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Rayzah

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It sounds crazy but hear me out champ.

I had a buddy of mine whom worked with the suites at many WWE events and being he accommodated Vince, Shane, Steph, and the staff very well. Vince would literally give him free tickets to shows and you would also get a chance to meet the wrestlers, go backstage, take photos and all. He invited me on many occasions to meet everyone

He hooked me and two of my partners up for tickets to go to No Mercy and we had a blast.

It's totally different machine today.

Today you're not getting any of that shyt from TKO or Nick Khan

These corporate snobs don't want you near any talent or even talking to the exec or nothing. You either pay the VIP or nothing.

Knowing how Cokeboy works , He only sold that shyt as long as he wanted to moreso for latter or worse micromanage shyt like before. I personally wouldn't let him touch nothing in creative because he's responsible for bad TV but he knew how to get those deals even in his corpse state.

Every deal Cokeboy did was still affordable to his base...

The WWE Network 9.99
The Smackdown deals Standard cable
The Raw deals for USA throughout his whole tenure
And Spike

Cokeboy was literally forced out so we don't know how much of a impact or influence he could have had had he didn't get kicked out the whip.

TKO, Papa H and Nick Khan on the other hand are trying to appeal to celebrities, streamers , influencers, Marks like Brad Piff whom defend the WWE more than his own family and people whom are making 500k and up.

This the new America we in
TikTok attention span and so much wrestling content got dudes minds fried

Dudes be forgetting feuds and moments that happened 5 months ago and try to rewrite shyt like we weren’t there

So I could only imagine some posters heart grow for Vince as if it were all daises
Vince was at an all time low creatively and was petty as hell. shyt was not good when he was in charge
We get spoiled so fast and forget no matter how bland or stale the product is it’s still better than 2018-2022 before Vince got kicked out. These dudes are overreacting
WWE is just trying to take advantage of their popularity and they are embracing the celebrities that rock with them. What would you rather have the celebrity guest host era or celebrities actually trining to wrestle and work angles for a few months?
 

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Vince was at an all time low creatively and was petty as hell. shyt was not good when he was in charge
We get spoiled so fast and forget no matter how bland or stale the product is it’s still better than 2018-2022 before Vince got kicked out. These dudes are overreacting
WWE is just trying to take advantage of their popularity and they are embracing the celebrities that rock with them. What would you rather have the celebrity guest host era or celebrities actually trining to wrestle and work angles for a few months?

I'd rather watch the wrestlers actually wrestle and not have celebrities in major angles every quarter

That said, you're right, WWE is not bad, just boring as fukk

The thing is, which I said months ago, boring can sometimes be worse than bad, that's where the revisionist history with Vince, as batshyt crazy as it may sound, comes in at times.
 

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There's two truths being misconstrued against eachother here when both are valid :

- This TKO iteration of WWE absolutely wants to squeeze every last cent out and isn't shy about it, which is why everything surrounding the talent feels more and more soulless. That's part of the process of turning a profit after a 9.3B acquisition, Vince never felt the need to do that. Like we've spoken about before, when you go from the steroid trial fallout and filming RAW in highschool gyms to the heights of the Attitude Era, everything feels like house money financially

- Vince was 10 toes deep into his out of touch phase during the Bryan WM and that was in 2014. He only became more senile in his last years, the product feels flat right now and the roster underutilized and it's still running laps around the scatter-brained incoherent nonsense Vince was doing before he was ousted
 

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There's two truths being misconstrued against eachother here when both are valid :

- This TKO iteration of WWE absolutely wants to squeeze every last cent out and isn't shy about it, which is why everything surrounding the talent feels more and more soulless. That's part of the process of turning a profit after a 9.3B acquisition, Vince never felt the need to do that. Like we've spoken about before, when you go from the steroid trial fallout and filming RAW in highschool gyms to the heights of the Attitude Era, everything feels like house money financially

- Vince was 10 toes deep into his out of touch phase during the Bryan WM and that was in 2014. He only became more senile in his last years, the product feels flat right now and the roster underutilized and it's still running laps around the scatter-brained incoherent nonsense Vince was doing before he was ousted

Yep! The commercialization of the product being shove down our throats is the glaring negative.
 

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This and the New Orleans WM change up is showing me TKO is sloppy and money hungry. They move like Trump

Honestly, I don’t get why fans outside of New Orleans even care that WrestleMania got moved to Vegas. Maybe they announced NO too soon, maybe something came up and the city couldn’t host — either way, it really doesn’t affect the rest of us.

Them being money-hungry and the product feeling stagnant right now are two separate things. The shows get magnified because WWE is all over major outlets with these big business deals, but that doesn’t automatically mean the in-ring product is bad — it just feels more under the microscope at a time when there isn’t a hot storyline carrying everything.

