Would you take Rose over Goran Dragic?

[Emoryal]

I mean, you can feel that Rondo is a better shooter than Steph Curry too



Rose shot 20% despite defenders sagging off his ass. His three point shot is more broken than Giannis

That matters because it's a huge reason Dragic is a much more efficient offensive player than Rose. The threat he poses from three forces teams to play him much tighter, makes his PnR significantly more dangerous, and matters when talking impact on the court.

Teams literally begged Rose to shoot from three and treat him like Rondo while Goran pretty much gets guarded from 30 feet in yet Dragic is on an entirely other planet as a shooter

He can't shoot he can't shoot but .9 3's extremely negligible

 

[KingB137]

So Dragic is a better and more efficient player around the rim, has a better in between game and is better in the paint in general, is literally on another planet as three point shooter but has a worse mid-range jumper?

I can agree to that.



I didn't say he's much better, I think he's better though. He pretty much outperformed Rose in every single statistical category you can think of with a similar level of talent, similar minutes, similar usage rate, and in the same conference.

Did Dragic not have a better year than Rose?

Are you autistic or something.? You just keep repeating the same thing after I pretty much admitted that he had better year and gave you the reasons as to why.

 

[idonttouchgrass]

ROSE, WADE, BRON & SHOOTERS

ITS OVER FOR THE LEAGUE.



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[CHICAGO]

So Dragic is a better and more efficient player around the rim, has a better in between game and is better in the paint in general, is literally on another planet as three point shooter but has a worse mid-range jumper?

I can agree to that.



I didn't say he's much better, I think he's better though. He pretty much outperformed Rose in every single statistical category you can think of with a similar level of talent, similar minutes, similar usage rate, and in the same conference.

Did Dragic not have a better year than Rose?

HES NOT BETTER AROUND THE RIM.

HE DOESNT GET CONTESTED IN THE PAINT AS MUCH AS ROSE.

ANYONE WHO HAS WATCHED THE 2
KNOWS DRAGIC ISNT CLOSE TO ROSE AS A FINISHER.

HE WAS ASSISTED ON 26% OF HIS BUCKETS AROUND THE RIM..
THOSE ARE WIDE OPEN LAYUPS
OFF PASSES.
LET ALONE THE ONES HE GOT OFF DRIVES.

ROSE IS ONE OF THE BEST FINISHERS IN TRAFFIC IN THE LEAGUE
AND WAS 4TH IN THE NBA
IN POINTS FROM DRIVES FROM THE PERIMETER
TO THE BASKET.




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[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

It's sad what injuries can do to a player. Even 5-6 years ago this question would of been bushed and "Woat of the year" worthy

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

I mean, you can feel that Rondo is a better shooter than Steph Curry too



Rose shot 20% despite defenders sagging off his ass. His three point shot is more broken than Giannis

That matters because it's a huge reason Dragic is a much more efficient offensive player than Rose. The threat he poses from three forces teams to play him much tighter, makes his PnR significantly more dangerous, and matters when talking impact on the court.

Teams literally begged Rose to shoot from three and treat him like Rondo while Goran pretty much gets guarded from 30 feet in yet Dragic is on an entirely other planet as a shooter

Yet here we are in a thread where someone felt a legitimate topic is whether or not Goran is better than washed up D Rose You can't make this shyt up

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Except Dragic is much more efficient, gets more free throws, is pretty much Curry compared to Rose when it comes to shooting, gets to the lane at will, and finishes in the paint as good as Rose, and is plenty clutch.

Did you watch the Heat play?

So Dragic puts up better numbers across the board, is a better shooter, averages more assists, played more games, and is much more efficient but you're ignoring that because...what?



Dragic shot 40% from 3 and is one of the best perimeter players, in the entire league, at finishing at the rim while being elite in the paint.



Did you WATCH Dragic last year? Dragic was out here dropping 30 point games and 16 point quarters after his eye was busted. Dragic isn't an elite late game option now and doesn't get to the basket with ease? Dragic is the most consistent offensive threat on the entire team.

Kill ALL of your debate points in one sentence brehs


U seem to keep ignoring the fact that Dragic IS THE DAMN #1 OPTION for a team that's primarily a P&R team. Rose is the 3 option as a PG in a Triangle system THAT DOES NOT UTILIZE THE PG POSITION. What was Ron Harper's numbers before joining the bullets, BJ Armstrong, John Paxon, Derek Fisher, Steve fukkin Nash, need I say more???

Yes, Dragic had SLIGHTLY better numbers than Rose HE IS THE #1 OPTION BRO, how do u fail to acknowledge this snh You already clowned yourself talking bout he has to worry about Whiteside taking possessions from him, so a Center bout to take possessions from the #1 option who just so happens to be a PG . U can't even hide your agenda smh, either that or you are trolling and don't care.

U know im a Heat fan also, your confidence in Dragon is cool, but the only reason u are going so hard for dude is because of your attachment to your team , you are not even going to acknowledge what I brought up about their roles being completely different, and that area (their roles) STRONGLY benefiting Dragic. You can't compare their roles AT ALL, BUT U CAN COMPARE THEIR NUMBERS WHICH ARE NECK AND NECK IN EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF 3pt percentage.


HOW IS ROSE WASHED AND PLAYING A 3RD OPTION BUT HIS NUMBERS ARE THE SAME AS DRAGIC?????? ARE U GINE ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR SKIP TO TGE NEXT POST CAUSE THIS COMPLETELY KILLS YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

 

[Draje]

HES NOT BETTER AROUND THE RIM.

