ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
No, he didn't.
Would you take Rose over Goran Dragic?
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DetroitEWarren
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41 PERCENT OF HIS ATTEMPTS WERE AT THE RIM....
THE HIGHEST OF HIS CAREER.
I BELIEVE THATS THE STAT YOURE REFERING TO.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME HE ATTACKED THE RIM AT A HIGHER RATE THAN ANY OTHER GUARD.
SO INSTEAD OF FG%
ITS FGA%
THE HIGHEST OF HIS CAREER.
I BELIEVE THATS THE STAT YOURE REFERING TO.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME HE ATTACKED THE RIM AT A HIGHER RATE THAN ANY OTHER GUARD.
SO INSTEAD OF FG%
ITS FGA%
DetroitEWarren
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@Draje
So u not gone answer my question about me asking why are u lying about Rose and Dragic from mid range bruh????? What's up with the agenda fam????? Dragic HAS ALWAYS BEEN DAMN NEAR AWFUL FROM MID RANGE, BELOW AVERAGE AT BEST. Roses 3 was broke as fukk past year, why throw in the false "mid range" problem if u don't have an agenda. Please spit them bars to me fam
So u not gone answer my question about me asking why are u lying about Rose and Dragic from mid range bruh????? What's up with the agenda fam????? Dragic HAS ALWAYS BEEN DAMN NEAR AWFUL FROM MID RANGE, BELOW AVERAGE AT BEST. Roses 3 was broke as fukk past year, why throw in the false "mid range" problem if u don't have an agenda. Please spit them bars to me fam
DetroitEWarren
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Fasho, that's probably what dude was talking bout on The Jump, good looking on clearing that up for me my nikka41 PERCENT OF HIS ATTEMPTS WERE AT THE RIM....
THE HIGHEST OF HIS CAREER.
I BELIEVE THATS THE STAT YOURE REFERING TO.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME HE ATTACKED THE RIM AT A HIGHER RATE THAN ANY OTHER GUARD.
SO INSTEAD OF FG%
ITS FGA%
Your logic is so horrendously flawed. You have to be trolling.Cancerous playstyle huh???????
That nikka just came off a roster that included an unhappy Melo, a shytty ass old school system, a shytty ass roster, ect. Rose also was used to those CHI teams with Tibs running him into the ground and Rose being the ONLY nikka on the whole team who could average 15ppg, let alone the great numbers he actually had those years.
Oh yea, as the ONLY option on that team they finished top 4 in the conference damn near every season. DAMN, THAT CANCEROUS PLAYER ENDED UP BEING THE CURE FOR AIDS
If Rose was the #1 option anywhere RIGHT NOW, he'd score 23-25ppg on a high fg% (45-47%) EASILY, and they'd be a playoff team according to the pieces around him. I already know nikkas bout to be like (hell naw, he's done, he's trash, he's garbage, knee joke, has tunnel vision, ect) when most of these dumb ass nikkas don't realize that 18ppg as a 3rd option in only 30mpg would EASILY be 23+ppg as a #1 option if he was playing 35-38mpg.
it's like, all of u nikkas are flat out trolling just to shyt on D Rose
, all I want to ask is WHY. LIKE, WTF HAS D ROSE DONE OUTSIDE OF BALLIN THE fukk OUT ON THE COURT????? Knee injuries aren't shyt anymore, matter fact, MOST PLAYERS COME BACK MORE EXPLOSIVE OR JUST AS EXPLOSIVE AS BEFORE ACL SURGERY. Look at Dennis Smith JR for one, look how great STAT was after the 2005 ACL injury, Jabari Parker, ect. Doctors have gotten MUCH BETTER at the surgery since Amare got his. Rose has not lost a single step, you nikkas are just how ass nikkas who hasn't even paid attention AT ALL, but want to have an opinion on the shyt
nikkas assume Rose is washed just cause the Knicks had a awful year last season. You nikkas are cool with looking dumb as fukk online, me personally, im going to do some research on some shyt I don't 100% know about. I don't make assumptions on players I don't watch
, that's hoe shyt.
