Would you support a movement to get Obama elected to a 3rd term?

[mc_brew]

Seriously though, I would make the limit 3 terms, not two. Doesn't mean he would be elected a third time however.

2 terms is long enough.... you have to be careful what you wish for... if the limit were 3 terms we might have had 12 years of bush... how would that have worked out for the world...

 

[CHL]

2 terms is long enough.... you have to be careful what you wish for... if the limit were 3 terms we might have had 12 years of bush... how would that have worked out for the world...

True, but surely after the disaster of Iraq and an economy in the midst of collapsing Americans wouldn't have voted that moron in a third time though?

 

[The Watcher]

True, but surely after the disaster of Iraq and an economy in the midst of collapsing Americans wouldn't have voted that moron in a third time though?

We didn't vote him in the first time and possibly not the second time either. I have no doubt Bush Jr could've stolen himself a 3rd term and finished selling us off to his family's corporate friends with social security privatization, even with those -20% favorables.

 

[tmonster]

No thanks, I'm ready to see what Sanders does with all this socialism talk

 

[OsO]

No thanks, I'm ready to see what Sanders does with all this socialism talk

You seem like an intelligent person... What on Earth makes you believe Sanders is going to beat Clinton for the nomination?

 

[Brown_Pride]

Nope.

 

[ill]

If I wanted to live in a dictatorship with changing term limits, I'd move back to Russia.

Just because you like this current President doesn't mean we should set a precedent and change the term limits for him. They are there for a reason. Flip the script and ask the same question as if Bush was still in office. Now, do you still want more than two term limits?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No thanks, I'm ready to see what Sanders does with all this socialism talk

Bernie is MORE sparse on talking points than some republicans, and thats going to become problematic.

 

[CHL]

If I wanted to live in a dictatorship with changing term limits, I'd move back to Russia.

Just because you like this current President doesn't mean we should set a precedent and change the term limits for him. They are there for a reason. Flip the script and ask the same question as if Bush was still in office. Now, do you still want more than two term limits?

You're right, the terrible dictatorship in Australia with their zero term limits and five PM's in five years illustrate this point well. Also Japan, shout out to the Japanese people living under their tyrannous dictatorship.

 

[ill]

You're right, the terrible dictatorship in Australia with their zero term limits and five PM's in five years illustrate this point well. Also Japan, shout out to the Japanese people living under their tyrannous dictatorship.

Assad, Saddam, Putin. Next?

And Australia doesn't need term limits. Your leaders like to resign every year or two anyways. Sweet leadership breh!

 

[hayesc0]

I don't have a problem with him but I don't think you should be able to serve more then two terms consecutively if he wants to run in 2020 I think it should be legal to do that.

 

[CHL]

Assad, Saddam, Putin. Next?

And Australia doesn't need term limits. Your leaders like to resign every year or two anyways. Sweet leadership breh!

One was an election, three were intra party leadership spills (two of which involved the same two people)

Cool fallacies by the way, none of those countries had or have a functioning democracy, unless you want to make a case for your homeland.

Regardless you won't be laughing when the Japanese Caliphate and their dictatorship launches an offensive on the world.

 

[ill]

One was an election, three were intra party leadership spills (two of which involved the same two people)

Cool fallacies by the way, none of those countries had or have a functioning democracy, unless you want to make a case for your homeland.

Regardless you won't be laughing when the Japanese Caliphate and their dictatorship launches an offensive on the world.

Meh, the Japanese are only going to attack China and maybe bad Korea. I'll be alright.

Anyway, democracies are not created equal and Americas was built in a way to defend against monarchy rule.

Throughout his writings, Jefferson was more concerned with rotation in office the higher the office held. Here, he speaks of the need for limited terms in the office of President and Senator.

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  "I apprehend that the total abandonment of the principle of rotation in the offices of President and Senator will end in abuse." --Thomas Jefferson to E. Rutledge, 1788.

The fears that Jefferson held of monarchy led him to express his reservations in terms of an executive office becoming hereditary. But the principle of an executive seizing too much power and the fear of his using his power to remain in office was surely a valid one.

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  "If some period be not fixed, either by the Constitution or by practice, to the services of the First Magistrate, his office, though nominally elective, will in fact be for life; and that will soon degenerate into an inheritance." --Thomas Jefferson to Weaver, 1807.

Jefferson was especially troubled by the possibility of the President becoming through custom an office for life, and sought himself to establish the precedent of holding the office for only two terms, which did indeed prevail until Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected to a third and a fourth term, which, in fact, turned out to be "for life."

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  "General Washington set the example of voluntary retirement after eight years. I shall follow it, and a few more precedents will oppose the obstacle of habit to anyone after a while who shall endeavor to extend his term. Perhaps it may beget a disposition to establish it by an amendment of the Constitution." --Thomas Jefferson to J. Taylor, 1805.

After President Roosevelt's election to a fourth term, Congress finally passed and sent to the states the 22nd Amendment limiting the President to two terms of office. Roosevelt had been re-elected to a 3rd and 4th term because of the threat and then the reality of World War II. As Jefferson had noted back then, however, there will always be an excuse for the President seeking more than two terms.

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  "If the principle of rotation be a sound one, as I conscientiously believe it to be with respect to this office, no pretext should ever be permitted to dispense with it, because there never will be a time when real difficulties will not exist and furnish a plausible pretext for dispensation." --Thomas Jefferson to H. Guest, 1809.

 

[Atlrocafella]

I don't have a problem with him but I don't think you should be able to serve more then two terms consecutively if he wants to run in 2020 I think it should be legal to do that.

I like this idea as well.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

No thanks, I'm ready to see what Sanders does with all this socialism talk

Stand in the way of the Caliphate, Brehs. Stand in the way of the purest form of socialism, Brehs.