WTF is Kathleen Kennedy smoking? (claims no source material for good movies) EDIT: KK retiring EOY 2025

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How the fukk the kill the SW expanded universe then she says movies are hard to make cause there's no source material...

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Making A STAR WARS Film Is Difficult Due To A Lack Of Comics And Novels Says Lucasfilm President
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"There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels," replies Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy when asked about the difficulty of making a Star Wars movie.
Mark Julian | 11/20/2019
Filed Under: "Star Wars" Source: RollingStone
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Almost from the moment of its announcement, longtime Star Wars fans have been decrying the decision by Lucasfilm and Disney to discard the stories of the Expanded Universe- the books and comics from the '80s and '90s that told stories from the Star Wars universe set after the events of The Return of the Jedi.

You can read the original 2014 announcement by CLICKING HERE. The official statement reads, "In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe."


Fast forward to 2019 and most Star Wars fans would agree that they would have rather seen the Expanded Universe adapted for film instead of the tale that's unfolded so far in The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. While it's possible that J.J. Abrams' The Rise of Skywalker could rectify a lot of the perceived missteps, the damage to the brand will remain and is a large factor in why Star Wars movies are going on hiatus, per Disney co-chairman Bob Iger.

Speaking to Rolling Stone, Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy touched on the difficulties that have been encountered thus far while making Episode VII and VIII and her answer will likely make the Star Wars fandom highly irritable.

"Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be. We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does. You start by talking to filmmakers who you think exhibit the sensibilities that you’re looking for."

Kennedy went on to add that the development process starts with carefully considering a select number of filmmakers who can deliver on certain sensibilities that Lucasfilm is looking for. From there, it's about navigating the reality that what you may have planned to do might not "work out exactly the way you want."
 

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Even George, one of her good hollywood friends, thought the EU was basically fan fiction. She probably thinks something similar. Like there's no gift wrapped sequel trilogy novel series that's easily adaptable. I refuse to believe she doesn't know the EU existed or Lords of the sith isn't a thing. But the optics are horrendous.
 

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Even George, one of her good hollywood friends, thought the EU was basically fan fiction. She probably thinks something similar. Like there's no gift wrapped sequel trilogy novel series that's easily adaptable. I refuse to believe she doesn't know the EU existed or Lords of the sith isn't a thing. But the optics are horrendous.
The Thrawn trilogy is a best seller, even the new one Timohty Zahn just wrote called Thrawn is a best seller.
 

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Even George, one of her good hollywood friends, thought the EU was basically fan fiction. She probably thinks something similar. Like there's no gift wrapped sequel trilogy novel series that's easily adaptable. I refuse to believe she doesn't know the EU existed or Lords of the sith isn't a thing. But the optics are horrendous.

fan fiction or not.. its still a source to draw from. saying there is absolutely nothing to draw from. we're going from scratch is BS. even she said they refused to use EU

and i thought George sanctioned a few of them
 
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That's not what's she's saying at all. Good grief, you dudes need to slow down and actually comprehend things. It would also help to read original articles instead of interpretations by shytty websites.

RS: Jurassic World director Colin Trevorrow was slated to write and direct Episode IX before you brought J.J. Abrams back in. Is this final entry in the trilogy a particularly hard nut to crack?

KK: Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be. We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does. You start by talking to filmmakers who you think exhibit the sensibilities that you’re looking for. And I would argue that the list is very small — people who really do have the sensibilities about these kind of movies, and then the experience and the ability to handle how enormous a job these movies are. So we try to be as thoughtful as we possibly can about making those choices. I would also argue that sometimes people get involved in the normal development process, and then they realize, “Oh, my God, this is so much more than I ever imagined.” So it’s pretty common that when you’re working on movies, you’re not making choices and decisions that necessarily work out exactly the way you want from the get-go. It’s been an evolving process with lots of people and lots of opinions, and then you try to shape something into what it eventually becomes. So I feel really fortunate that I’ve worked with so many great people that have been absolutely committed, J.J. being one of them. He’s a huge fan, incredibly passionate about Star Wars, and has been from the moment he and I sat down and started talking about this. And the more he got involved, the more excited he became. So I think if you asked him today, he probably wishes he’d been in a situation where he could have done all three — but as I said, these are huge projects. So it’s very difficult unless there’s three or four years in between. It’s not really physically possible.

This is not a cry about a lack of source material to lift from, but about the pressures in the process involved in developing an original story.
 

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The Thrawn trilogy is a best seller, even the new one Timohty Zahn just wrote called Thrawn is a best seller.
Yeah, but again, gift wrapped, Harrison Ford didn't want to play Han Solo anymore, Hamill is 68, how do you expect them to do even half the stuff that's in Heir to the empire or Dark force rising. Even then there's really only one lightsaber battle and that's at the end of The Last Command.

In terms of spinoff films or trilogies like using George's Whills sequel trilogy outline, Darth Bane trilogy, Rogue Squadron, New Sith wars, Yuuzhan Vong, black fleet crisis, New Jedi Order, Knights of the old republic sure.

But, there are times when adapting is far harder than creating a new screenplay.

Although I suppose they could bring in Zahn to the writers room.

I'm not defending her, the optics are horrible. She continues to look like she doesn't know anything about Star Wars. She doesn't need to eat, sleep and breath Star Wars, but she should at least know when to step back and leave the creatives to their business.
 

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That's not what's she's saying at all. Good grief, you dudes need to slow down and actually comprehend things. It would also help to read original articles instead of interpretations by shytty websites.



This is not a cry about a lack of source material to lift from, but about the pressures in the process involved in developing an original story.

thats where her problem is... those pressure are self imposed. there is source stuff to use . even as an influence there is stuff to use. i'm sure they couldve found a few stories to pick ideas from and still have a fresh story for eps 7-9

Also having 3 writers / directors is OK but at least have a 3 film outline.... each writer was starting from scratch.. how the hell can they tell one story if theres no outline
 

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fan fiction or not.. its still a source to draw from. saying there is absolutely nothing to draw from. we're going from scratch is BS. even she said they refused to use EU

and i thought George sanctioned a few of them
Again, I said none of them were gift wrapped in the same way Infinity Gauntlet or COIE was.


and i thought George sanctioned a few of them
Nah, George just vetoed some of the stuff he didn't like or gave a couple suggestions here and there. Remember, he had tiers of canon, and the only thing he cared about where the films and Clone Wars.
 

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Again, I said none of them were gift wrapped in the same way Infinity Gauntlet or COIE was.



Nah, George just vetoed some of the stuff he didn't like or gave a couple suggestions here and there. Remember, he had tiers of canon, and the only thing he cared about where the films and Clone Wars.

i understand its not gift wrapped. but saying there's nothing to draw from is untrue.
 
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