WOW. Adele projected to sell 1.3M-1.8M Copies first Week!

[IllmaticDelta]

Can you fukking stop name dropping Young Thug?


Seriously fukking stop.....speaking as if everyone should support his garbage. Not everyone is from the south and likes that bullshyt music so please stfu about him.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

props to her for making it to superstar status without having to sell sex & masking it as 'taking ownership of sexuality'

 

[Frankie Wallace]

You already lost. You ever listen to Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Dolly Parton, Lefty Frizzelle?? Cause if you have listened to country like I have you'd know that countries not all about Friday nights beer and trucks. You lost as soon as you downplayed country. Yeah a lot of the new stuff and hits do talk about what you have mentioned but same thing with hip hop. The hits in hip hop talk about money cars clothes and hoes but of course that's not all what hip hop is, same thing with country. Take your L sir.

Cacs

 

[kingjones29]

Didn't Nsync once open with 2.4mill in first week?!!

But those numbers for Adele in today's market is crazy as fukk...it helps when artists take a break and step back like she does rather than release mediocre music every dann year

good point

 

[IllmaticDelta]

CDs and Downloads are $10 sometimes even less. And there are literally millions of black American future fans. Snoop's Doggstyle did about 7 million copies in The US alone at like $15-$20 dollars a pop; So are you meaning to tell me black people accounted for less than a million of those sales? If Future going platinum solely from the black dollar is really that far fetched and if so someone needs to inform Nike that the mass purchases of $300-$400 sneakers from black customers With Every Single Release must be imaginary.

yes....even the people who did early gangsta rap know who was really buying it

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[RichYung]

Man you gotta be realistic about it though. You got 41 million black people in America ranging from 0 to 100+ years old. The only black people that are gonna cop young thugs music are between 12 - 28 which is what? Something like 20% of 41 million? Which is around 8 million?

Honestly I think I'm being generous about young thugs ceiling here (our any rapper for that matter). The odds are against us

It doesn't have to be Adele/Swift numbers. We know the science on that. But more support is necessary... BOTTOMLINE

 

[Still FloW]

would the hype be the same if she was black tho

not knocking her off or anything, but come on.. lets be real now..

anyways i have both her albums and its amazing to see a UK artist globally taking over thatss my overweight british semi-pawg

 

[duckbutta]

props for what? the machine was already made and laid for her..marketing is what doing it the most.
she took a break at the right time and now coming back even a better time.

You fukking kidding right?

Nobody wanted anything to do with this chick when she came out

Every record label looking for the next rail thin blonde white chick to get up their and dance and lip sync and shake her ass...

And her comes this fat white chick who doesn't do anything but get on stage and sing...no dancing...no skimpy outfit...no endorsements...no commercials...just her...her ability to write a song and sing a song...

One of the few musicians of the last decade who got by on their pure talent...not some fukking auto tune dress like a slut twerking i weight 90 pounds and 60 of it is plastic...

shyt I remember when 21 really blow up and all these "uh oh Adele is really famous and known now she gonna have to lose weight cause she to fat to be this successful" shyt was popping in the media

I remember going to one of her 21 concerts...she just fukking stood up their and sang...stood in the same fukking spot

Has Beyonce ever done a concert where the star of it wasn't her camel toe ?

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

I don't understand that lady's hype. I don't like Adele's music, I think it's boring. She is also overweight, maybe that's another reason why white people/mainsteam supports her, because she doesn't look like the normal pop star. Just like they support gays.

I think most people only like her because other people like her.

Her hype is for a white girl she has a 'powerful' voice.

Atleast with Amy her subject matter was interesting. The only females I know who fukk with Adele are white chicks...they find her incredible.

Also I notice white people tend to overpraise white female singers who don't do the typical pop stuff. Boring ass Norah Jones got a ton a critical praise when she first dropped too.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Amazing read. Tina Marie's career was so rare. Who was the last White artist to have an exclusively Black fan base keep their career afloat? Who was the last White artist to get major play on Urban Radio while being very little known and getting no play on pop radio?

I'd have to think a little more to remember the last white artist to fit what you're asking but generally,there are many known white musicians who did. Bobby Caldwell is one that I can think of off the top of my head.




The White Lie That Broke Bobby Caldwell on Black Radio

Jered Stuffco explains how an ambiguous album cover helped launch an R&B singer’s career.

Old myths have a way of sticking around. Especially the one about Bobby Caldwell being black. It’s been 37 years since Caldwell broke through with the soul classic “What You Won’t Do For Love,” and yet, some are still shocked when they find out the singer is white. “Quite honestly, I never thought I sounded black,” says Caldwell. “I thought I sounded like a white guy that was influenced by R&B music. But people would swear up and down I was black. Huge amounts of money were lost in bets.” While the myth carries on today, the truth of how it all got started is a story rooted in the politics of ’70s American radio and the shrewd business practices of a record boss.

Thanks to Caldwell’s jazzy tunes and his effortlessly soulful vocals, he was given free rein in the studio, and he spent ten months recording the songs for his now-classic, self-titled debut. But when Stone – a notoriously shrewd businessman – heard the final mixes, he wasn’t satisfied they had a hit. Caldwell was sent back into the studio, and he quickly wrote and recorded “What You Won’t Do For Love,” a slice of slinky smooth R&B based on a jazzy, four-chord progression.