With Vince, it was PG everything, promos written like they were for kids, no blood, no real weapons outside of a kendo stick, a terrible women’s division, and constant disrespect to new call-ups (not just the Black ones either). On top of that, you had dumb name changes and a refusal to even acknowledge past history — all while stripping away any edge like cussing or intensity.

Yeah, maybe HHH is coasting a little right now, but the product is still miles better than what Vince was giving us. He’s rebuilt the women’s division, given call-ups a real shot, and brought back some grit and logic that was missing before. There’s plenty of room for criticism, but acting like it’s just “profit over product” ignores how far things have come since Vince stepped away
 
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Honestly, I don’t get why fans outside of New Orleans even care that WrestleMania got moved to Vegas. Maybe they announced NO too soon, maybe something came up and the city couldn’t host — either way, it really doesn’t affect the rest of us.

Them being money-hungry and the product feeling stagnant right now are two separate things. The shows get magnified because WWE is all over major outlets with these big business deals, but that doesn’t automatically mean the in-ring product is bad — it just feels more under the microscope at a time when there isn’t a hot storyline carrying everything.

With Vince, it was PG everything, promos written like they were for kids, no blood, no real weapons outside of a kendo stick, a terrible women’s division, and constant disrespect to new call-ups (not just the Black ones either). On top of that, you had dumb name changes and a refusal to even acknowledge past history — all while stripping away any edge like cussing or intensity.

Yeah, maybe HHH is coasting a little right now, but the product is still miles better than what Vince was giving us. He’s rebuilt the women’s division, given call-ups a real shot, and brought back some grit and logic that was missing before. There’s plenty of room for criticism, but acting like it’s just “profit over product” ignores how far things have come since Vince stepped away
So you rather something boring and bland like Tiffany vs Jade than people like Bobby Lashley, Big E feeding over the title? The Hurt Business being over? Bianca Belair dominating the WD? Street Prophets actually being over? Smh
 

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So you rather something boring and bland like Tiffany vs Jade than people like Bobby Lashley, Big E feeding over the title? The Hurt Business being over? Bianca Belair dominating the WD? Street Prophets actually being over? Smh
Lashely wasn’t being used right under Vince remember them breaking up the hurt business too soon and having him drop the title ?
Big E broke his nexk
Y’all were complaining about Bianca becoming super Cena and said she needed to drop the title. The feud with her and jade and Naomi was very interesting

And stop acting like y’all didn’t like Tiffy time in NXT and when she first got called up. I be on this board I remember how y’all were hyping her up.
And for the last time Jade is a top star in this company. Y’all have seen 1000000000 documentaries and interviews about the wrestlers saying it’s not about the title it’s about being a top star. I’m beginning to think y’all are retarded
 
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Lashely wasn’t being used right under Vince remember them breaking up the hurt business too soon and having him drop the title ?
Big E broke his nexk
Y’all were complaining about Bianca becoming super Cena and said she needed to drop the title. The feud with her and jade and Naomi was very interesting

And stop acting like y’all didn’t like Tiffy time in NXT and when she first got called up. I be on this board I remember how y’all were hyping her up.
And for the last time Jade is a top star in this company. Y’all have seen 1000000000 documentaries and interviews about the wrestlers saying it’s not about the title it’s about being a top star. I’m beginning to think y’all are retarded
All this is vomit and bullshht you saying amd most of it is not even true. Lmao at Jade being at the top when she still green smdh. Sound like a a true Fed tribalist foh
 

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So you rather something boring and bland like Tiffany vs Jade than people like Bobby Lashley, Big E feeding over the title? The Hurt Business being over? Bianca Belair dominating the WD? Street Prophets actually being over? Smh

All this is vomit and bullshht you saying amd most of it is not even true. Lmao at Jade being at the top when she still green smdh. Sound like a a true Fed tribalist foh
Got a weird obsession with Lashley:dame:

The way you hate Jade is sus too :dame:
 

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Lashely wasn’t being used right under Vince remember them breaking up the hurt business too soon and having him drop the title ?
Big E broke his nexk
Y’all were complaining about Bianca becoming super Cena and said she needed to drop the title. The feud with her and jade and Naomi was very interesting

And stop acting like y’all didn’t like Tiffy time in NXT and when she first got called up. I be on this board I remember how y’all were hyping her up.
And for the last time Jade is a top star in this company. Y’all have seen 1000000000 documentaries and interviews about the wrestlers saying it’s not about the title it’s about being a top star. I’m beginning to think y’all are retarded
They are

I’m glad you brought up that tiffy shyt

She was liked by a majority of wwe watchers in tsc when she first got on the main roster, and she had all the momentum too. And by the time she got to Jade she’s considered a failed experiment.

Just like the term buried dudes really don’t know when a wrestler is a success or failure. And I tried pointing this out and dudes was like

“Imagine doing all this for Tiffany” :dead:

Dudes here base everything on if they’re favorites are winning and if the people they dislike aren’t, which is fair but arguments be all in delusions and never really a reflection of what’s happening.
 
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