So............... FOR THE 2ND YEAR IN A ROW CLEVELAND HAS BY FAR THE BEST ROSTER IN NBA HISTORY ON PAPER, ONLY THIS TIME WE KNOW THAT THE OLDER PLAYERS ON THIS ROOSTER IS FAR FROM WASHED AND YOU HAVE 5 nikkaS WHO HAS AVERAGED OVER 20PPG within the last 3 seasons. You also have 5 more players who has averaged over 15ppg iover the last few seasons.
THIS IS THE BEST ROSTER EVER ON PAPER AND ON THE COURT.............................. AND THEY STILL DONT STAND A CHANCE VS GOLDEN STATE LMAO. Y'ALL nikkaS CAN GO AHEAD AND FEEL LIKE CLE STANDS A CHANCE, BUT THEY WILL GET THEY ASSES WASHED PLAYING "BRON BALL' AGAINST GS AND ONCE AGAIN CAUSE BRON HAS THE BALL IN HIS HANDS ALL POSSESSION, HE GETS HIS YEARLY PASS ONCE AGAIN WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE TEAM GETS THE BLAME FOR THE LOSS.
This season is bout to be fukkin live bruh,
Rose wouldn't last a a no.1 option anywhere, he'd be shooting 41-42% and worse on threes. The numbers would be trash breh
DetroitEWarren
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Yea breh, I forgot he played on the "superteam" NY Knicks and that's the only reason he shot 47%, he had great players all around him helping him get buckets
. My bad breh, I stand corrected again .And those godly offensive teams he had while on the Bulls were just so
on offense, the great Joakim Noah and Luol Deng has D Rose getting easy buckets all game. I mean, u couldn't double him cause Noah was such a knock down shooter he played against single coverage every single game . Rose owes his whole career to nikkas like Joakim, Courtney Lee, Herangomez, Carlos Boozer, Rip Hamilton, ect. How could I ever forget 
Come on bruh, shyt has nothing to do with D Rose P&R skills, lmao at you thinking cause a nikka 3 ain't deadly that a team would COMPLETELY abandon using P&R smh. Come on bruh, I know u are smarter than that, now u seem like u are pushing back an agenda.
First off, D ROSE 3 BALL WAS BAD LAST YEAR, NOT HIS MID RANGE JUMPER. HE WAS MONEY FROM MID RANGE ALL SEASON, ALL OF HIS POINTS CAME FROM MID RANGE AND IN THE PAINT.
U are on some bullshyt my nikka. HOW DO U NOT KNOW HOW THE TRIANGLE IS RAN).
THE PG IS USELESS IN PHIL JACKSONS TRIANGLE MY nikka, PHIL JACKSON NEVER HAD A SINGLE PG AVERAGE OVER 15pts OR OVER 5ast, NOT A SINGLE DAMN TIME. The Knicks whole system was fukkin trash and Rose still put up numbers AS A 3rd OPTION MY nikka. I DONT THINK U QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT IM SAYING HERE.
D Rose had to force his way to the basket in the open court or half court BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS MADE FOR HIM TO PASS TO THE ELBOW AND GET THE fukk OUT OF THE WAY, DRAGIC IS THE #1 OPTION ON MIAMI AND THE PG IN A P@R SYSTEM, HE AINT GOTTA FORCE shyt, HE IS PUT IN HIS FAVORITE SPOTS NATURALLY. With all this being said, ROSE STILL GAVE U 18ppg ON 47% FROM THE FIELD IN 30mpg, case closed my nikka.
