelers or foreign investors).
2. Create a # year development plan
3. Establish(successfully practice) your political system and method of political transition
4. Establish a core educational & economic track
  • Fund private citizen merchants to go overseas and purchase needs like medical supplies, cars, electronics, etc.
  • Create a teachers university by funding private citizens to go overseas and bring back knowledge of vital industries.
5. Provide resources in terms of land & seed money to establish basic economy(feed, cloth, house the nation) based on #4 above.
6. Then open your country up to foreign travelers & international business
 
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Trump would've never been president in a communist government and the republicans would be morally screwed because they wouldn't benefit off the healthcare system. That is also why we have been systematically brainwashed to believe communism is evil. Obama care was the closest thing to socialism and the government went to all odds even hiring a racist dikkhead of a guy after Obama to bring money back into their pockets and elevate the stock market even if it meant fukking over the economy. Ppl automatically assume communism means set wages when in fact it means a doctor will get more financial benefits off of the health of their patients as opposed to chopping off limbs to stop a bullet wound or diabetes. This country will either fall to capitalism and greed or accept the inevitable and come to terms with the democrats socialist views. In other words, trumps not getting impeached. We will suffer another depression worse than world war 2, we are Germany and we're totally fukked in the upcoming years so get ready.
 
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Trump would've never been president in a communist government and the republicans would be morally screwed because they wouldn't benefit off the healthcare system. That is also why we have been systematically brainwashed to believe communism is evil. Obama care was the closest thing to socialism and the government went to all odds even hiring a racist dikkhead of a guy after Obama to bring money back into their pockets and elevate the stock market even if it meant fukking over the economy. Ppl automatically assume communism means set wages when in fact it means a doctor will get more financial benefits off of the health of their patients as opposed to chopping off limbs to stop a bullet wound or diabetes. This country will either fall to capitalism and greed or accept the inevitable and come to terms with the democrats socialist views. In other words, trumps not getting impeached. We will suffer another depression worse than world war 2, we are Germany and we're totally fukked in the upcoming years so get ready.
Obama only supplied socialism to bankers and rich people . Food stamps and cell phones is not socialism .
 

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i’m sure that documentary isn’t biased as fukk :mjlol:


i’m theory, i support socialism and communism. but true communism will never be abtainable because of human nature’s desire for power. before communism can come to its true form after what’s seen as the necessary shyt of power from the capitalist to the communist to “control” things until shyts figured out, that’s where the problem within communism is. you give someone that much power, they don’t want to give it up, hence why a lot of communist countries become authoritarian and or mimick a capitalist society or become worse.

any person who advocates communism and is a communist but doesn’t want to discuss that shift of power that is considered necessary within communist circles or by communist and the flawed “steps” that lead to authoritarianism in many “communist” places shouldn’t be taken seriously. any person who deflects and says “those are not truly communist countries” to avoid criticism of communism isn’t worth engaging. for communism to come to its “true form” following ideology those discussions need to be had and there needs to be a new way to shift the power from the capitalist to the proletariat controlling the means of production without a person being chosen to be “in charge” because where shyt goes wrong because of humans desire for power and want to keep it.

Lol it wasn’t biased. Those who didn’t want to put in work for the better of the country were allowed to leave.

But I agree with you that if you have a sane, stable leader who won’t turn into a dictator l, then communism can thrive.
 

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How many people in america are out of work because theu refuse to learn something new and adapt to the times.
 

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i'd take some good old fashioned true democratic socialism for all first. :jbhmm:
 

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There's no such thing as a "communist government"; communism is a stateless, classless society, and it is not something that can exist in one country, nor is it something that a group of people can come together and decide to establish.

Please refer to Spin: Introduction to Socialism for more

But yes, I DO support communism in the sense that I hope humanity reaches it, and I support the working class overthrowing capitalism and bringing about the end of wage slavery (wage labor).
 

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Im watching this documentary on Netflix called “Cuba and the Cameraman” about this reporter who has been going to Cuba since the early 70s to document life there, and Fidel kind of made him his personal American reporter.

Listening to Fidel and his ideas for his country, it seemed like his heart was in the right place and all he wanted to do was take care of his people. I have been studying communism since I was a teenager & have always been a fan of it.

I think at the town or city level it could work, but a whole country on that type of system would take a while to be successful.

How does TLR feel about communism?
I Would support a Democratic-Socialist government, but NEVER communist because it leads to a dictatorship. Just like the Fascist era in Spain and Italy.
 
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