Stone loved it. The label had their lead single, but there was still a glitch: Caldwell’s image. “We did a shoot for the album cover, and my hair was down to my shoulders and (the shoot) was done on the beach. And for them, I guess they got skittish with going to black radio with somebody who was whiter than a loaf of bread,” says Caldwell.

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Indeed, TK’s bread was buttered on black radio. Jo Maeder, a radio DJ at Miami’s Y-100 at the time, said TK used a domino style of promotion to get their records into the mainstream. “R&B radio was all over TK Records, it was their strongest base,” says Maeder. Without support from black radio, TK worried the record would be a flop.


Determined, Caldwell took matters into his own hands and mocked up his own album cover – an evocative image of a mysterious man sitting on a park bench. “It was me who came up with the idea of a silhouette, which I actually drew, based on a photo that had been taken,” he says. “I had a piece of acetate. There was a photo of me on a bench, I traced the photograph and filled it all in to make it silhouette. Everyone just loved it – problem solved and we were able to make the release in time.”


Soon after its release, with his song gaining traction in the pop charts, Caldwell was invited by Natalie Cole to open up her tour of U.S. auditoriums. “It’s the very first night in Cleveland, at an amphitheater. We’re talking about 7,000 brothers and sisters, and I was the only cracker there,” says Caldwell. “And everyone is coming to hear ‘soul brother’ Bobby Caldwell. I walked out on stage and you could hear a pin drop, just a total hush came over the crowd. It was like, ‘What the fukk is this!?’” Caldwell gulped and his band launched into their first song. “I stayed and delivered, after about ten minutes, I had them in my pocket. That was the night I became a man, I’ll tell ya.”


The song eventually peaked inside the top 10 on the Billboard Pop Chart, but it really struck a chord with black audiences. “It was such an anthem and still is, and so embraced by the black community and R&B radio,” says Caldwell. “And even after they found out I was white, it wasn’t like, ‘We’ve been betrayed.’ They took the idea that music has no color.” American Urban Radio Networks staffer Ty Miller, who has spun many Caldwell tracks over his career as a DJ on black radio through the 1980s, echoed that sentiment. “You think about it now, soul has no color. He sounded like a typical, R&B soul singer,” says Miller. “If you were in the industry like me, you knew he was white, however, it was the sound more so than the color. The phrasing, the instrumentation; it lent itself to being played on black radio and that’s why a lot of people liked it.”


DJ Spinna recalled that his own introduction to Caldwell came from famed New York DJ Frankie Crocker, who broke many new soul cuts on WBLS, including “What You Won’t Do For Love.” “People were bugging when they discovered he was white as well,” said Spinna in an interview with the Soulisms Official Blog. “The funny thing is, the album with that track ‘What You Won’t Do For Love’ probably didn’t have his face on the cover for that same reason, but that’s a big tune. Still gets into my soul when I hear it.” (According to legend, Crocker himself wasn’t aware of Caldwell’s race, and once he found out, he announced it over the radio as a pseudo news bulletin.)


After TK went bankrupt in 1981, Caldwell continued to release music and also moved into writing pop hits for others, such as Chicago and Boz Scaggs. The song that broke him has been sampled, covered and remade dozens of times, while other cuts in Caldwell’s discography have also proved fruitful for beatmakers. In Japan, Caldwell has enjoyed enduring success and has earned the nickname “Mr. AOR.” But at home, his audience remains mostly black.


These days, Caldwell is both confused about his enduring appeal and grateful. “Well y’know, I don’t know how I escaped this, it certainly wasn’t intentionally that I was able to have the success, to be embraced by black radio. But somehow, they all loved this cracker with the blonde hair, and I just don’t know what I did!” Caldwell adds that TK’s scheme turned out to be a blessing, because it not only broadened his audience, but gave him an incredibly loyal fan base. “All I know is, I look out in the audience today, and I have a demographic that’s mind-boggling.”

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That's something you rarely see. And I never knew Madonna, Boy George, and George Michael, all started off with popularity in the urban markets before gaining popularity in the pop markets. I didn't know they were crossover acts.

Yup, they all started out by doing more R&B/Urban based music, so they had black followings. Madonna jacked alot from the Urban NYC club scene.

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also where she picked up the vouguing

 

[martin payne]

culture vulture

 

[onelastdeath]

Love that she's taking the time to make great music, instead of making disposable rap songs that you can't grow to.

 

[onelastdeath]

honestly how many blacks will buy her album but won't touch a Jill Scott album.

She's a better singer/Artist than Jill Scott though. That's just a fact. They're both great, but Adele is better.

 

[Harry B]

Britney did 1.32m in 2000 in an era where EVERYONE bought music. Taylor doing 1.29m in 2014 where NOONE bought music is a wild achievement. That to me is just as impressive, if not more than Britney's shyt.

Adele's jawn doing 11,000,000 though fukking mythical numbers. That new single did a hunnid milli on Vevo in seven days

Information travels faster, that's why 1st week #s are still good.
There's albums that moved like 15-20 million that couldn't even do Meek Mill first week #s back in the 70s.

 

[Nobodyknows]

Love that she's taking the time to make great music, instead of making disposable rap songs that you can't grow to.

Really breh? I ALWAYS pictured her spitting major bars. I heard she was gon go at Taylor swift or some shyt