Dragic is below average from mid range, D Rose was above average from mid all season, stop with the bullshyt bro bro. Rose is a much better finisher, he doesn't drive for contact cause first off refs swallowed their whistle last season for Rose, period. 2nd off, why force contact when that makes it harder to make the layup and u aren't always gonna get a foul call, that's dumb bro lol. If I got the speed and hangtime like Rose im attacking the basket to finish cleanly, not to try and draw a foul
My God I can't wait for this season
You said he didn't get many PnR last year and it was his most used way of getting his offense last year. His mid-range was not automatic, go show me the stats that corroborate it.
Dragic isn't the number one option. The Heat tend to play inside out and Waiters/Dragic took turns. Dragic and Rose had similar usage rates.
Dragic is great from 3, Rose is one of the worst three point shooters in the league. You said Rose is much better in Isolation but the stats show that Dragic was a better Isolation player.
You said Rose is better around the rim, Dragic's efficiency around the rim was just as good except Dragic is better at creating contact and drawing fouls. You're saying the refs swallowed their whistle for Rose but Dragic is one of the most disrespected players in the leagu and has had teeth knocked out while not getting fouls called.
@Draje
So u not gone answer my question about me asking why are u lying about Rose and Dragic from mid range bruh????? What's up with the agenda fam????? Dragic HAS ALWAYS BEEN DAMN NEAR AWFUL FROM MID RANGE, BELOW AVERAGE AT BEST. Roses 3 was broke as fukk past year, why throw in the false "mid range" problem if u don't have an agenda. Please spit them bars to me fam
Dragic
3-10 feet : 49%
10-16: 41%
16-25: 38
Rose:
3-10: 41%
10-16: 43%
16-25:45%
So Rose is better at long 2s but I was counting everything from 3-10 feet too where Dragic is much better
But calling Dragic awful when he rarely takes long 2s ever (Because he's an elite three point shooter and long 2s are the worst shot unless you're MJ or Dirk) is stupid.
Dragic is still better at every other thing I mentioned.
Again, they played similar minutes and had a similar level of teammates. You're talking about Rose's teammates like the Heat weren't starting Rodney McGruder, Okaro White, and Willie Reed or one of the most injured teams in the league. You talking ball-stoppers like Dragic wasn't playing with a Whiteside and Waiters.
The Heat went 11-30 but only the Knicks were having issues and Dragic wasn't dealing with personell or injury issues now?
Like I said, Dragic and Rose used the PnR to create their offense a similar percentage of times across the season but Dragic was MUCH BETTER. You brought up how they scored in ISO but Dragic was MUCH BETTER.
Explain those.
The Heat went 11-30 but only the Knicks were having issues and Dragic wasn't dealing with personell or injury issues now?
Like I said, Dragic and Rose used the PnR to create their offense a similar percentage of times across the season but Dragic was MUCH BETTER. You brought up how they scored in ISO but Dragic was MUCH BETTER.
Explain those.
So Rose put up better numbers than Dragic?
My response is not about who's better. It's about your agenda. You knew before you made this thread that most posters were going to pick Dragic over Rose so there was no point.lol
For the record the Knicks had a lot of internal dysfunction plus the playing in a system that didn't fit him is why his numbers were down. He'll probably be better than Dragic this season tho.
Have no idea about Rose beasting last season brehs
It's like............ Yo ass went straight to game logs, and advanced statistics lmao. Matter of fact, not even advanced stats, this nikka clicked on the player cards for Rose and Dragic on NBA.COM brehs
Who looks at highlights and thinks that's a decent way to compare players?
And of course I checked out their statistics. You started making claims like the Knicks didn't run PnR for Rose and Rose scored better in Isolation so I checked that shyt out and it was straight BS.
You're using highlight videos instead of their performance on the court. Dragic scored better, assisted better, shot better, played better defense, etc.
But Rose is much better at long 2s.
From 0-3 feet, Rose shot 55% and Dragic shot 61% but Rose definitely attacked more but got to the line way less and was less efficient around the rim.
Now post the stats or numbers that say Rose didn't get PnR, that he was better and more efficient around the rim, and that he was a more efficient scorer than Dragic.
I need something to corroborate these claims instead of highlight videos