HE DOESNT GET CONTESTED IN THE PAINT AS MUCH AS ROSE.

ANYONE WHO HAS WATCHED THE 2
KNOWS DRAGIC ISNT CLOSE TO ROSE AS A FINISHER.

HE WAS ASSISTED ON 26% OF HIS BUCKETS AROUND THE RIM..
THOSE ARE WIDE OPEN LAYUPS
OFF PASSES.
LET ALONE THE ONES HE GOT OFF DRIVES.

ROSE IS ONE OF THE BEST FINISHERS IN TRAFFIC IN THE LEAGUE
AND WAS 4TH IN THE NBA
IN POINTS FROM DRIVES FROM THE PERIMETER
TO THE BASKET.




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Rose gets contested more at the rim because he's a complete non-threat from 3 and defenders sag the fukk of of him.

You're trying to use context but it's also true that Rose probably drives more because he's useless off the ball because he can't shoot whereas Dragic is a great off the ball.

Rose gets 2 more points off of drives but that's his entire game whereas Dragic has larger offensive arsenal due to his ability to score from perimeter plus the Heat's entire offense is dedicated to the Drive and Kick which is why he has so many more assists.

But Dragic is elite at finishing at traffic and easily as good as Rose. Why else is he so much efficient in isolation and in PnR?

So Rose averaged 8.2 points off of drives and shot 51.2% and Dragic averaged 6.3 points off of drives while shooting 52.8% while averaging almost double his assists off of drives.

So how does this show that he's not in the same level or better as a finisher or in the paint?

 

[Draje]

Kill ALL of your debate points in one sentence brehs


U seem to keep ignoring the fact that Dragic IS THE DAMN #1 OPTION for a team that's primarily a P&R team. Rose is the 3 option as a PG in a Triangle system THAT DOES NOT UTILIZE THE PG POSITION. What was Ron Harper's numbers before joining the bullets, BJ Armstrong, John Paxon, Derek Fisher, Steve fukkin Nash, need I say more???

Yes, Dragic had SLIGHTLY better numbers than Rose HE IS THE #1 OPTION BRO, how do u fail to acknowledge this snh You already clowned yourself talking bout he has to worry about Whiteside taking possessions from him, so a Center bout to take possessions from the #1 option who just so happens to be a PG . U can't even hide your agenda smh, either that or you are trolling and don't care.

U know im a Heat fan also, your confidence in Dragon is cool, but the only reason u are going so hard for dude is because of your attachment to your team , you are not even going to acknowledge what I brought up about their roles being completely different, and that area (their roles) STRONGLY benefiting Dragic. You can't compare their roles AT ALL, BUT U CAN COMPARE THEIR NUMBERS WHICH ARE NECK AND NECK IN EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF 3pt percentage.


HOW IS ROSE WASHED AND PLAYING A 3RD OPTION BUT HIS NUMBERS ARE THE SAME AS DRAGIC?????? ARE U GINE ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR SKIP TO TGE NEXT POST CAUSE THIS COMPLETELY KILLS YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

You said Rose didn't get PnR called for him and I proved that untrue. Dragic also is more efficient in isolation and you said that wasn't true.

You keep talking options but Rose had almost the same damn usage rate as Dragic. So they had the rock in their hand almost the same amount.

Go show me the usage rate for those other point guards in the triangle so we can compare it to Rose's high 25% usage rate.

 

[Draje]

That's how I feel. Son ain't even a top 30 player for y'all to be so gassed but ok. I don't subscribe to the idea because the boy had a good year shooting from behind the arc that makes him a good shooter. I've seen the boy play and that's what I got. Sorry scrap

And yet you're obviously wrong. He's not too 30 but he's notably better than Rose across the entire board so what does that make Rose?

Dragic's worst shooting year from behind the line is so much better than Rose was last year that you might as well be comparing MKG to Durant

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

And yet you're obviously wrong. He's not too 30 but he's notably better than Rose across the entire board so what does that make Rose?

Dragic's worst shooting year from behind the line is so much better than Rose was last year that you might as well be comparing MKG to Durant

Here's the catch...I have no horse in this race lol D Rose has been cheated out of his prime and he is what he is. The issue I take with the assessment of Goran on here based on what I've seen doesn't match up. He is a good shooter and an even better driver along with being a serviceable distributor Is he a Curry or Dame from the perimeter? Nope Is he John Wall, Kyrie or Russ going to the basket? Nope Is he a floor general on the level of CP3? Naaaaaa Im just trying to figure it out because I'm lossttttttt

 

[DetroitEWarren]

And yet you're obviously wrong. He's not too 30 but he's notably better than Rose across the entire board so what does that make Rose?

Dragic's worst shooting year from behind the line is so much better than Rose was last year that you might as well be comparing MKG to Durant

Dawg



U gone keep making up these infant ass metaphors you got from a kids book? Nursery rhyming ass lil nikka. You really sound retarded as hell you fukkin computer program



"bu bu but, he wins in every statistical category mom"


"U might as well be comparing Corey Brewer to Klay Thompson mom"



get yo retarded ass the fukk up outta here, I don't rock with special Ed kids from the LD hallway, we woulda beat yo ass

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Imma be hella pissed if this nikka drose start knocking threes down this season. But anyway I like dragic too but you kinda have to pick him because of the 3pt and he doesn’t have an acl and meniscus tears.

 

[feelosofer]

Dragic is more efficient and he can lead the floor which is crucial to being a good point guard.

 

[JYoung24]

Rose but yall have to have with this false narrative that melo is a ballstopper hes not